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I'm putting you on notice I'm going to report this post for abuse. I'm just kind of curious as to where that would go. So if you find yourself falling through cyber space you'll know it was me. :) :) :)

Thank you so much for your typical LIE-beral efforts to censor any view that you have no facts to debate in any effective way. And of course LIBEL CHILL is a favorite tactic of inarticulate LIE-berals! Its why they are talking about punishments for Islamophobes BEFORE they bother to define it! Yes- LIE-berasl are trying to set up some sort of Star Chamber that can dish out punishments WITHOUT the bother of waiting for us to actually commit an actual crime! The haunted laughter you hear is Franz Kafka howling in his grave!

And.....What ever happened to that lawsuit that Ontari-owe LIE-berals launched against Conservatives who revealed the scope and scale of the LIE-beral gas plant scandal? Why dont you could consider this:

Here is an article illustrating the ugly uses LIE-berals seem to be planning for their Islamophobia law! With some comments of my own in brackets):
M-103 talk turns to prosecution, censorship.

(Vile LIE-berals have not yet even defined Islamophobai but already they have jumped over to discussing punishments for violators! This is third world pest hole plitics at its finest- where opponents of govt are rounded up and dragged before a judge and asked if they would like to say a few words before sentence is passed and punishment imposed! If LIE-berals cannot define the crime then prosecution of the “crime” will be at the whim of LIE-berals- with No acceptable legal defense!)

BY ANTHONY FUREY, POSTMEDIA NETWORK
FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2017 06:12 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2017 07:22 PM EDT

Related Stories
Toronto District School Board chair defends controversial Islamic guidebook

(This is all part of the LIE-beral war on :Cdn Imperialism” as defined by the vile Trudope family!)

After the first M-103 hearing on Monday, I wrote that we were perhaps facing a less adversarial process than expected. Liberal MP Iqra Khalid was conciliatory as the initial witness, emphasizing that her motion to tackle discrimination was equally about all religions and races. She hardly mentioned the ill-defined phrase Islamophobia.

How quickly things change. Wednesday’s hearing confirmed some of Canadians’ worst suspicions about the process and its effects on free speech.

(This article appeared in public media Sept 20/17 and since then we have heard NOTHING MORE! I guess LIE-berals and thei media pals have been stung by public reaction to their bigotry in favour of Muslims? Or perhaps LIE-berals are growing worried that too many Cdns DO BELIEVE that LIE-berals will be using Islamophobia as a club to silence critic of ANY LIE-beral policy?)

Witness Michel Juneau-Katsuya was an officer in both the RCMP and CSIS. He’s been in private security for a number of years and a regular media voice offering commentary on national security and terror.

From what I know of him, he’s never said anything particularly controversial. Yet on Wednesday, he offered a number of eerie observations about using the state to deal with voices that “go too far.”

Juneau-Katsuya used his time to speak – in French, so all of my quotes are the interpreter’s words – about the threat of the “alt-right” in Quebec, never specifying how he was using this term.

This in itself is no big deal and Quebec certainly seems to have a problem with radicalism. But then he went on to chastise what they call “trash radio” in Quebec, recommending they should perhaps have their licences pulled for engaging in Islamophobia.

What exactly are they saying on Francophone radio? Are they calling for violence? Issuing death threats?

In the aftermath of the Quebec City mosque shootings, there were similar calls to deal with these stations. A CBC story featured much hand-wringing over the stations, but could only offer this evidence: “Radio poubelle (trash radio) stations often air segments voicing concerns about Muslim immigration and the threat of Islamic terrorism.”

(OH GOSH! The Toronto 18 wanted to blow up Toronto Stock Exchange, machine gun parliament and behead the prime minister. Aaron Driver- the radical Muslim supporter- blew himself up in a taxi west of Toronto after Cdn cops cornered him thanks to an FBI tip. A couple of Muslims tried and failed to derail a Via train off the Highland Creek Bridge- that plot also thwarted due to an FBI tip! This is only a PARTIAL LIST of the terror events in Canada! Is it not common sense to discuss the reality of Muslim terror? And are those who suggest that such talk is bigoted and not based in common sense not actually exposing THEIR BIAS?)

Is that it? Maybe they’re rude and excessive. But how is that a crime that warrants the government shutting them down?

(LIE-beral policy does not stand up under careful scrutiny! The rising govt debts and increasing toll of maimed and dead victims of Muslim terror around the world mandates public SCORN of LIE-beral policies and values!)

Juneau-Katsuya then lamented that there was “too much shyness and political correctness when it comes to the prosecuting process, letting it go under the blanket of free speech and letting things go too far.” We should be prosecuting people more, he said.

He was then asked by Liberal MP Arif Virani if Rebel Media “amplifies the voices of the extreme right?” He answered yes.

