How to recognise GOD?

hariharan

Nominee Member
Jan 28, 2008
53
1
8
India
Everyone ask IS THER GOD? Assume GOD is there, how to recognize him/her? Do you think he/she has form like we humans? How do you expect him/her to be?

Hari
 

dancing-loon

House Member
Oct 8, 2007
2,739
36
48
Hi, Hari;
how brave you are to hit us with such a heavy subject!!8O

Allow me to answer your question with a counter-question: If there was no God, would we notice it?

You know, we humans say, "our Father who art in heaven..." and we say, "our Mother Earth..."
From those sayings we could believe that God is a male, and we are his children.
It is entirely possible that he could take on human form, if he chose to do so.
He is omni-present... therefore he is everywhere at the same time.
He is in me, in you ... in all living things.
His spirit is limitless, I think.
I expect him to be kind and unbiased. He is loving, but also practices "tough love" on us!
Tough love is his invention of the law of karma.... you reap what you sow! Every action produces a reaction.

What time is it in India now?
I have to go to bed and get some sleep.

Good Night!;-)
 

talloola

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 14, 2006
19,576
113
63
Vancouver Island
I am not religious at all, but my daughter explains it like this. There was never a person or anything alive that is god. god is 'energy' which is felt by those who believe.
 

hariharan

Nominee Member
Jan 28, 2008
53
1
8
India
If God is omni-present …. therefore he is everywhere and he is everything, then there must be a common thing between everything and that must be GOD. Considering GOD as ENERGY ( thanks Talloola ) is logical ( at least I feel ). Energy neither created nor destroyed it is only transformed. If GOD is energy, what and where is the source of energy:?:
 

talloola

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 14, 2006
19,576
113
63
Vancouver Island
If God is omni-present …. therefore he is everywhere and he is everything, then there must be a common thing between everything and that must be GOD. Considering GOD as ENERGY ( thanks Talloola ) is logical ( at least I feel ). Energy neither created nor destroyed it is only transformed. If GOD is energy, what and where is the source of energy:?:

You've got me there, I guess my daughter would have to answer that question, as i don't
believe what she believes, but that is her path, and she is free to follow it.

I have great energy, always have, but it has nothing to do with god, it is 'mine', and I
use it as I see fit, to live my life. I am a realist, I don't have the 'need' to look elsewhere
for help, my parents gave me good genes and good health, and the ability to think 'logically', so I go with that, as it has been very dependable.
 

Pangloss

Council Member
Mar 16, 2007
1,535
41
48
Calgary, Alberta
If "God" is eternal, and "God" is energy, then what of entropy? "God" just fizzles out, like at the end of Pullman's books His Dark Materials?

Why does anyone think they need a god anyway? The concept is self-refuting.

Pangloss
 

hariharan

Nominee Member
Jan 28, 2008
53
1
8
India
If anyone asks me is there GOD? I will certainly answer to them yes GOD is there. Science has not answering to all of our questions. Science only can explain how and when it cannot exactly answer to the question WHY? Why earth? Why Universe? Why you and me? What was the purpose behind all these creations? Only philosophy can answer to the questions WHY. So friends, GOD is a philosophical entity and we will discuss it philosophically and not scientifically.

Friends the topic is getting diverted. This thread is to discuss about the form of GOD. Please ensure that we are not getting diverted.
 

s_lone

Council Member
Feb 16, 2005
2,233
30
48
44
Montreal
If "God" is eternal, and "God" is energy, then what of entropy? "God" just fizzles out, like at the end of Pullman's books His Dark Materials?

Why does anyone think they need a god anyway? The concept is self-refuting.

Pangloss

It's not a question of 'needing' God... It's a question of looking for the truth. Whether or not I need him, God exists... or not...
 

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
63
RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia
If anyone asks me is there GOD? I will certainly answer to them yes GOD is there. Science has not answering to all of our questions. Science only can explain how and when it cannot exactly answer to the question WHY? Why earth? Why Universe? Why you and me? What was the purpose behind all these creations? Only philosophy can answer to the questions WHY. So friends, GOD is a philosophical entity and we will discuss it philosophically and not scientifically.

Friends the topic is getting diverted. This thread is to discuss about the form of GOD. Please ensure that we are not getting diverted.

The form of god is power. The most closest power/god well is the sun. It is the source of our animation and maintenence. The birds know that, the grass knows that,every atom on the planet knows that. How is it that you don't? There that's the end of the GOD discussion.
I don't think man can describe god anyway. How is it that puny beings like us could hope to describe a god of this universe? We are tiny it is infinite, to describe god would require that you are it's superior. God will always remain beyond human understanding. To know the supreme being fully would mean being that gods equal or superior. Be happy with the little god in the sky. IMO
 

talloola

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 14, 2006
19,576
113
63
Vancouver Island
If anyone asks me is there GOD? I will certainly answer to them yes GOD is there. Science has not answering to all of our questions. Science only can explain how and when it cannot exactly answer to the question WHY? Why earth? Why Universe? Why you and me? What was the purpose behind all these creations? Only philosophy can answer to the questions WHY. So friends, GOD is a philosophical entity and we will discuss it philosophically and not scientifically.

