How can we get rid of our sinfulness?
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You know what, I don't disagree with this statement at all. Most people are rather like sheep, never questioning anything, just buying into something without testing it for themselves. It may surprise you to read that I advise everyone to challenge and question their faith before just accepting the story, so to speak. Mind you, what is evidence for me is probably not evidence for you, but the point is the same. I like the word "sheeple", think I'll "borrow" it from you
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Exactly. you paint an extreme example, but the point is still valid. For people new to the faith, it is highly suggested that you meet with spiritual leaders to guide you on the path. If you were left to your own devices you mgiht not even understand what you were reading or how it is applicable to the faith. It is always a good idea to join a Bible study. Many parishes offer them. If you are sincere in this quest, check out your local parish and see about joining a Bible study. It is never a good idea to study the Bible alone.
Respectfully written, but Aj, I think that is possibly the worst advice to give a person interested in the Bible. Without guidance and support, all sorts of erroneous ideas can surface from studying the Scriptures unsupported by the Church.
The wisdom of youth! How accurate! It is a question not only ignored often by our friend AJ, but most protestants who refuse to consider the possibility that there cannot be a variety of "churches" all speaking for God. It weakens the message considerably and invites heresy and fasle doctrine. God did give us a Church, but some men have chosen to disregard her. They are more interested in pleasing themselves then God.
well thats what im trying to say. how can i just read a bible by myself if i dont know anything about it. it dosent make sense. how come every other field needs a person to be trained but not religion?how would i be able to know the real deal compared to what i make up?what you said abut the church guarding the bible and its meaing makes good sense.
wouldnt i have to be catholic to go to a bible study there? anyway, say i wanted to join the catholic church, what would i do? just starting going to their masses? why wont they give me communion by the way. you never said. i went to a mass with my catholic friend last sunday and they wouldnt give me communion. whats up with that?
hey thanks self. i just hear so much about channeling it sounds interesting. dont know if i buy it tough. are you sure its not self suggestion?
for sure! i like your word, and its true. i see it all the time..people just do what theyre told and never ask why. i always get in hassles cos i always ask why.maybe i ask too may questions? dont care though, if you wanna make me believe in something you better tell me why and what its all about first.
so, a big question, but aj what is "normal"? who decides what is normal and not normal?
just have a question about chanting that has been going through my mind.
and after reading something the other day in autobiography of a yogi.
when you chant is quantity or quality important, or both or is it indifferent? is chanting anti-christian and therefore a sin?
and after reading something the other day in autobiography of a yogi.
when you chant is quantity or quality important, or both or is it indifferent? is chanting anti-christian and therefore a sin?
I guess it depends on what sort of chanting you are doing. Christians, for example, have been saying the Rosary for centuries and that is sort of chanting/meditation.
Which do you prefer: praying the Rosary aloud with others or alone? The reason I ask is because on Saturdays and sometimes on Sunday mornings, someone leads us in a Rosary before Mass, though you do not have to participate, of course. I find it distracting and very hard to concentrate on the mysteries and prayers this way. Don't get me wrong. I love our Lady's Rosary. I just would prefer the church to be in silence before Mass, so I can say my own prayers or just sit there quietly. I do, sometimes, like praying the Rosary with others, just not before Mass.
According to the CCC 2705-2706
Catholic "Meditation is above all a quest. The mind seeks to understand the why and how of the Christian life, in order to adhere and respond to what the Lord is asking ... To the extent that we are humble and faithful. We discover in meditation the movements that stir the heart and we are able to discern them. It is a question of acting truthfully in order to come into the light: "Lord what do you want me to do?"
It's a bit vague: While the CCC describes what Catholic meditation is, it does not teach 'how' to do it.
Since Buddhism actually teaches 'how' to meditate (resulting in a measured increase of alpha waves), then does anyone know the Catholic method of meditation?
One of the nasty parts of things like channeling, and other "new age" spiritual practices is that there really IS a spiritual world, and a spiritual reality, and all parts of them are not benevolent. Although it is not good to dwell on to the point of distraction, neither is it good to forget that the enemy, and his minions, are fallen angels. These are not beings we should allow to have their way with us.
Sorry brothers and sista's, not....................... going to happen!
As long as your in the flesh, it is not going to happen but wait...........................
There is yet salvation!
And that is what we are all struggling to grasp. Otherwise, why be here talking about this subject?
There is a body that is sinless! If you belong to that body, guess what? Your sinless!
That body, of course, cannot sin, because it is not flesh: does not contain blood.
It is a spiritual body, and that body being the bloodless resurrected body of Christ.
This is the "Abnormal" that the "Normal " cannot see!
Normal is of the earth, the abnormal is spiritual.
One verse, if you please: 1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Talking about the Christ yes? And also about us, in His body we are raised spiritually, while yet alive in the flesh.
Hence: Born again.
But of course many can not "see" it that way. Well.....................that's too bad.
Could be enjoying heaven on earth.........................right now, if you wanted.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
With all due respect to you Sanctus, but I have been saying for the length of time I've been here that the Holy Spirit is our teacher. I gave references to that from His word, the bible.
If we do not reference the Holy Scriptures, Gods words to us, and trust Jesus who fulfilled every word in there, how then can we trust anything else which is not Holy and inspired?
And if God gives us promises, which by the way, are many, why not trust in them, as God changes not, for He is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.
If I were going to trust with my life's soul in anything in this world, it surely wouldn't be on anything "from" this world, but rather from the heavenly world, where "life" is and will continue to exist efinitely.
The message is so simple..........really,........but, we'd rather trust in mans doctrines, which by the way are very complicated.
Mankind's doctrines require us to "do" something physical to gain God, and God only requires a transformation of the heart, by the way, it is a spiritual transformation of the heart!
Why suppose that God is not a respecter of persons? Because it doesn't matter who you are, believer and or unbeliever alike.
He has concluded "all" in unbelief! So, take it from there!
Peace>>>AJ
P.S. TO moderator, please put the heart back in the smiles box, thanks...AJ