(Oh there is a fascist LIE-beral view- Rebel media is led by Ezra Levant who dares to defend Jews and Israel and dares to mock grossly selfish LIE-beral |Carbon crap and trade policy- among other issues. Most Cdns accept that Israel has a right to exist and that Muslims must accept some sort of sensible compromise if there is to be peace in the Middle East. Cdns do Not accept that Jews can simply be driven into the sea and forgotten as Muslim terror groups have sworn to do!)

Virani then read out a tweet that wrongly said the Quebec City shooter had an unspecified Muslim accomplice.

Juneau-Katsuya said it should be “denounced and if possible prosecuted, because here, this is defamation.”

(There are Cdns who WILL SAY that the Quebec shooter DID have an accomplice! After all, he is reported to have been radicalized by stuff he read on line- and SOMEBODY placed that information there for him to read! Who? Why? Hpw much foreign influence did he get from ourv enemies?)

The tweet, Virani then revealed, was in fact made by my colleague Tarek Fatah – who was also testifying that day.

What should we make of all this? No one disputes people should be charged for threats, harassment and, of course, assault. That wasn’t what was being discussed though.

No, this was a former federal police officer basically toying with the censoring of the media and the prosecuting of individuals when “things go too far.”

(And “too far” is left to the discretion of LIE-berals who are more interested in clinging to power at any price than in matters of national security and public safety!)

Rather bizarrely, Virani told Fatah that same day that he disagreed with his opening remarks but believed in his right to say them. So why then did he lay a trap that ended in a witness recommending Fatah be prosecuted for an erroneous tweet?

My colleagues in the media tried to say M-103 was a toothless motion. Yet here we are, having a committee hearing. Then they said it would never lead to suppression of speech. Yet look what just happened.

This is a dangerous game we’re playing. Everyone's free to disagree with Quebec talk radio, Ezra Levant and Tarek Fatah until the cows come home. But prosecution?!

(Yes- disagree with private sector media types if you want but annoy LIE-berals by poking holes in their FAILED policies at your peril!)

If these observations get turned into recommendations in the committee report, we have a huge problem on our hands.

(One has only to read some of the quotes supplied by Max Nemni in his biography and summarized in an Ottawa Citizen book review of Pierre Trudope to realize how dangerous are Trudope family values! Pierre Trudope praised Chinese Chairman Mao “for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows and went on to tell us that the war against Nazi Germany was “British Imperialism”! Son Sacha has praised Cuban dictator Castro as the “greatest man of the century” in his sickening “love letter to Castro”- that was so wildly mocked in National Post. Sacha has also made anti Israel and anti Yankee films in collaboration with Iranian Mullahs. Our idiot Boy Justin has told us that he admires “the way Chinese get things done”- meaning he is praising Communist dictators! Idiot Justin has also praised dictator Castro as a fine long time family friend! The Trudopes are not people to turn to for a defense of democracy and capitalism! Therefore the LIE-beral initiative on Islamphobia- which they resolutely REFUSE to define, must be regarded with considerable fear!)
 

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Thank you so much for your typical LIE-beral efforts to censor any view that you have no facts to debate in any effective way. And of course LIBEL CHILL is a favorite tactic of inarticulate LIE-berals! Its why they are talking about punishments for Islamophobes BEFORE they bother to define it! Yes- LIE-berasl are trying to set up some sort of Star Chamber that can dish out punishments WITHOUT the bother of waiting for us to actually commit an actual crime! The haunted laughter you hear is Franz Kafka howling in his grave!

And.....What ever happened to that lawsuit that Ontari-owe LIE-berals launched against Conservatives who revealed the scope and scale of the LIE-beral gas plant scandal? Why dont you could consider this:

Here is an article illustrating the ugly uses LIE-berals seem to be planning for their Islamophobia law! With some comments of my own in brackets):
M-103 talk turns to prosecution, censorship.

(Vile LIE-berals have not yet even defined Islamophobai but already they have jumped over to discussing punishments for violators! This is third world pest hole plitics at its finest- where opponents of govt are rounded up and dragged before a judge and asked if they would like to say a few words before sentence is passed and punishment imposed! If LIE-berals cannot define the crime then prosecution of the “crime” will be at the whim of LIE-berals- with No acceptable legal defense!)

BY ANTHONY FUREY, POSTMEDIA NETWORK
FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2017 06:12 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2017 07:22 PM EDT

Related Stories
Toronto District School Board chair defends controversial Islamic guidebook

(This is all part of the LIE-beral war on :Cdn Imperialism” as defined by the vile Trudope family!)

After the first M-103 hearing on Monday, I wrote that we were perhaps facing a less adversarial process than expected. Liberal MP Iqra Khalid was conciliatory as the initial witness, emphasizing that her motion to tackle discrimination was equally about all religions and races. She hardly mentioned the ill-defined phrase Islamophobia.

