IDF forces are terrorists and murderers and nothing more

[para-dice]

DO NOT COMPARE BUSH TO NAZI GERMANY EVER! BUSH IS NOT LIKE THAT AND WILL NEVER BE LIKE THAT! BUSH DOES NOT LIE. HE HAS SCREWED ALOT OF THINGS UP, BUT HE IS NO LIAR! DO NOT WRITE IDIOTIC POSTS LIKE THAT AGAIN!

You are being sarcastic right? Please tell me you are.

Gee I just did a Yahoo search on "Bush is a liar"
The second hit was:

Biography of President George W. Bush
w*w.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html

rolf!

 

[gc]

DO NOT COMPARE BUSH TO NAZI GERMANY EVER! BUSH IS NOT LIKE THAT AND WILL NEVER BE LIKE THAT! BUSH DOES NOT LIE. HE HAS SCREWED ALOT OF THINGS UP, BUT HE IS NO LIAR! DO NOT WRITE IDIOTIC POSTS LIKE THAT AGAIN!

Bush lies all the time...but that doesn't mean we should compare the U.S. to nazi germany.

 

[ckeo]

And heres Hezbollah's squeaky clean record, please feel free to justify each one...I'm sure someone will..


1982: Israel invades Lebanon to drive out the PLO’s terrorist army, which had frequently attacked Israel from its informal "state-within-a-state" in southern Lebanon. Hezbollah, a Shiite group inspired by the teachings and revolution of Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini, is created with the assistance of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. The group is called Hezbollah–or "party of God"– after initially taking responsibility for attacks under the name "Islamic Jihad." (Not to be confused with the Palestinian terror organization Islamic Jihad.)

July 19, 1982: The president of the American University in Beirut, Davis S. Dodge, is kidnapped. Hezbollah is believed to be behind this and most of the other 30 Westerners kidnapped over the next ten years.

April 18, 1983: Hezbollah attacks the U.S. embassy in Beirut with a car bomb, killing 63 people, 17 of whom were American citizens.

Oct. 23, 1983: The group attacks U.S. Marine barracks with a truck bomb, killing 241 American military personnel stationed in Beirut as part of a peace-keeping force. A separate attack against the French military compound in Beirut kills 58.

Sept. 20, 1984: The group attacks the U.S. embassy annex in Beirut with a car bomb, killing 2 Americans and 22 others.

March 16, 1984: William F. Buckley, a CIA operative working at the U.S. embassy in Beirut, is kidnapped and later murdered.

April 12, 1984: Hezbollah attacks a restaurant near the U.S. Air Force Base in Torrejon, Spain. The bombing kills eighteen U.S. servicemen and injures 83 people.

Dec. 4, 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack a Kuwait Airlines plane. Four passengers are murdered, including two Americans.

Feb. 16, 1985: Hezbollah publicizes its manifesto. It notes that the group's struggle will continue until Israel is destroyed and rejects any cease-fire or peace treaty with Israel. The document also attacks the U.S. and France.

June 14, 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA flight 847. The hijackers severely beat Passenger Robert Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver, before killing him and dumping his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport. Other passengers are held as hostages before being released on June 30.

Dec. 31, 1986: Under the alias Organization of the Oppressed on Earth, Hezbollah announces it had kidnapped and murdered three Lebanese Jews. The organization previously had taken responsibility for killing four other Jews since 1984.

Feb. 17, 1988: The group kidnaps Col. William Higgins, a U.S. Marine serving with a United Nations truce monitoring group in Lebanon, and later murders him.

Oct. 22, 1989: Members of the dissolved Lebanese parliament ratify the Taif Agreement. Although the agreement calls for the "disbanding of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias," Hezbollah remains active.

Feb. 16, 1992: Sayyad Hassan Nasrallah takes over Hezbollah after Israel kills the group’s leader, Abbas Musawi.

March 17, 1992: With the help of Iranian intelligence, Hezbollah bombs the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, killing 29 and injuring over 200.

July 18, 1994: Hezbollah bombs the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires–again with Iranian help–killing 86 and injuring over 200.


Nov. 28, 1995: Hezbollah bombards towns in northern Israel with volleys of Katyusha rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.

March 30, 1996: Hezbollah fires 28 Katyusha rockets into northern Israeli towns. A week later, the group fires 16 rockets, injuring 36 Israelis. Israel responds with a major offensive, known as the "Grapes of Wrath" operation, to stop Hezbollah rocket fire.

Aug. 19, 1997: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel with dozens of rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.

October 1997: The United States lists Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

Dec. 28, 1998: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel with dozens of rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.
May 17, 1999: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel with dozens of rockets in one of the group's numerous attacks on Israeli civilians.



June 24, 1999: Hezbollah opens fire on northern Israel, killing 2.

May 23, 2000: Israel withdraws all troops from Lebanon after 18 years patrolling the "security zone," a strip of land in the south of the country. The security zone was set up to prevent attacks on northern Israel.

June 2000: United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan certifies Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon. Shortly thereafter, the U.N. Security Council endorses Annan’s report. Hezbollah nonetheless alleges Israel occupies Lebanon, claiming the small Shebba Farms area Israel captured from Syria during the 1967 war as Lebanese territory.

