How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

[look3467]

Yes I found it to be in the same lines as the rest also. Mary was quite a woman I admire her greatly. She loved a man that she could never have, I can relate to that.

OOOOOOOOOH! But [FONT=&quot]Contraire[/FONT], love, Jesus is all yours for the asking!
He is the groom and you dear, are His bride.
And He is washing you as white as snow,and making you ready to join Him.

Check this out:

Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Can you believe that! Blessed be our Lord that taketh away the sins of the world.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[L Gilbert]

Quote:
Originally Posted by L Gilbert
"Why think ye ...."? Doth I looketh like Shakespeareth? I don't know, is that your picture I see at the top left hand corner of the post? I guess you could pass for Shakespeare.
Why would the tooth faerie be concerned about Cindarella's faerie godmother? Same issue; why would any fantasy be concerned about any other fantasy? But anyway, according to the myths in the bible, your god is jealous of any other god of which humans could make likenesses.(True)I would hardly think it'd be a concern for someone who is "all-powerful".(That's the mystery of Godliness) 'Twere me, I'd zap all the other gods n have done with it. Poof! (No doubt)No jealousy, no images or whatever of any other gods.
As an aside, I suppose that the folks who drew for comic books (drawings of Thor, Dormammu, Crom, etc.) are eternally damned.

NO, Not damned, but ignorant of the true God.

Peace>>>AJ

The mystery of godliness? roflmao More like stupidity. In the majority of issues, your god displays characteristics that are remarkably human and sometimes downright childish, and yet when caught in a booboo, he's a "mystery". That's really convenient, incredibly escapist, and entirely hilarious. roflmao

The comic book artists drew images of other gods, that's in direct defiance of one of the ten commandments and the bit in Exodus where it says the part about being a jealous god and they aren't damned for it, but only ignorant? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahhh

 

[look3467]

Have you read the gnostics? Theyre quite interesting.

http://www.gnosis.org/

Even if you read them just as very old literature I find them amazing and the story behind why they werent added is nothing more than what was popular at the time. What suited the "church" Gotta love that "church"

No, Tam, I haven't read them. But I can tell you right now, that with my understanding, I wouldn't have a problem with them.
You see, I know the truth.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[L Gilbert]

You see, I know the truth.

Yeah, me too.

 

[selfactivated]

No, Tam, I haven't read them. But I can tell you right now, that with my understanding, I wouldn't have a problem with them.
You see, I know the truth.

Peace>>>AJ

First off Love you cant convert this sinner Cause Im not a sinner I was taught by a very wise chief about the gnostic I was so angry at my daughters church I couldnt see straight (still am but I wont spill that one here its in a thread called Discrimination of Faith) well my sweet chief sent me these PBS tapes about it and I must admit I learned a great deal. These writings are as old as the gospels in the bible. They pretty much go along with whats there already BUT like Mary a great many were left out because it didnt teach what the "church" wanted their followers to know. Im sorry but thats wrong in my book.

And Mary could not have her Love in the way she truely wanted him. Again sad. We are creatures of the heart AJ and it is our nature to Love and create. I have a real hard time with a church that damns homosexuals but puts their nuns and priests in situations that are against what THEIR god set them on this earth to do........create.

To be quite honest its not your Jesus I have a problem with its his followers. I think Jesus was aa political pawn of his own choosing. I believe he was a kind teacher (rabi) I think when I meet him in the Summerlands we will have very heated discussions before I move on to my next incarnation. Because unlike the priests I know Jesus was compassionate, he was, kind and he cared about prositutes and kings. THATS someone I try to emulate everyday. THATS the kind of clergy I want to be. BUT even your Christ got angry at the Hypocrites. So do I. I see places like Jesus camps, holier than though evangilists and cold hearted priests and I get madder than Hell. These are the people that are sposed to guide our children? They dont even live up to their calling let alone guide MY child!

Im sorry I got long winded.

 

[look3467]

First off Love you cant convert this sinner Cause Im not a sinner I was taught by a very wise chief about the gnostic I was so angry at my daughters church I couldnt see straight (still am but I wont spill that one here its in a thread called Discrimination of Faith) well my sweet chief sent me these PBS tapes about it and I must admit I learned a great deal. These writings are as old as the gospels in the bible. They pretty much go along with whats there already BUT like Mary a great many were left out because it didnt teach what the "church" wanted their followers to know. Im sorry but thats wrong in my book.

And Mary could not have her Love in the way she truely wanted him. Again sad. We are creatures of the heart AJ and it is our nature to Love and create. I have a real hard time with a church that damns homosexuals but puts their nuns and priests in situations that are against what THEIR god set them on this earth to do........create.

To be quite honest its not your Jesus I have a problem with its his followers. I think Jesus was aa political pawn of his own choosing. I believe he was a kind teacher (rabi) I think when I meet him in the Summerlands we will have very heated discussions before I move on to my next incarnation. Because unlike the priests I know Jesus was compassionate, he was, kind and he cared about prositutes and kings. THATS someone I try to emulate everyday. THATS the kind of clergy I want to be. BUT even your Christ got angry at the Hypocrites. So do I. I see places like Jesus camps, holier than though evangilists and cold hearted priests and I get madder than Hell. These are the people that are sposed to guide our children? They dont even live up to their calling let alone guide MY child!