How quickly things change. Wednesday’s hearing confirmed some of Canadians’ worst suspicions about the process and its effects on free speech.

(This article appeared in public media Sept 20/17 and since then we have heard NOTHING MORE! I guess LIE-berals and thei media pals have been stung by public reaction to their bigotry in favour of Muslims? Or perhaps LIE-berals are growing worried that too many Cdns DO BELIEVE that LIE-berals will be using Islamophobia as a club to silence critic of ANY LIE-beral policy?)

Witness Michel Juneau-Katsuya was an officer in both the RCMP and CSIS. He’s been in private security for a number of years and a regular media voice offering commentary on national security and terror.

From what I know of him, he’s never said anything particularly controversial. Yet on Wednesday, he offered a number of eerie observations about using the state to deal with voices that “go too far.”

Juneau-Katsuya used his time to speak – in French, so all of my quotes are the interpreter’s words – about the threat of the “alt-right” in Quebec, never specifying how he was using this term.

This in itself is no big deal and Quebec certainly seems to have a problem with radicalism. But then he went on to chastise what they call “trash radio” in Quebec, recommending they should perhaps have their licences pulled for engaging in Islamophobia.

What exactly are they saying on Francophone radio? Are they calling for violence? Issuing death threats?

In the aftermath of the Quebec City mosque shootings, there were similar calls to deal with these stations. A CBC story featured much hand-wringing over the stations, but could only offer this evidence: “Radio poubelle (trash radio) stations often air segments voicing concerns about Muslim immigration and the threat of Islamic terrorism.”

(OH GOSH! The Toronto 18 wanted to blow up Toronto Stock Exchange, machine gun parliament and behead the prime minister. Aaron Driver- the radical Muslim supporter- blew himself up in a taxi west of Toronto after Cdn cops cornered him thanks to an FBI tip. A couple of Muslims tried and failed to derail a Via train off the Highland Creek Bridge- that plot also thwarted due to an FBI tip! This is only a PARTIAL LIST of the terror events in Canada! Is it not common sense to discuss the reality of Muslim terror? And are those who suggest that such talk is bigoted and not based in common sense not actually exposing THEIR BIAS?)

Is that it? Maybe they’re rude and excessive. But how is that a crime that warrants the government shutting them down?

(LIE-beral policy does not stand up under careful scrutiny! The rising govt debts and increasing toll of maimed and dead victims of Muslim terror around the world mandates public SCORN of LIE-beral policies and values!)

Juneau-Katsuya then lamented that there was “too much shyness and political correctness when it comes to the prosecuting process, letting it go under the blanket of free speech and letting things go too far.” We should be prosecuting people more, he said.

He was then asked by Liberal MP Arif Virani if Rebel Media “amplifies the voices of the extreme right?” He answered yes.

(Oh there is a fascist LIE-beral view- Rebel media is led by Ezra Levant who dares to defend Jews and Israel and dares to mock grossly selfish LIE-beral |Carbon crap and trade policy- among other issues. Most Cdns accept that Israel has a right to exist and that Muslims must accept some sort of sensible compromise if there is to be peace in the Middle East. Cdns do Not accept that Jews can simply be driven into the sea and forgotten as Muslim terror groups have sworn to do!)

Virani then read out a tweet that wrongly said the Quebec City shooter had an unspecified Muslim accomplice.

Juneau-Katsuya said it should be “denounced and if possible prosecuted, because here, this is defamation.”

(There are Cdns who WILL SAY that the Quebec shooter DID have an accomplice! After all, he is reported to have been radicalized by stuff he read on line- and SOMEBODY placed that information there for him to read! Who? Why? Hpw much foreign influence did he get from ourv enemies?)

The tweet, Virani then revealed, was in fact made by my colleague Tarek Fatah – who was also testifying that day.

What should we make of all this? No one disputes people should be charged for threats, harassment and, of course, assault. That wasn’t what was being discussed though.

No, this was a former federal police officer basically toying with the censoring of the media and the prosecuting of individuals when “things go too far.”

(And “too far” is left to the discretion of LIE-berals who are more interested in clinging to power at any price than in matters of national security and public safety!)

Rather bizarrely, Virani told Fatah that same day that he disagreed with his opening remarks but believed in his right to say them. So why then did he lay a trap that ended in a witness recommending Fatah be prosecuted for an erroneous tweet?

My colleagues in the media tried to say M-103 was a toothless motion. Yet here we are, having a committee hearing. Then they said it would never lead to suppression of speech. Yet look what just happened.

This is a dangerous game we’re playing. Everyone's free to disagree with Quebec talk radio, Ezra Levant and Tarek Fatah until the cows come home. But prosecution?!

(Yes- disagree with private sector media types if you want but annoy LIE-berals by poking holes in their FAILED policies at your peril!)

If these observations get turned into recommendations in the committee report, we have a huge problem on our hands.

