I mean radiation oncologists routinely make that much, working in university settings they can make that much I stated or more. I think the brain drain isn't so much due to $$, it's due to the research intensity up here compared to down there.
How's the healthcare?
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It really depends upon how hard a doctor is willing to work, I would say that these days a Family practitioner would net 150,000 $ per year easily, without any trouble, and around 200,000 $ if he is willing to work hard, at least here in Ontario.
Family doctors don’t do badly at all in Canada.
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TenPenny has answered you well. I don't think he mentioned that everyone in Canada is entitled to health care (equal health care). If you don't earn enough money, you still get the same care as the guy next door who does earn enough. In many provinces, people pay a monthly fee for medical to their provincial government but again, if you cannot afford to pay (meaning your earnings are too low), you still get care but you don't pay. Many of us have back up care such as Blue Cross or Sunlife. Through our employers, we receive extra benefits that are paid for by the employer. For my husband and myself, my husband's previous employer pays a portion of our medical and we have to pay out the first $100.00 toward our medical costs such as prescriptions, physio/chiro/Massage therapy, podiatrist etc. Then we send in our receipts and we get back 80% of what we have paid out. In our case, our dental is much the same. I work too and I also have a plan in place. That means we get back pretty much 100 % of our medical expenses.
We can have a private room in the hospital if we up-grade our coverage but it's been many years since I have seen a hospital room in BC with more than 2 beds to a room.
Surprisingly, Family Physicians don’t earn all that much more in USA. These are 2008/2009 figures, and they show an income between 150,000 and 200, 000 $ per year. I assume somebody willing to work harder would earn more.
FAMILY PHYSICIAN SALARIES at MDsalaries - The Physician Salaries Blog
But it may be that Family physicians are not well compensated in USA, specialists earn much more. Not surprisingly, the same website says that USA needs 39% more Family Physicians.
Please correct me if I'm wrong (which is a remote possiblitity) but any figures I've seen published re doctor's salaries (I believe they were in the $200,000 to $400,000 range) I understood included the cost of running his office and hiring nurse and receptionist etc. Was I mislead there, or just had a spell of CRS?
You have to be careful here, JLM. If the figures report how much the doctor billed to the government, then yes, they are gross figures, before deducting any expenses. Many times it is these figures that are published and then people think that doctors earn an outrageous amount of money.
But expense for running a doctor’s office can run up to 100,000 $ per year. The expenses are higher for a Family physician than a specialist. FP sees more patients than a specialist, and most of them in his office, a lot of specialist’s work is done in the hospital. So an FP needs a bigger office and perhaps a staff of two, a specialist can make do with staff of one (and many times, that too part time).
But here I am quoting the net figures, after expenses.
Canada MDs salries mean averages per years of experience:
PayScale Canada - Family Physician / Doctor Salary, Average Salaries
2001 comparison between Canadian and American doctors:
Canadian versus American Physician Salaries at MDsalaries - The Physician Salaries Blog
PayScale Canada - Family Physician / Doctor Salary, Average Salaries
2001 comparison between Canadian and American doctors:
Canadian versus American Physician Salaries at MDsalaries - The Physician Salaries Blog