How will a Conservative government be better?

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

Actually, I am kind of hoping the Liberals win, then Quebec can pursue it's separation dream, and western separtism will get louder and louder, and the Liberanos will be known forever as the party in power when the breakup of Bananada occured. :wink:

Yeah, written like a true and staunch supporter of Canadian sovereignty...

To bad treason was not considered a capital crime...

So would you charge the entire province of Quebec?

The Rev said:

If Harper doesn't get at least a large minority, he will be gone. He's had several chances and has failed to make substantial gains.

He was elected leader just over a year ago, he went through one election. Is that several chances? The party is only a little over a year old. All great things take time.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

So would you charge the entire province of Quebec?

The separtists in Quebec? Abso-f**king-lutely...

 

[Reverend Blair]

He was elected leader just over a year ago, he went through one election. Is that several chances? The party is only a little over a year old. All great things take time.

Oh, come on. He has been the leader of the Reformatories since they dumped Stockwell Day. Nobody seriously thinks that it's a different party.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Well Rev...looks like Manitoba and Saskatchewan are destined to be an island of reason in a sea of assholes...

 

[bluealberta]

He was elected leader just over a year ago, he went through one election. Is that several chances? The party is only a little over a year old. All great things take time.

Oh, come on. He has been the leader of the Reformatories since they dumped Stockwell Day. Nobody seriously thinks that it's a different party.

It is still only one election that he has run in as leader. Seems he has just as many chances as Jumpin Jack of the New Dumbocratic Party.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

The NDP don't have history of cannibalism though, Blue. The Reformatories have been eating their young on a regular basis since their inception.

Besides, Harper is a quitter. Preston Manning said so. Even after the last election he considered quitting.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

Can BC come too?

Absolutely, the more the merrier 8)

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

The NDP don't have history of cannibalism though, Blue. The Reformatories have been eating their young on a regular basis since their inception.

Besides, Harper is a quitter. Preston Manning said so. Even after the last election he considered quitting.

All I was disputing was the many chances you said Harper has had. I just don't consider one to be many. The rest I could agree with you, but the NDP also has a history of not ever having a legitimate chance of forming the government, so the situations are quite different. And I would suggest that the media eats the conservative young, whatever the party name.

 

[WarHawk]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

Can BC come too?

Absolutely, the more the merrier 8)

Yay!

 

[WarHawk]

RE: How will a Conservati

Does the NDP offer a paid internship program? Nope. Does the conservative party? Yep.

 

[Scape]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

If the next election produces a minority government, it is highly likely that they will govern for at least two years.

Actually, I am kind of hoping the Liberals win, then Quebec can pursue it's separation dream, and western separtism will get louder and louder, and the Liberanos will be known forever as the party in power when the breakup of Bananada occured. :wink:

Funny, that's what they said about the current government two years.

When the going get's tough the tough get going. Cheering for the break up of Canada at this point shows when the chips are down your true loyalties are not for Canada. Joking or not I share Vanni Fucci sediment.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

If the next election produces a minority government, it is highly likely that they will govern for at least two years.

Actually, I am kind of hoping the Liberals win, then Quebec can pursue it's separation dream, and western separtism will get louder and louder, and the Liberanos will be known forever as the party in power when the breakup of Bananada occured. :wink:

Funny, that's what they said about the current government two years.

When the going get's tough the tough get going. Cheering for the break up of Canada at this point shows when the chips are down your true loyalties are not for Canada. Joking or not I share Vanni Fucci sediment.

In all seriousness, do not underestimate the western sentiment of separation. If the Liberals get elected again, this will turn into a full boil which will get very nasty. I am not fear mongering. This sentiment is real. In fact, even during the last election, some sources put the support for separatism at about 20%. Some said it was the largest support for something that had no official representation. And this is not confined to just Alberta either. I would suggest BC has some very strong feelings on this issue, which may reflect the same attitudes in Alberta.

I had someone ask me the other day: "What exactly is the benefit of Alberta staying in Canada", a question I have asked as well. I stil have no answers. And yes, my true loyalties would be with Canada if I felt that Alberta was not being marginalized, even though we provide massive amounts of money to the ROC. Why we are so upset over the scandal is because we feel that this is our money that is being laundered and wasted, and we have absolutely no say over it.

 

[mrmom2]

I got to agree with you there Blue :wink: Lots of people i know talk about seperation and being free of the idiot politicians fom the east :lol:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

Go then. You can change your name to Montana North. Why not ask them how well represented they feel in Washington?

Or you can try to make it on your own. Good luck with that. 40% of your population does not support your Conservative government. That number rises to about 60% if you plan on taking BC and Saskatchewan with you. The territories that will soon be supplying the natural gas that you use to extract oil from the oil sands will likely shift their exports to the rest of Canada to supply heat, or to the US to fuel industry. Your farmers are on the verge of rebellion already because you are using up their water to produce oil. You won't be able to sell beef to the US because of BSE and Canada produces enough beef that they are unlikely to buy yours. You will have to form a military and do something replace all those RCMP who presently police your province.

Assuming you take Saskatchewan and BC with you, which is what the separatists are shooting for, they will be in almost immediate rebellion because they will be no better off with policy coming out of the U of C basement than they are with policy coming out of Ottawa. They will still feel largely under-represented and want you to address the democratic deficit.

I'd almost like to see Alberta separate...it would be like watching a comic farce about a banana republic. Maybe you could even get Ralphie and Stevie to dress up in generalissimo costumes when Georgie came to town to tell them what their policies would be.

 

[Jay]

Joking or not I share Vanni Fucci sediment.

What sediment? This one?

Well Rev...looks like Manitoba and Saskatchewan are destined to be an island of reason in a sea of assholes...

It doesn't sound like he even likes the rest of Canada, I don't understand why he cares if the rest of us walk away from "Reason Island". Once the “asshole” transfer payment money stops coming in though…..maybe they will reason differently. :wink:

 

[mrmom2]

I don't know what Rev is talking about but most of my relatives live there and they hate the Feds too :lol: If we left they would jump on board so fast it would make your head spin right off Rev

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

I'm talking about Alberta not being able to make it on its own, Mom. It will be as divided as Canada is now by the end of the first election...moreso if it takes its neighbouring provinces with it.

Right now it bears few of the costs of a nation and lacks the infrastructure that nations have. It also has a huge democratic deficit within its own borders and deep divisions bubbling just under the surface.

 

[LadyC]

I doubt the west will ever separate, but I wouldn't count out the option should Quebec ever go.

Don't underestimate the deep feelings of alienation we in the west feel toward Ottawa. We're reminded how little we matter every 4 years or so when we turn our TVs on at 8:00 to find out our votes don't really matter.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

You send MPs to Ottawa every election, C. You are represented according to the number of people you have. If you don't like the way you are represented you can always vote for somebody else.

 

[LadyC]

You don't get it, do you, B? It doesn't matter how I or anyone else here in the west votes. The winner has been declared before our polls have closed.

I turn on the TV at 8:00 to see my new PM's face smiling back at me.

Our ballot boxes haven't even been opened yet.