(One has only to read some of the quotes supplied by Max Nemni in his biography and summarized in an Ottawa Citizen book review of Pierre Trudope to realize how dangerous are Trudope family values! Pierre Trudope praised Chinese Chairman Mao “for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows and went on to tell us that the war against Nazi Germany was “British Imperialism”! Son Sacha has praised Cuban dictator Castro as the “greatest man of the century” in his sickening “love letter to Castro”- that was so wildly mocked in National Post. Sacha has also made anti Israel and anti Yankee films in collaboration with Iranian Mullahs. Our idiot Boy Justin has told us that he admires “the way Chinese get things done”- meaning he is praising Communist dictators! Idiot Justin has also praised dictator Castro as a fine long time family friend! The Trudopes are not people to turn to for a defense of democracy and capitalism! Therefore the LIE-beral initiative on Islamphobia- which they resolutely REFUSE to define, must be regarded with considerable fear!)

Jesus Christ, Dude. You need to chill out a bit.
 

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Thank you so much for your typical LIE-beral efforts to censor any view that you have no facts to debate in any effective way. And of course LIBEL CHILL is a favorite tactic of inarticulate LIE-berals! Its why they are talking about punishments for Islamophobes BEFORE they bother to define it! Yes- LIE-berasl are trying to set up some sort of Star Chamber that can dish out punishments WITHOUT the bother of waiting for us to actually commit an actual crime! The haunted laughter you hear is Franz Kafka howling in his grave!

!)
Are you Adrienne Batra.........?
 

spilledthebeer

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Jesus Christ, Dude. You need to chill out a bit.

You think so? Apparently you were not a very good soldier? Previous wars have been fought by Cdns in places OVER seas- the next war is ALREADY being fought on our MAIN STREET. How many dead after being run over by trucks in mass murders around the world?

How many dead in various shootings around North America?

How many dead in various bombings around the world? And various MUslim groups HATE EACH OTHER as much as they hate us.

ONLY LIE-BERALS want these kooks to come here- so they can buy the votes and cling to power at any price! Does the name Neville Chamberlain mean nothing to you?

Here are some things to thank a Lie-beral for: At a point a couple of years back there were over 200 people on a CSIS watch list- meaning these people had immigrated to Canada and were deemed so potentially dangerous that government agents ran surveillance ALL DAY, EVERY DAY on these clowns. CSIS has collected enough evidence to conclude these people are dangerous in some fashion-either they have links to terror groups or they have strong ties to organized crime or they stand accused of having committed serious crimes or possibly of aiding those who committed the crimes- these people have arrived with the strong chance that if we let them into Canada as landed immigrants-and freed them of constant police supervision- there is a real chance they would return to their destructive and or criminal ways-people would die and be maimed and lives would be ruined.

Each suspect must obviously have a team of at least 3 agents to watch them for 8 hour shifts each day, with more agents for weekends. Considering the pay rate of a first class police constable in Toronto it stands to reason that it costs government at least one hundred thousand dollars per year per agent for salary. So, 200 troublemakers multiplied by a minimum of 700 agents being paid a minimum of one hundred thousand dollars each gives a yearly cost of over sixty million dollars.

THEN start adding in the extra costs for things the agents need such as cars and gas for agents to shadow traveling suspects, secure cell phone communication, guns, wire taps and other electronic surveillance gear, assorted communications and meetings with agents of other countries to verify the stories the suspects are telling and collect evidence of past sins and compare note-as in: what did they do when they traveling in your jurisdiction last week and etc....

THEN we add in the costs for the suspects themselves: the welfare support for `affordable` housing, winter clothing, health care and dental care when needed, PLUS whatever assistance their wives and kids require, including schooling. Then we add the immigration hearings-lawyers for the suspects, legal teams for government to make sure the judge understands what a potentially vicious dog is being presented in court, all the ancillary expenses, the subpoenas to bring in all needed witnesses at the proper times and the court clerks and bailiffs and the judge to wrangle all interested parties and record all necessary information and etc...

So, we add up all the extras and what cost are we looking at? At hundred and twenty million dollars per year? Or perhaps one hundred and eighty million dollars per year? What we do know is that in early 2015 some hundreds of extra RCMP officers were directed to JOIN the CSIS security details and keep watch over an expanded gang of suspects....so now what are the costs? Two hundred forty million dollars per year? Maybe three hundred million dollars? WHO KNOWS what it costs to keep tabs on all these clowns? LIE-berals do not think these costs should concern us!

So, we give our thanks to Lie-berals everywhere for creating our screwed up immigration system! Thanks to Lie-berals we are virtually powerless to control these costs and deport people who have NO chance of ever becoming useful, productive Canadian citizens simply because there IS enough evidence available to convince ordinary Cdns that these suspects are utterly unsuitable candidates for Cdn citizenship- but THERE IS NOT enough evidence to convince a Lie-beral appointed immigration judge that these people should be deported! So they stay here.....costing millions that would be better spent on our own people-the old and the sick and the injured-like veterans....so THANKS to the Lie-berals for that!

