Hugo Chavez, the Richard and Judy tyrant who has brought Marxism back from its grave

[MikeyDB]

Toro

When have governments not pandered to the economic sectors of big business and corporate greed? We are all made victims to the greed of businesses and the culpability of governments manipulated by the "bottom line". Very few Canadians ever exercise the requisite intellect or insight that would enable them to understand that governments that abuse the rights of the people they serve in the name of keeping Labatts or Molsons or some "company" profitable are in fact demonstrating that (despite what Colpy might say) that either Americans or Canadians are living their lives in "DEMOCRACIES"...

IT'S A LIE!

For the sake of the $.99 hamburger and the "deals" offered by huge corporations Canadians and Americans conveniently forget that governments are supposed to serve the interests of the whole of the people of a nation and not just the Stronachs and the Blacks and the Irvings and the wealthy elite of society. We've abbrogated that responsibility and Canadians aren't smart enough it seems to understand that that's why we're being robbed at the gas pumps...why we're going to have to replace our TV's for the HD Digital wave...why nations hate us when they see how we behave in their countries and the excuses we make to avoid responsbility.

I believe it's all going to come out very badly and in a very short while...and I will enjoy the look on people's faces when the water runs out, when the store shelves are empty and the current line-ups at foodbanks and shelters grow much longer. While petroleum corporations hold the world hostage, truckers are going broke paying for deisel to deliver goods to stores...and Canadians are so stupid they seem to think that it's only at the gas pumps where they're being ripped off....

And let's not pretend here...the Harper Government and every government in this country since Confederation has been conplicit in destroying this "great idea" of a nation from sea to shining sea...and Canadian as a group are so dense they'd rather point fingers than hold the liars in Ottawa and the provincial capitals responsible.

 

[I think not]

Ah yes the Yellow American beats a retreat when the going gets tough! Why not invade Jamacia or the Falklands...something America might be able to manage? It's the same story time and time again.... Americans are happy to claim the high moral ground everywhere where their dollars are in danger but when the higher moral ground is being held accountable for the slaughter of innocent men women and children...they wrap their tails tightly between their legs and run....

Thanks Mikey, I'm still waiting for the banality of your response to my questions.

Considering the diatribe I plummet you in when posed with a serious question, I tend to believe you are so lost you need years of deprogramming.

How's your cat btw?

 

[Dixie Cup]

Man oh man, I am sooooo tired of everyone dissing the Americans. I happen to love them. Their government, not so much. Their foreign policy sucks sometimes. The RICH hollywood types seem to hate their own country - why they don't leave is beyond me as they certainly have the resources to do so - oh, wait - it's where they make the big bucks!! ALLLRIIIGHTTT!!!

I'm afraid, however, that the up-coming election doesn't bode well for the Americans (or the world for that matter) as none of the 3 (current) contenders have strong leadership qualities nor a lot of "common sense".

 

[Albertabound]

Quoting Albertabound

None other than I spend my winters there in the oil industry, talking to oil consultants and such. Along with my knowledge of all the people I know in the oil industry such as drillers that are now looking for work elsewhere because they can't find work in Alberta, also all the layoffs by such companies such as Apache Canada, ....that's my proof...I am there in the thick of it. I travell all of Alberta and simply report my observations. How about you been there lately?​

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Yep that's it, I'm going to take the word of someone that thinks swearing at someone is a valid form of debate...

You have to excuse me if I call BS on your BS.

I searched the notion, found nothing supporting your claim.

So, again I ask, "Got any proof?"

DRILLING RIG ACTIVITY
http://www.nickles.com/rig/

CanadianBear ....Where exactly did you search the notion.
"If you are talking you can not be learning" Didn't your teacher ever tell you this?

 

[Albertabound]

Yes CB it is allllllll BS......

 

[Albertabound]

Sorry about my rage the other day, but I have a short temper when it comes to ignorant people that do not know what they are talking about.

 

[Albertabound]

Another major factor in this equation is the NAFTA treaty with the U.S. which requires Canada to keep dividing its oil production with the U.S. in the current proportions, even if production is declining. Neither country may reduce the proportion of its energy exports to the other relative to the "total supply" of the exporting country during the prior 36-month period. Among other things this makes it tough to sell oil to China, should the Canadians be of a mind to do so.

http://www.fcnp.com/national_commentary/the_peak_oil_crisis_stirrings_in_ottawa_20080319.html

In recent years, Canada has been sending about 2.3 million barrels of oil each day, more than we get from the Persian Gulf, south of the border.

If you are not that familiar with the Canadian energy situation, there are a few things you should know. Canada produces about 3.4 million barrels of real and synthetic (tar sands) oil each day and consumes about 2.36 million. So far, so good.

