How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

look3467

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mapleleafgirl said:
so, a big question, but aj what is "normal"? who decides what is normal and not normal?
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Here is the definition of abnormal, decide for yourdelf: Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

If you are in the body, which is Christ, then you are not of this world, for your heart is after God and not self!

This is the way it was before Christ. The money changers tables were turned up-side down, by Christ:

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

That verse is talking about us, Gentiles. But Jesus has turned the money changers tables,(by the way means those using the church to make money) and alienated Israel and made us a friend of Jesus, now having, as the verse says: covenants of promise and hope with God.

A complete reversal, that is why the Jewish nation denied Jesus, because by their denial, salvation was extended to the Gentile world.

It's all there, study the bible, ask questions. If your heart truly seeks God, He will not lead you astray.

Peace>>>AJ :love9:
 
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mapleleafgirl said:
for sure! i like your word, and its true. i see it all the time..people just do what theyre told and never ask why. i always get in hassles cos i always ask why.maybe i ask too may questions? dont care though, if you wanna make me believe in something you better tell me why and what its all about first.
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Ask away: Maple.
If I can x-plain something of value to you, then by all means ask.
No question is to insignificant.
If you wish PM me for a private conversation on any questions. Be advised though, I use scripture to reference from.
But what church doesn't?

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
 
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look3467 said:
Ask away: Maple.
If I can x-plain something of value to you, then by all means ask.
No question is to insignificant.
If you wish PM me for a private conversation on any questions. Be advised though, I use scripture to reference from.
But what church doesn't?

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
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i dont know aj..i asked one question about a million times and not once did you answer it.but ayway, i thought you didnt belong to a church? isnt that what you wrote before?

and another thing that bothers me, how do i know what standards you use?at least with sanctus he has doctrines from god and stuff/
 
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look3467 said:
Here is the definition of abnormal, decide for yourdelf: Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

If you are in the body, which is Christ, then you are not of this world, for your heart is after God and not self!

This is the way it was before Christ. The money changers tables were turned up-side down, by Christ:

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

That verse is talking about us, Gentiles. But Jesus has turned the money changers tables,(by the way means those using the church to make money) and alienated Israel and made us a friend of Jesus, now having, as the verse says: covenants of promise and hope with God.

A complete reversal, that is why the Jewish nation denied Jesus, because by their denial, salvation was extended to the Gentile world.

It's all there, study the bible, ask questions. If your heart truly seeks God, He will not lead you astray.

Peace>>>AJ :love9:
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okay, you gotta put that bible away sometimes dude. that wasnt at all what i meant/ i was talking about society and what it defines as normal and abnormal. you said to gilbert he was normal and i wanted to know what defined being normal. not once did i ask you what some guy wrote jesus said about israel or whatever.
 
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With all due respect to you Sanctus, but I have been saying for the length of time I've been here that the Holy Spirit is our teacher. I gave references to that from His word, the bible.
If we do not reference the Holy Scriptures, Gods words to us, and trust Jesus who fulfilled every word in there, how then can we trust anything else which is not Holy and inspired?

And if God gives us promises, which by the way, are many, why not trust in them, as God changes not, for He is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.

If I were going to trust with my life's soul in anything in this world, it surely wouldn't be on anything "from" this world, but rather from the heavenly world, where "life" is and will continue to exist efinitely.

The message is so simple..........really,........but, we'd rather trust in mans doctrines, which by the way are very complicated.

Mankind's doctrines require us to "do" something physical to gain God, and God only requires a transformation of the heart, by the way, it is a spiritual transformation of the heart!

Why suppose that God is not a respecter of persons? Because it doesn't matter who you are, believer and or unbeliever alike.

He has concluded "all" in unbelief! So, take it from there!

Peace>>>AJ

P.S. TO moderator, please put the heart back in the smiles box, thanks...AJ
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but again, for the eight millionth time aj, without some sort of standad to go by how do you know what you think is the holy spirit is really him or her?there are so many different things written and everybody disagrees and they all say the holy spirit told them the truth. cant allbe right, can they?

one thing i like about the catholics in my studying is they hold to a common thing and dont like ther people to go off on their own.makes a hell of a lot of sense to me. you gotta have some teachers who know how to guide you in anything.
 
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no idea why it's called a rosary. There are prayers which the catholics say as penance. there's one known as "hail mary". For instance during confession a preist might ask you to do penance for one of your sins by repeating the "hail mary" prayer 20 times.

This is what i think I know from TV, so it might be very wrong.
 
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hermanntrude said:
no idea why it's called a rosary. There are prayers which the catholics say as penance. there's one known as "hail mary". For instance during confession a preist might ask you to do penance for one of your sins by repeating the "hail mary" prayer 20 times.