Are you Adrienne Batra.........?

No- but I approve of her mind set and her values!
 

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So it appears....


Back on topic.........


Federal police officers in Canada and the U.S. announced on Thursday arrests of organized crime associates on both sides of the border as part of a years-long investigation into organized crime and drug trafficking. The RCMP said their latest bust will make a significant dent in organized crime operations involving illicit drugs in Canada.

Around 150 police officers with “Project OTremens” carried out morning raids Canada. Nine arrests were made and 75 charges were laid by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), which seized 6 kilograms of fentanyl and 1 kilogram of the even deadlier carfentanil, along with large quantities of heroin, meth, MDMA. Officers also seized more than three million contraband cigarettes.

Those arrested by the RCMP include Domenico Violi, a son of Montreal mafia don Paolo Violi, while an arrest warrant has been issued for his brother, Giuseppe. There are a number of other Canada-wide arrest warrants out for individuals facing other drugs, weapons, and organized crime charges.

more

https://news.vice.com/story/fbi-and...ed-mafia-members-in-fentanyl-trafficking-bust
 

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You think so? Apparently you were not a very good soldier? Previous wars have been fought by Cdns in places OVER seas- the next war is ALREADY being fought on our MAIN STREET. How many dead after being run over by trucks in mass murders around the world?

How many dead in various shootings around North America?

How many dead in various bombings around the world? And various MUslim groups HATE EACH OTHER as much as they hate us.

How many of your soldiers have you lost? I buried two of mine. My family has served this country from one generation to the next, dating back to the Boer War. One of my kids is veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq and he still serves. My nephew was on the bloodiest tour to date in Afghanistan and his Dad also served.

Ever picked up a rifle? Ever looked into the eye of a five year old child at grave side or held a brother who lost another and tried to console them?

I've been around, seen enough to know that hate breeds hate and idiots who generalize are as dangerous as the enemy.
But I guess I wasn't a very good soldier.
 

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How many of your soldiers have you lost? I buried two of mine. My family has served this country from one generation to the next, dating back to the Boer War. One of my kids is veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq and he still serves. My nephew was on the bloodiest tour to date in Afghanistan and his Dad also served.

Ever picked up a rifle? Ever looked into the eye of a five year old child at grave side or held a brother who lost another and tried to console them?

I've been around, seen enough to know that hate breeds hate and idiots who generalize are as dangerous as the enemy.
But I guess I wasn't a very good soldier.

Ignore the Jody, RCS. He's retarded.
 

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Simple solution, one revival and then just let them remain dead if it happens again. It isn't like the person changes his lifestyle over it.

I know that you're not saying that dead is the preferred lifestyle change, are you.


There should at least be a written warning first before the case is advanced to death. Wouldn.t that be very christian? like
 

spilledthebeer

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How many of your soldiers have you lost? I buried two of mine. My family has served this country from one generation to the next, dating back to the Boer War. One of my kids is veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq and he still serves. My nephew was on the bloodiest tour to date in Afghanistan and his Dad also served.

Ever picked up a rifle? Ever looked into the eye of a five year old child at grave side or held a brother who lost another and tried to console them?

I've been around, seen enough to know that hate breeds hate and idiots who generalize are as dangerous as the enemy.
But I guess I wasn't a very good soldier.

You are right- YOU ARE NOT a very good solider at all! NO SENSIBLE SOLDIER wants tyo fight on his home territory - let the other guy put up with the bombings and artillery and all the crap! NOT HERE should be tattooed on the foreheads of every idiot LIE-beral in the country!

AS for your POOR serviceand that of your family- so what! Two members of omy family- one a captain and the other a corporal both climbed Vimy Ridge in 1917- both started out as very green private soldiers- with last man standing getting those promotions. In those ugly days, casualties were so high a guy who survived 6-8 weeks without a scratch qualified as a serious combat vet!

And in the younger generation we had an artillery man at Carpiquet- 12th SS panzer division was defending the VITAL airfield and Cdn 4th armoured took it from them- 12th SS took 24,000 men into the fight- with 107 survivors and NO PRISONERS on either side! You could drop your gun and put your hands up- but it MADE YOU A BETTER TARGET!

ONly a FOOL WANTS to be a soldier- and ONLY A BIGGER FOOL wants to risk having the fight COME HERE!

OH- Wait- ITS ALREADY HERE! Just calculate the number of dead in Muslim atrocities in North America since 9/11!

And since when does a soldier defend LIE-berals anyway? They have broken their promise of a pension for injured soldiers- just one more LIE-beral promise!

