How can we get rid of our sinfulness?
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Geeeeeeez. Cultist mentality. multiple personality disorder, god complex, dementia: I really do feel sorry for you.
No. What mary wrote:
Originally Posted by marygaspe
Waste of time, he'll only spend twenty minutes writing a revolving post laced with Bible quotes which, in essence, will say that you, me, The Pope, the entire clergy of all the denominations on the planet, and possibly even the Dhali Lhama does not posses the spiritual wisdom as him because he added up all the numbers in the Bible and they added up to AJ is as good as it gets!
And your reply:
You saw an attack, I saw sympathy.
Why should you? I am at peace with my God! I am not perplexed in any way.
I know who my Savior is, and I am persuaded that He is able to save me till my very last day on earth.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us (AJ) from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Twisting the word around huh? Well, it is evident that I have been attacked by some. I won't mention any names.
After all, the number of folks reading this thread are making their own minds as to who is attacking who.
But that is expected as my views go counter to what some believe. So, they rely to personal attacks because they know that they can not defeat the power of Christs love.
If I failed Christ, then I should be as like my attackers.
But as of Yet, I have not attacked any one personally. I have questioned their beliefs, but condemned them not.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Nobody is displaying hate towards you. That is your arrogance again. Many of us are trying very hard to show you how lost you are in errors and false doctrines.
That is not what csanopal said, that salvation was of the Jews. He said that prior to Christ that was where the faith existed, then went on to indicate Christ was salvation.
Today's pluralistic and godless society creates an environment of indifference in matters of religion in order to achieve a false and empty unity and liberty. It is said that everyone must be allowed to believe as they see fit and do what makes them happy. The implication is that God is not very concerned about whether one believes in what is true, for all will be saved as long as they are "nice." Some come to this conclusion by asserting that there does not exist any objective truth for us to adhere to, which in turn leads to a denial of the existence of God. Others say that there exist only a few basic objective truths that we need to believe in order to be saved. Both opinions miss the plain reality of the order established by God – one must believe all and everything that the Catholic Church teaches to be saved.
This assertion implies that all non-Catholic religions are false, that only the Catholic Church contains the entire deposit of Truth given to the Apostles by Christ, and that this entire deposit – not a majority of it or a part of it – is necessary for salvation. Although these truths are denied and scorned by today's world, they are fully in accord with common sense and the constant teaching of the Church. Christ gave to the Apostles the entire deposit of faith ("The Holy Ghost will teach you all things" John 14:26), told them to pass it on to the world ("Going therefore, teach ye all nations" Matt. 28:19), and threatened damnation for those who did not believe them ("He who believes not will be condemned" Mark 16:16). He would not have condemned to hell the disbelievers if either it was not important to believe all that the Apostles taught or if He was not certain that the Apostles were teaching the truth ("He that heareth you heareth Me" Luke 10:16). The Apostles themselves knew that all who believed in any way different from their infallible teaching would perish – "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema" (Gal. 1:8).
It is certainly through the Catholic Church that Our Lord has guided men to keep the deposit entrusted to the Apostles throughout the centuries. It is the Catholic Church that defeated the many heresies against the nature and person of Christ, long before Protestant denominations appeared, such as Arianism, Monophysitism, Monothelitism, Nestorianism, Pelagianism, Apollonarism, etc.. – all of these had to be opposed vigorously with the true doctrine before they were extirpated, and some still exist today. It is the Catholic Church that holds to the same doctrines that the Fathers, who had the words of the Apostles "resounding in their ears", taught and defended and which all but the schismatics reject today – auricular confession, veneration of images, the Real Presence in the Eucharist, the existence of seven sacraments, the Church as the final arbiter of all doctrinal disputes, and many more. It is only the Catholic Church that has not changed and it is only She that has existed since the time of Christ.
The greatest act of charity that one can perform is to bring others to the truth. The Catholic Faith is a gift from God, one that can be shared, one that gives life and salvation. Mother Church, being solicitous for the welfare of all mankind, has always sought to bring all into the One Fold (John 10:16), and to unite all in the profession of the one Faith given to us by Christ through the Apostles. If She were to hide the truth, or be content to leave others in their error, She would be cruel and indifferent.
You avoid answering direct questions, haven't you ntoiced that? Did you, or did you not, state that you were more spiritually advanced than the rest of us?
It is not the point of referencing the Bible. How do you know Mary does not know the Bible as well as you do? The point is, a five mile long series of Bible quotes proves nothing.
Thankfully, though you are correct in that Holy Mother Church is the fullness of the faith, God is more merciful then some of His followers
Thankfully, though you are correct in that Holy Mother Church is the fullness of the faith, God is more merciful then some of His followers
Are you outright stating that people can find salvation outside of the Church?
What I believe is in accordance to what Jesus thought. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
I claim that verse therefore, I am became a son of God. Is there something else I am missing?
Heb 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
I am that house and Christ is over me, the owner and Lord of that house.
This even gets better and more exiting read: Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
I am an heir of God through His Son Jesus Christ my Lord. It don’t get no better than that.
Listen folks, because I am not a member of the Catholic Church, I am condemned.
If Christ condemns me not by His own words because I believe in Him, than why am I being condemned for not conforming to a religion that man thinks is my salvation?
Would I rather not believe on Him who does the actual saving or believe in the church who thinks that that is how I should be saved?
If the Catholic Church is what gets you close to God, than by all means stay with her.
I need nothing but Christ and His two commandments. For all of the commandments are contained in those two.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
I love because He loved. What other practice is there to do?
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
It is evident by her and others responses to my views.
Take as an example a mechanic. A mechanic knows the engine of a car like he knows the back of his hand. When someone else claims to know the same engine can be noticed by just talking to a mechanic.
The mechanic will be able to tell just how much this other person knows and understands about the engine.
The mechanic does not condemn the someone because of lack of knowledge, but rather exercises compassion for the lack of it.
I am nobody special other than one who has been given knowledge through experience and study of the word of God, the bible, and instructed (Guided) by the Holy Spirit to understand what I sought for.
And God has been gracious to me, so that I love Him for it.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Buzzzzzz beeeeeeeeep, wrong,the church is the message and community not the buildings commonly confused with churchs.:wave:
Even as a non-Catholic, I can see holes as wide as the ocean in what you just wrote! Using your own example, you fail to convince. Take Sanctus for example. He is a priest. His field of expertise is not only the Catholic church, but the bible. Like a mechanic, he has been schooled and trained in just these things. By your own example, you therefore are no authority on these matters, and he is.
Dosen't "church" actually refer to the people, not the building they worship in?