Canada is energy independent just like the Saudis, Russia, Mexico, and Venezuela. But I just told you something that doesn’t add up. If they are sending 2.3 million barrels per day to the U.S., they must be importing about 1.2 million barrels a day and indeed they are. Most of eastern Canada, including about half of Ontario, imports oil from abroad and is paying world prices. Of course, they are selling at world prices so the problem in the long run is not the balance of payments, but the availability. Add in some Canadian-style taxes and drivers north of the border are currently paying about $4.25 a gallon for gasoline unlike their fellow oil-exporter, Venezuela, where they are paying about 17 cents.

 

[Lester]

http://www.fcnp.com/national_commentary/the_peak_oil_crisis_stirrings_in_ottawa_20080319.html

Did you know that there are no pipelines that go from the west to the east - they go to manitoba and head south into the midwest States,and they have been in talks to build a true east/west pipline since 1974:roll: what about the 320k bbl from Newfoundland, where does it go?:-?Does anyone know if we are allowed (NAFTA) to provide for our domestic needs before we import to the U.S.

 

[Albertabound]

Does anyone know if we are allowed (NAFTA) to provide for our domestic needs before we import to the U.S.

Does anyone know why a oil producing country such as our own is importing oil? When our home grown commodity is more than enough to satify our needs.

 

[Lester]

You need a pipeline from Western to Eastern Canada, without that, no oil will flow East from Alberta or Saskatchewan. It's simply cheaper for Eastern Canada to Import it from the middle east. This is a serious problem- if there is a war over there and the Oil Supply gets cut off...Ontario will come to a grinding halt, that's why I wondered who was buying Newfoundlands OIl, they produce 320 thousand bbl per day, Wheres it going?

 

[Lester]

I think I see part of the problem, found here -http://www.heritage.nf.ca/law/comebychance.html

 

[I think not]

Does anyone know why a oil producing country such as our own is importing oil? When our home grown commodity is more than enough to satify our needs.

Your provincial trade barriers are another problem. You make it easier for the provinces to deal with the US and other countries than between each other.

That may be part of the problem. Just throwing it out there.

 

[Albertabound]

I'm with you 100% on that one.

 

[karrie]

Does anyone know why a oil producing country such as our own is importing oil? When our home grown commodity is more than enough to satify our needs.

lack of refineries.

 

[I think not]

I'm with you 100% on that one.

Then I believe you have many answers to your questions already, albeit not all of them to your satisfaction.

The price of gasoline in Canada (varies by province) is higher than the US for several reasons. And let me just say that I am no economist and I may have a few things wrong but I'll give it a shot from my business background.

1) You have just under 20 refineries spread out all over Canada. It is cheaper to import crude oil from the U.S. and refine it locally (say Quebec) than to transport oil across Canada. Part of the problem is you do not have a refined energy distribution network.

2) Your taxes at the pump are way high, just under 50% last time I checked, which tells me you are getting a HUGE break at the pump had your taxes been comparable to taxes charged at the pump in the U.S. I would go so far to say as it would be less than the U.S.

3) Your provincial trade barriers need to be overhauled, to the extent it is cheaper for residents of provinces to buy from the U.S. than it is across the next door province or within the province itself.

4) Katrina kocked many refineries offline thereby creating a shortage of refined fuel products.

That's all I got. all this together makes alot more sense in my head why you are paying more at the pump for being a world leader in oil production, rather than an agreement that somehow forces Canadians to pay more at the pump.

Something isn't adding up.

 

[Albertabound]

Today, 02:52 PM

Quoting Albertabound Does anyone know why a oil producing country such as our own is importing oil? When our home grown commodity is more than enough to satify our needs.
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lack of refineries.

And what are we doing with the oil once we import it karrie​

 

[Albertabound]

Could it be that most of the oil exploration that goes on in Canada is done by American based companies.

 

[karrie]

Today, 02:52 PM

And what are we doing with the oil once we import it karrie​

I would assume for the same reason we buy and sell power back and forth across the border. Trade doesn't always make a bunch of sense.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

I think I see part of the problem, found here -http://www.heritage.nf.ca/law/comebychance.html

Hmmm....90% exported to the U.S. and 10% sold in NF. Why do I get this sinking feeling in my stomach everytime I read an article like this.

 

[Albertabound]

The price of gasoline in Canada (varies by province) is higher than the US for several reasons.

I don't believe I have ever asked why gas prices are high in Canada. I know why prices are high here, and I don't blame America for that and never did. Other than the fact that, like I mentioned earlier, most oil exploration is done by American companies. However, for the most part, the problem is internal.

My big question is "Why are we importing oil?"

And yes Karrie trade "does" not always make sense......but it's damn well time it did. We are the people of this country. We run the government not the other way around, I wish people would remember this fact.