And why defend LIE-beral military values anyway? Your great leader Mackenzie King actually MET- one on one with Adolf Hitler in 1936 and came back to Canada to tell us that "Hitler was a dour but basically good man bringing some much needed hope and discipline to the German people- and he went on to say that Winston Churchill was a war monger"! Such fine judgement these LIE-berals have as Our idiot Boy Justin is just as much of an appeaser as King or Neville Chamberlain!

A whole lot of Cdns had to fight and bleed fighting against trained Nazi professionals thanks to King! Cdns got rushed off with lousy training and crap weapons because King and his LIE-berals refused to recognize the threat until too late!

And there was just as much debate about hate directed against Nazis as there is against radical Muslims!
 

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Back on topic........


'Dose as small as a grain of sand can kill you': alarm after Canada carfentanil bust

t was a carbon monoxide alarm that brought the Canadian authorities to the house in Liatris Drive, a quiet residential street lined with manicured gardens. As firefighters checked over the house to ensure its inhabitants were safe, something else caught their eye: kilograms of a mysterious powder sitting in the basement.

Soon afterwards, the police arrived at the house in Pickering, near Toronto, with a search warrant. They seized 33 identical handguns – and 53kg of the unidentified white and yellow powder.

Lab tests eventually revealed 42kg of the substance to be carfentanil – a drug the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) has described as “crazy dangerous” and which authorities in the US have flagged as as potential chemical weapon. The local police force had unwittingly stumbled across what is believed to be the largest volume of the opioid ever seized in North America.

Developed in the 1970s as a tranquilizer for large animals such as elephants and bears, the synthetic opioid has also been studied as a potential chemical weapon by countries including the US, China and Israel. It is thought to have been deployed with disastrous effects when Russian special forces attempted to rescue hundreds of hostages from a Moscow theatre in 2002.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...angers?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
 

Tecumsehsbones

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So, what's up here? Used to be drug dealers actually worked fairly hard to keep their customers alive as long as possible: carefully cutting the drugs, exercising a certain amount of control over how much a customer bought, sometimes even giving their junkies money for food, clothing, or shelter in bad times, knowing it would come back to them with interest.

Nowadays, they're selling one-shot poison. Where's the repeat business?

Are dealers just getting dumber, or is the volume of junkies so great that they don't have to worry about customer loyalty (or pulse) anymore?
 

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So, what's up here? Used to be drug dealers actually worked fairly hard to keep their customers alive as long as possible: carefully cutting the drugs, exercising a certain amount of control over how much a customer bought, sometimes even giving their junkies money for food, clothing, or shelter in bad times, knowing it would come back to them with interest.

Nowadays, they're selling one-shot poison. Where's the repeat business?

Are dealers just getting dumber, or is the volume of junkies so great that they don't have to worry about customer loyalty (or pulse) anymore?

Or maybe your recollection of how things used to be is a little faulty?
 

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Sir, I will have you know that I have a pornographic memory!
Here is an article illustrating yet again that some people simply do not understand how to behave around cops- with the added bonus that idiot LIE-berals
have so gutted our legal system that some idiots do not understand what their rights really are! Along with some comments of my own in brackets):

Ex-Miss Kentucky USA, who allegedly smuggled balloon of pot into jail, fights prison search before arrest.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. First posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 03:16 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 13, 2017 04:20 PM EDT

Kia Hampton is seen in an undated police mug shot and in file photo in 2011 when she was Miss Kentucky USA. (Allen County Sheriff's Office/HO//Stephen Cohen/Getty Images for Longines)

LIMA, Ohio — A former Miss Kentucky USA who’s accused of smuggling marijuana into an Ohio prison shouldn’t have been pulled aside and searched by guards, her attorney told a judge.

(LIE-berals can speak the most amazing CRAP with a straight face!)

The attorney for 28-year-old Kia Hampton of Louisville, Ky., argued Thursday that authorities shouldn’t have been given a warrant that allowed a strip search.

Authorities say Hampton was found with a balloon filled with marijuana while she was trying to visit an inmate at the Allen-Oakwood Correctional Institution in late May.

(Gosh- in spite of reports that drugs are easier to get in jail than on the street- cops still insist on searching knuckleheads for drugs? But they ONLY do it for serious criminals! Here is a verified story from a taxi driver that dates back to when the Whitby jail was still operating. Picture it- its 20 minutes before midnight on a Sunday and a goof gets in a taxi and first thing he asks is “where can I get some good crack”?

(Driver is now worried he is going to get stuck with the tab cause idiot is saving his money for drugs and driver makes plans to dump the guy out at some handy location. But goof checks the time and says “never mind, I better get back to the Whitby jail- I have to be there before midnight”!)

(Driver is rather startled that goof would show up at jail with a pocket full of crack and wonders if goof is not worried? Goof says “no, we are on the honour system. The jail is over crowded with troublesome drunks and assault cases on weekends- so they let us others who have already been processed, go home for the weekend with a promise to come back before midnight Sunday! No searches involved as long as we show up on time to be re-admitted”!)