This is what i think I know from TV, so it might be very wrong.
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okay thanks. sanctus will know for sure, im hoping and hopeflly hell explain it to me.
 
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hermanntrude said:
no idea why it's called a rosary. g.
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A rosary or rosarium was quite simply a rose garden. Roses had religious significance in ancient Greece and Egypt, but Roman excesses with the use of roses caused these flowers to fall out of favour. Even during the Dark Ages, though, roses had been kept and studied, but did not return to favour until the rose was linked to Mary. The rose became the symbol of joy and Mary was sometimes referred to as the Mystical Rose. Early Christians adopted a practice of using beads as an aid in prayers and meditations. A string of 150 beads helped monks keep track of their daily recitation of the Psalms. During the Middle Ages, monasteries were the seats of education and the practice of herbal medicine. Monasteries were also the location of most rose gardens—the monks had the time to tend the rose bushes and the garden provided a place of meditation and prayer. The strings of beads were made of anything that would serve the purpose—stones, rose hips, rosebuds, seeds, and wood.
Somewhere, someone discovered that rose petals could be used to make beads. It may have been a medicinal recipe gone awry or they may have had their origins in ancient Rome when many foods included rose petals. But rose beads often retain their fragrance and the crafting of rose beads may have been an uplifting experience. Roses, rosariums, and memory stimulated by fragrance, rose beads became one of the methods that helped people remember their prayers and the simple string of beads became the rosary.
 
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mapleleafgirl said:
the rosary are the beads right? hw would you say them and what do they do for you if you do?
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In recent times the Mother of God has appeared in various parts of the world and asked for the recitation of the Rosary, the prayer she gave to the world centuries ago. It is her favourite prayer for it is essentially a meditation on the life of her Divine Son. The Rosary is a combination of vocal prayer (the Our Fathers & Hail Marys) and of mental prayer, namely, reflection on important events in the life of Christ and His Mother.
When one refers to the Rosary, it is usually understood to mean five decades, or one third of the entire Rosary. While many Catholics pray five decades of the Rosary each day, there is a considerable number who pray the fifteen decades daily.
 
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mapleleafgirl said:
okay thanks. sanctus will know for sure, im hoping and hopeflly hell explain it to me.
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Doing it now instead of later:)

 The Rosary is a very blessed prayer. Saying the Rosary has helped thousands around the world. Catholics should pray the Rosary daily.
Difficulty: N/A
Time Required: 20 minutes
Here's How:
  1. Make the sign of the cross and recite the Apostle's Creed.
  2. Say the prayer the Our Father.
  3. Say three Hail Mary's.
  4. Say the Glory Be to the Father.

  5. Depending on the day, see step 11, announce the First Mystery then say Our Father.
  6. Say ten Hail Mary's while meditating on the mystery.
  7. Say the Glory Be to the Father.
  8. Announce the Second Mystery; then say the "Our Father." Repeat steps 6 and 7 and continue with Third, Fourth and Fifth Mysteries in the same manner.
  9. After you say the Rosary, recite the Hail Holy Queen.
  10. After each decade say the following prayer requested by the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima: "O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those who have most need of your mercy."
  11. As suggested by the Holy Father the Joyful mysteries are said on Monday, Thursday and Saturday
  12. The Sorrowful on Tuesday and Friday, and the Glorious on Wednesday and Sunday (with this exception: Sundays of Christmas season - The Joyful; Sundays of Lent - Sorrowful)
 
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mapleleafgirl said:
i don't know aj..i asked one question about a million times and not once did you answer it.but anyway, i thought you didn't belong to a church? isn't that what you wrote before?

and another thing that bothers me, how do i know what standards you use?at least with Sanctus he has doctrines from God and stuff/
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Question one: answers were given luv, but you did not pick up on them, and second, I have no standards!

Wait ah minute you said, "No Standard"? Absolutely! There are two commandments set forth by Jesus, and you should know them without me having to list them.

Within those two lie all the standards you need.

Just look at them for a second. Number one: Love God with all thine heart, mind and soul, right?

If you do that, then the second one is easy, which is: Love thy neighbor as thy self;

Now, you tell me, what standard other than man made standard do I need, to comply with what God has given me?

It's that simple luv, not a complicated man made set of rules, regulations or limitations.

There, those are my answers, and dear, they comply straight forward with the word of God.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
 
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look 3467, i'd be interested to know your opinion on the following. I know what sanctus's'd be.

What if i didnt love God, because I am weak of faith and strong on experimental science? but still acted as a good person should? what will happen to me in your opinion?
 
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