Friends the topic is getting diverted. This thread is to discuss about the form of GOD. Please ensure that we are not getting diverted.

Science can answer many questions with 'proof', and what they cannot answer they constantly work their way, through research and discovery until another level is reached, and it is also 'proven', then on they go to learn more.

You say that, when someone asks you 'if there is a god' you answer yes, how can you
prove that, other than, it is what you believe.
 

s_lone

Council Member
Feb 16, 2005
2,233
30
48
44
Montreal
If we agree that God is 'everything', then we agree that God exists and God becomes an undeniable reality. But that doesn't lead us anywhere. We still don't know what is the nature of God... what is God's form...

To me THE question is this: Is God alive? And more specifically, is God conscious?
 

s_lone

Council Member
Feb 16, 2005
2,233
30
48
44
Montreal
The form of god is power. The most closest power/god well is the sun. It is the source of our animation and maintenence. The birds know that, the grass knows that,every atom on the planet knows that. How is it that you don't? There that's the end of the GOD discussion.
I don't think man can describe god anyway. How is it that puny beings like us could hope to describe a god of this universe? We are tiny it is infinite, to describe god would require that you are it's superior. God will always remain beyond human understanding. To know the supreme being fully would mean being that gods equal or superior. Be happy with the little god in the sky. IMO

Yes! From our human point of view, the most vivid and powerful manifestation of God is the Sun. While we do see many distant stars in the nightsky, it is the Sun that gives us life. The Sun animates this planet we live on. The Sun gives us life.

We feed from the Earth, our planet. In a symbolic way, we ARE the Earth... And because it is the Sun that gives all life-energy to the Earth, we could say that we are the Sun. We humans, are a manifestation of the Sun and the Sun is a manifestation of God... we are all connected... AMEN
 

hariharan

Nominee Member
Jan 28, 2008
53
1
8
India
Science can answer many questions with 'proof', and what they cannot answer they constantly work their way, through research and discovery until another level is reached, and it is also 'proven', then on they go to learn more.

You say that, when someone asks you 'if there is a god' you answer yes, how can you
prove that, other than, it is what you believe.

Science needs proof, philosophy does not. In other words Philosophy is more like theory. Philosophy is based on belief.
 

hariharan

Nominee Member
Jan 28, 2008
53
1
8
India
Yeah, and red is blue, and night is day.
Yeah, you got it perfect. Red is blue and night is day. You know we call RED as RED because we have been thought by our society to call it RED. We named it RED for our own communication purpose. So night can be DAY also if we change it. So called god and bad, right and wrong everything falls with in this same argument. The meaning of everything changes as the thinking and thoughts of a society get changed. Only changes are permanent.
 

Pangloss

Council Member
Mar 16, 2007
1,535
41
48
Calgary, Alberta
Science needs proof, philosophy does not. In other words Philosophy is more like theory. Philosophy is based on belief.

My goodness, hariharan. That's quite an accusation - do you care to back that up with any proof or is that just some random drive-by slandering?

Philosophy is based on belief? You could not be more wrong.

Read any introductory text on philosophy (I'd recommend Russel's "Problems of Philosophy," but I suspect it's a bit deep for you; instead maybe you should try Simon Blackburn's "Think," or Robert M. Martin's "There Are Two Errors In The The Title Of This Book.") and then tell me that philosophy is based on belief.

Until then, limit yourself to what you actually know.

Yeah, I know this sounds bitchy - and it is. It is the height of bigotry for someone to make sweeping statements like this with no education or training to back up what they just wrote.

Pangloss
 

Pangloss

Council Member
Mar 16, 2007
1,535
41
48
Calgary, Alberta
Yeah, you got it perfect. Red is blue and night is day. You know we call RED as RED because we have been thought by our society to call it RED. We named it RED for our own communication purpose. So night can be DAY also if we change it. So called god and bad, right and wrong everything falls with in this same argument. The meaning of everything changes as the thinking and thoughts of a society get changed. Only changes are permanent.

Actually, you are confusing linguistics with, well, I don't know what you are confusing it with. Either your spelling/syntax is at a barely literate level, or you wrote this while drunk.

There is no way to parse what you wrote without granting you a meaning you never put there.

Familiar with "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"? Maybe you missed the point of Shakespeare's soliloquy.

Pangloss