(So- with the LIE-beral judges plea bargaining anything and everything down to very little. With LIE-beral judges whittling away at sentences- shorter all the time and ever increasing excuses to let thugs out early to save on govt gravy. With LIE-beral judges offering `concurrent sentences`- meaning you do one crime that nets 3 years, a second crime that nets 18 months and a third crime that nets 2 years- and it ought to add up to five and a half years- but NO- its LIE-beral math! You get hit with THREE YEARS- you committed THREE SEPARATE crimes but are serving all three sentences AT THE SAME TIME- but there is only one of you in jail!)

( With the added bonus that LIE-berals will release you after serving one third of your concurrent sentence just so long as you don’t stab anybody while doing you pathetic bit of time! Meaning your five and a half year set of crimes and jail time will be FINISHED and forgotten in a YEAR! And LIE-berals will find it hard to understand why we have contempt for their version of justice?)

Hampton, who won the Miss Kentucky USA pageant in 2010, was served a search warrant upon arriving at the prison for an inmate visit.

She was talking with guards in a separate room when they spotted a balloon filled with three grams of marijuana on the floor near her feet, said Shawn Wakefield, a prison investigator. Hampton said she had taken the marijuana out of the waistband of her pants and shoved it into her pants leg, Wakefield testified.

(She admits the drugs were hers? And wonders why she is in trouble? And cannot understand why they strip searched her to see what else she might be holding?)

Female guards then conducted a strip search but did not find any other drugs, The Lima News reported.

A state trooper said authorities asked for the search warrant after listening to phone calls that led them to believe Hampton planned to smuggle drugs to an inmate.

(So they have evidence other than just the baggie of weed? And would be curious and legally ENTITLED to see what else she might be carrying?)

Hampton was planning to visit the inmate who is serving a four-year sentence for drug trafficking. Prison authorities said Thursday that Hampton had made regular visits to the inmate, sometimes up to three per month.

(WHAT? A drug addled drug mule supplying a drug dealer? In a jail? Who thinks of these things? Certainly NOT any LIE-beral!)

The third-degree felony charge of bringing drugs onto government facility grounds carries a maximum three-year prison sentence upon conviction.

(And the silly cow will end up with probation- after its all plea bargained and the LIE-beral judge gets tired of hearing her and her lawyer WHINE! And she will STILL be whining to LIE-berals that female cops searched her!)
 

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Uh-huh. Sure thing. Go have another bowl of paint chips.


You are still ducking the question little T-gurly! Since you have no answer- why dont you ponder this instead:

Officials declare state of emergency over drug crisis on Stoney Nakoda First Nation.

By Michele Jarvie, Postmedia. First posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 07:10 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:26 AM EDT

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

Topic: The opioid crisis. The three First Nations bands near Morley are in a crisis situation over extremely high rates of prescription drug addictions and overdoses among members. With addiction rates surging as high as 60% among adult members of the reserve, Stoney Nakoda has declared a state of emergency.

(How can people be referred to as a `nation` when the `national` income is almost entirely welfare money sent over from another `nation`?)

“We had something like 139 deaths attributed to opiates within a two-year period on the nation,” said Lindsay Blackett, CEO of the Chiniki band, one of three that comprise Stoney Nakoda. “There’s only 6,000 people on the whole reserve so that’s a significant number vis-à-vis the population.”

He said fentanyl is the No. 1 culprit on the reserve — the same deadly drug that is devastating communities across Canada. More than 270 Albertans died from fentanyl overdoses last year with at least 20 deaths on the southern Blood Reserve alone since the summer of 2014.

A prescription painkiller, fentanyl is up to 100 times more potent than morphine and is often passed off as a new form of OxyContin. “A lot of people are abusing it. And once you’re hooked, that’s a jealous mistress. Once it hooks you, it wrecks your life,” said Blackett.

“It’s not a reflection on one particular community. It’s not like we’re the only ones dealing with it. It’s widespread and not just in the native population. It’s just more pronounced in the native population.” Blackett noted the opiate crisis is just part of a larger drug and alcohol challenge being faced on the reserve.

Health Canada officials say they have been working with First Nations’ chiefs and administration and the Alberta government to support the communities and address complex issues of mental illness and suicide, addictions, chronic disease and improve access to quality health care.

(There is no practical way to improve access to health care on tiny reserves when Ontari-owe LIE-berals are closing hospitals in moderate sized CITIES! And LIE-berals were caught lying about how many hospitals were actually closed! But not to worry- the money saved was spent on Muslim `invaders` crossing our borders!)

On June 17, federal Health Minister Jane Philpott announced new actions to address opioid misuse, which includes better prescribing practices and treatment options, reducing easy access to unnecessary opioids and improving the national evidence base.