Oct. 7, 2000: Hezbollah attacks an Israel military post and raids Israel, kidnapping three Israeli soldiers. The soldiers are later assumed dead. In mid-October, Hezbollah leader Nasrallah announces the group has also kidnapped an Israeli businessman. In 2004, Israel frees over 400 Arab prisoners in exchange for the business man and the bodies of the three soldiers.


March 1, 2001: The British government adds Hezbollah’s "military wing" to its list of outlawed terrorist organizations.

April 9, 2002: Hezbollah launches Katyushas into northern Israeli town. This assault comes amidst almost daily Hezbollah attacks against Israeli troops in Shebba farms.

Dec. 11, 2002: Canada lists Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. Huh?

Aug. 10, 2003: Hezbollah shells kills 16-year-old Israeli boy, wound others.

June 5, 2003: Australia lists Hezbollah’s "military wing" as a terrorist organization.

Sept. 2, 2004: United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 calls for "the disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias," a reference to Hezbollah.


December 2004: Both the United States and France ban Hezbollah’s satellite television network, Al Manar. A U.S. State Department spokesman notes the channel "preaches violence and hatred."

March 10, 2005: The European Parliament overwhelmingly passes a resolution stating: "Parliament considers that clear evidence exists of terrorist activities by Hezbollah. The (EU) Council should take all necessary steps to curtail them." The European Union nonetheless refrains from placing the group on its list of terror organizations.

July 12, 2006: Hezbollah attacks Israel with Katyushas, crosses the border and kidnaps two Israeli soldiers. Three Israeli soldiers are killed in the initial attack. Five more soldiers are killed as Israel launches operation to rescue the soldiers and push Hezbollah from its border. Hezbollah launches rockets into towns across northern Israel

ehhh.... if you actually had the intelligence to research those facts you would quickly find that most so called terrorist attacks by hezbollah are actually alleged or suspected.

And im sure most of them were worded that way before you edited them.

 

[Mogz]

RE: IDF forces are terror

1. ckeo, I don't think it's fair that you slyly call thomaska a liar. I've read many of his posts and nothing as ever made me think we purposely alters facts for arguments sake. I would like to point out that he DOES bring up many valid points in that post, you may want to look in to them before you outright damn them as lies or fabrications.

DO NOT COMPARE BUSH TO NAZI GERMANY EVER! BUSH IS NOT LIKE THAT AND WILL NEVER BE LIKE THAT! BUSH DOES NOT LIE. HE HAS SCREWED ALOT OF THINGS UP, BUT HE IS NO LIAR! DO NOT WRITE IDIOTIC POSTS LIKE THAT AGAIN!

I also would like to agree with Jon on this one. I've watched George Bush closely since his first election (I wanted him to win as a matter of fact), and while he's messed up, launched two wars, and been an utter dick to Canada, nothing i've personally seen has made me think of him as a liar. Does he lie? Without a doubt, he's a politician. Does he make a habit of it? I doubt it. I don't want Bush in office because I think he's got tunnel vision, not because I question his honesty and/or integrity.

 

[cortex]

Actually GW Bush is a liar. These comparisons of Bush to Hitler are however unfair as GW Bush is much worse than the latter.

 

[gopher]

~~ Hitler is worse ~~


http://www.sullivan.net/images/Bush-Hitler.gif


The parallels between the two cannot be denied. Like his predecessor who was so heavily financed by his grandfather as we have seen on this forum through past posted links, he has engaged in a campaign of endless lies and has damaged our country. This is treason and there is no denying of it.

 

[Logic 7]

RE: IDF forces are terror

Scott Ritter, a former United Nations weapons inspector, has compared the invasion of Iraq to Hitler's invasion of Poland.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...07.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/05/07/ixnewstop.html

 

[Just the Facts]

Abducting military personel may be a valid military objective, but it is also an act of war.

Exactly. And if it's war, it's war. You don't fight a war to be proportionate, you fight to win. Period. No sane person can expect any army to let up because it's winning.

 

[Mogz]

Abducting military personel may be a valid military objective, but it is also an act of war.

Exactly. And if it's war, it's war. You don't fight a war to be proportionate, you fight to win. Period. No sane person can expect any army to let up because it's winning.

Actually the Germans did it on the Russian front in the early weeks of the War....but look how that turned out.....

 

[gopher]

... God punishes. As Israel is clearly the aggressor it will be interesting to see how He deals with its evil.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Re: RE: IDF forces are terrorists and murderers and nothing

... God punishes. As Israel is clearly the aggressor it will be interesting to see how He deals with its evil.

Right.... I suppose 9-11 & the New Orleans flooding were punishment from God as well?

 

[iARTthere4iam]

I wonder how long a proportional war would last. In any case it doesn't sound like a recipie for strategic success.

 

[para-dice]

Karma.

 

[#juan]

Colpy wrote:
Abducting military personel may be a valid military objective, but it is also an act of war.

Does Hezzbollah have the right to act for Lebanon? Lebanese civilians are who is suffering most from this retaliation. Lebanon does not have the forces to control Hezbollah and Israel knows it. That is why it should have been a multinational force rather than Israel. Hezbollah is at fault, but so is Israel. Not that it matters now.

 

[cortex]

Re: RE: IDF forces are terrorists and murderers and nothing

... God punishes. As Israel is clearly the aggressor it will be interesting to see how He deals with its evil.

God is now on the phone to the Iranians --he isnt sure but he is considering changing his definition of who the chosen people should be--and he wants to know--by the way how the centrifuges are working.