How to right the Conservative ship

Machjo

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Trans Pacific Partnership.. the most recent of the eviscerating Free Trade Agreements that both the Conservatives and Liberals have enacted since the 1980s that has put the Canadian economy into a death spiral. That stems directly for 18th Century Classic (Imperial) British Liberalism.

All of the recent Conservative Policies are in informed by American Tea Party idiots.. gun nuts, libertarians.. has nothing to do with Conservatism. In fact they are pawns of the Global Free Market Oligarchy. And they have completely, EXCEPT for lip service.. abandoned all Conservative moral issues.. such as abortion or the protection of (real) marriage.

They are Dolts and Quislings.. like Harper.

Free trade is actually a good thing iverall.

My concern was more with its dabbling in identity politics (telling women what to wear, barbaric cultural practices hotline, going over the top in national security laws, etc.

Its problem did not lie in its trade policies. If anything I'd like to see the other parties adopt free trade.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Free trade is actually a good thing iverall.

My concern was more with its dabbling in identity politics (telling women what to wear, barbaric cultural practices hotline, going over the top in national security laws, etc.

Its problem did not lie in its trade policies. If anything I'd like to see the other parties adopt free trade.

I think what we want to avoid is this.

 

taxslave

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Trans Pacific Partnership.. the most recent of the eviscerating Free Trade Agreements that both the Conservatives and Liberals have enacted since the 1980s that has put the Canadian economy into a death spiral. That stems directly for 18th Century Classic (Imperial) British Liberalism.

All of the recent Conservative Policies are in informed by American Tea Party idiots.. gun nuts, libertarians.. has nothing to do with Conservatism. In fact they are pawns of the Global Free Market Oligarchy. And they have completely, EXCEPT for lip service.. abandoned all conservative moral issues.. such as abortion or the protection of (real) marriage.

They are Dolts and Quislings.. like Harper.

Speaking of drooling mouth breathers. You represent all that is wrong with the right in Canada.
 

Machjo

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Another improvement to the CPC would be to allow a free vote on abortion laws. Harper was wrong in whipping his MPs on this matter.

Same for prostitution laws. Imprisonment might be excessive, but a hefty fine that doubles for each repeat offence is more than reasonable given the social harm that it causes.

Better regulation of the advertising of such services is needed too. The CPC had totally overlooked the international and interjurisdictional nature of the Internet when it had drafted its prostitution laws.

Free vote on same sex marriage would be a step forward too.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Another improvement to the CPC would be to allow a free vote on abortion laws. Harper was wrong in whipping his MPs on this matter.

Same for prostitution laws. Imprisonment might be excessive, but a hefty fine that doubles for each repeat offence is more than reasonable given the social harm that it causes.

Better regulation of the advertising of such services is needed too. The CPC had totally overlooked the international and interjurisdictional nature of the Internet when it had drafted its prostitution laws.

Free vote on same sex marriage would be a step forward too.

Both the issue, of abortion and SSM were voted upon. Stephen Harper respected the outcome of the vote and said it would not be revisited.


Very pretty lady and talented too.
 

coldstream

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It's interesting that he's a conservative but conservatives can't engage him on their own ground. .

I wonder how far things will have to disassemble before people realize they are being scammed by labels. Virtually every mainstream Party now promotes policies that will bring on an inevitable crisis of historic proportions.

They undermine all that as positive and vital in the nation and replace it with sinister sophistry, ulterior motives and failed promises. These policies ride a Pale Horse.. and on it rides Death.. The West and this Culture of Death is careening towards a reckoning.
 
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Machjo

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I wonder how far things will have to disassemble before people realize they are being scammed by labels. Virtually every mainstream Party now promotes policies that will bring on an inevitable crisis of historic proportions.

They undermine all that as positive and vital in the nation and replace it with sinister sophistry and failed promises. These policies ride a Pale Horse.. and on it rides Death.. The West and its Culture of Death is careening towards a reckoning.

How do you explain that when Canada promoted protectionism, so did the provinces, and provinces started breaking down their trade barriers only when Canada eventually turned to free trade?

Both the issue, of abortion and SSM were voted upon. Stephen Harper respected the outcome of the vote and said it would not be revisited.



Very pretty lady and talented too.

Those are generally not make-or-break for me though, nor is free trade. The killer for me was the CPC's dabbling in identity politics.
 

coldstream

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How do you explain that when Canada promoted protectionism, so did the provinces, and provinces started breaking down their trade barriers only when Canada eventually turned to free trade?

The best trade policies diminish those within a nation and promote internal competition.. while reinforcing those at its borders. But to make that work you have to have national economic policy and a strong federalist bias at the Parliamentary level. We haven't had either in a long time.
 

davesmom

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I would like to see all political parties get the hell out of people's personal lives and stop micromanaging/ social engineering.
They waste time taking away so much personal responsibility and made laws about issues that people should be managing on their own.
The current two issues they are embroiled in are the 'spanking' law and 'assisted suicide'.
We already have laws against assault and murder to deal with those issues adequately.
Abortion, gay marriage, pension plan enforcement, minimum wage, all issues that people could deal with themselves with common sense, personal responsibility and innovation.
The conservatives were trying to encourage more personal choices for people, (i.e child care choices), Liberals seem to be intent on even more invasion into our personal lives.
 

Machjo

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The best trade policies diminish those within a nation and promote internal competition.. while reinforcing those at its borders. But to make that work you have to have national economic policy and a strong federalist bias at the Parliamentary level. We haven't had either in a long time.
I don't follow the logic. How is trade bad between states but good between provinces? Given that it's the same thing, it should logically be bad in both cases or good in both cases.