Health Canada funds $86 million annually for addictions support for First Nations and Inuit communities through the National Native Alcohol and Drug Abuse Program and the National Youth Solvent Abuse Program. Through these programs, a network of 43 treatment centres is supported, as well as drug and alcohol prevention services in the majority of First Nations and Inuit communities.

Alberta Health Minister Sarah Hoffman says the province has been working with First Nations on responding to the fentanyl crisis, with addictions treatment and education. Government officials are also sharing electronic data to help First Nations roll out immunization programs.

(What does child immunization have to do with adults being a drugged up mess?)

“We know that First Nations peoples are struggling with higher rates of diabetes, addictions and poverty — all of which contribute to poorer health outcomes.”

(Drugged up addicts just don’t have a proper work ethic! Perhaps LIE-berals can somehow BUY it for them?)

The high number of addicted adults on the Morley-area reserve is anecdotal at best as actual numbers are not known. Prescription opioid addiction numbers are not tracked, nor are deaths unless they are related to fentanyl — a drug that appeared on the streets in 2012 and has become the single-largest public health threat in Alberta.

(I say this lack of `numbers` indicates that some activists and poverty pimps DON’T WANT to `find` the numbers. Some appear worried that respect for natives will plummet if the extent of their addictions and troubles are fully known. Others appear concerned that full disclosure of troubles will result in White Govt taking away much of the power and authority of band councils and imposing decisions on bands in order to force more responsible govt into place-a course of action that IS desperately needed!)

(The spectacle of Atiwapiskat Chief Teresa Spence refusing to discuss how she and her political allies burned through ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS of govt money in five years without using a penny to build the housing that the cash was earmarked for-AND without being able to show a single receipt for all that cash-while band members lived in tents and shacks in the Arctic winter is a thing that leaves a BAD TASTE in the mouths of many Cdn tax payers!)

“We really do a poor job on surveillance of opioid overdose deaths and that’s a good way to measure addictions,” said Alberta addictions specialist Hakique Virani. “We don’t count it unless it’s fentanyl. Until we do that, we don’t have a handle on numbers.”

Virani was not surprised by the suggestion that 50 to 60% of Stoney Nakoda residents are prescription addicts. In fact, he suspects the number is higher in the adult population.

Asked how people can repeatedly get drugs prescribed, sometimes for years at a time, Virani said it often happens because no one asks questions. Or they’re ill-equipped to deal with the fallout.

(Or perhaps some drug company sales people and doctors are simply committing criminal acts by supplying drugged up natives and profiting nicely from it?)

“The patient may not even be complaining of anything wrong. When doctors inherit patients with prescription addictions, often they’ll just perpetually refill it because there may not be any complaint of side-effects.

(Or are some doctors being THREATENED if they do not refill the prescriptions? Doctors are sworn to “do no harm” and simply handing out drugs with no questions asked sounds a lot like harm and blackmail to me!)

“Even if they are demonstrating signs of dependency, would the best thing be to cut them off? No,” said Virani, who treats patients at an Edmonton methadone clinic and teaches at the University of Alberta. He has been critical of the government’s handling of the fentanyl drug crisis.

(What? Cutting off the supply of a dangerous drug is a BAD thing? How?)

“It’s a difficult dilemma. It is dangerous to keep prescribing but in the absence of safe and effective treatment for dependency, what do you do?”

(Its especially difficult to treat people who insist on staying in the same miserable, corrupt conditions that originally persuaded them to chemically alter their mood!)

Treatment for prescription opiate drug addiction includes stabilizing patients with other long-acting medications such as methadone or Suboxone. Counseling for underlying issues is also needed or more advanced therapy for psychiatric or psychological trauma.

(But of course there is no such handy stabilization option on benighted reserves!)

But methadone and Suboxone can be dangerous medications so use of them requires following monitoring protocols, which can be difficult to do in remote areas or First Nations reserves with limited access to health clinics and doctors.

“It’s unfortunately not a unique situation for First Nations in Alberta, it’s not a unique situation for some towns in Alberta. An entire provincial problem is poor access to treatment. And it’s not changing near fast enough.”

Virani said Alberta needs to rethink how local practitioners are supported. He pointed to a project that is working well in Slave Lake, where the province partnered with First Nations bands to provide telemedicine in co-operation with practitioners on site.

(One obvious obstacle to such a solution is GETTING practitioners on site! Natives who have the drive and determination to BECOME practitioners often are reluctant to return to the mess they worked so hard to escape! And they certainly would not want to bring their children to live in such an isolated and messed up place! If past news reports are correct then it is often unsafe for even armed police officers after dark in the worst off reserves in times of crisis!)

“If we’re creative and committed to addressing this problem, we can do it. Until we accept it’s a public health emergency, we’ll continue to bail out a sinking ship with a spoon.”