Im sorry I got long winded.

Quite all right Tam. Humanity is a sore witness for God and His goodness.

I can tell you this much, though, that I find in you to be a more rational thinker.

At least you give some credit to the divine.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[look3467]

Yeah, me too.

Good! Then we both know the truth............brother.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[selfactivated]

I had a councilor once that gave us all bracelets......WWJD what would jesus do. I still have it, I wore it 12 years

Its a thought. I need sleep lol

Blessings

 

[look3467]

I had a councilor once that gave us all bracelets......WWJD what would jesus do. I still have it, I wore it 12 years

Its a thought. I need sleep lol

Blessings

Sweet dreams!

Peace>>>AJ

 

[sanctus]

about some form of arbitrator for the bible like the catholic church so that each guy dosent come up with his own meanings.

They completely disregard the teaching of Our Lord when He said, "...and there shall be ONE FOLD and ONE SHEPHERD." John 10:16
There are over 38,000 individual non-Catholic sects in the world now, with more being added every day. With the advent of millions of potential 'customers' who are easily reached on-line, that number is expected to increase at an accelerated rate. This hurts the Christian cause, as it is satan's way to divide and conquer, and it is GOD's way to unite into one Church with one Shepherd. It is making Protestantism even more and more impotent.
The primary root cause of this is the false belief of individual interpretation of the Bible. Protestant churches cannot teach that they are the 'One True Church' which Jesus Christ founded because none of them can trace their origin back 2000 years to Jesus Christ when He founded His Church in Matt 16:18. If all Protestantism was united in the Holy Spirit, then how can you explain that Calvinists believe Baptism is a Sacrament, but Baptists do not? How do you explain that Lutherans say that Mary is the Mother of GOD, but Evangelicals say she is not? How do you explain that Pentecostals believe man has free will, yet Presbyterians deny it? You can go on and on through all 38,000 non-Catholic Christian sects and see differences of opinion as presented in this sampling.
If all Christian Churches taught the same thing then there would be only one Church, as there was for the first 1500 years of Christianity.
[SIZE=+1]In all of the above examples, the one side interprets the Bible this way, and the other side interprets it that way. "The simple fact of the matter is, that it is not possible to put together any selection of words in which some ingenious person may not find a meaning not meant by the writer of the verse." Frank Sheed.

"Only a public authority, divinely guided, can spell out without error, a public message divinely revealed." Fr. Pere Benoit...
The Pope, in accordance with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church, is the public authority, divinely guided, of which Fr. Benoit speaks.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]There are many Bible verses which tell us that individual interpretation of the Bible simply cannot be done without divine assistance...

Luke 24:45, "Then He opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures."
So it took Jesus Christ to open the minds of the Apostles so that they could teach others in the truth.
Do you believe likewise that Jesus Christ opened the minds of each of the leaders of all those 38,000 non-Catholic sects? If so, why is there so much disagreement between them?

Acts 8:27-40, the eunuch was trying to read Isaiah when Philip asked him, "Do you understand what you are reading?" But he said, "Why, how can I, unless someone shows me?"
Since Philip had been filled by the Holy Spirit in Acts 2:4, he was able to explain the truth of Isaiah to the eunuch.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]2Pet 1:20, St. Peter said, "This then you must understand first of all, that NO PROPHECY OF SCRIPTURE IS MADE BY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION." I do not see how Peter could have said it any plainer than he did here. Why do Protestants ignore verses such as this one?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]2Pet 3:16-17, St. Peter said, "...In these Epistles there are certain things difficult to understand, WHICH THE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE DISTORT, JUST AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES ALSO, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION. YOU THEREFORE, BRETHREN, SINCE YOU KNOW THIS BEFOREHAND, BE ON YOUR GUARD LEST, CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE FOOLISH, YOU FALL AWAY FROM YOUR STEADFASTNESS."
Here is a very clear warning that it is easy to fall into error by private interpretation of Scripture.
Who would you prefer to believe...
A group of thousands of learned Bishops with impeccable qualifications, and the Holy Spirit to guide them,
or some individuals interpretation of the Bible, who has questionable qualifications, and who does not have the truth of the Holy Spirit to guide him?[/SIZE]

 

[Toro]

Are you telling me Im dead?

I've had more than one woman tell me that I'm dead! haha!

 

[Toro]

Tam, if you had alittle knowledge about who Mary represents in the scheme of things, you'd be supprised or shocked.
Clue: wonder what it means when they say "mother earth"? Because of Eve? Mother of all living?
We,re talking flesh here.

Are you saying that the earth is only 6000 years old and you believe in the literal interpretation of Creation?

:shock:

 

[m_levesque]

Are you saying that the earth is only 6000 years old and you believe in the literal interpretation of Creation?

:shock:

That's what I think he is saying, unless we misunderstood his comments?

 

[Toro]

Just ask Him in the quietness of your heart, and He will answer.

Peace>>>AJ

I asked Him for forgiveness for all the lousy things I've ever done, and He said okay.

Then I asked if I'd be forgiven if I stole $100 million from my employer and wired it to a Cayman bank account, then leave my family for my hot 23 year old secretary, and He said all would be forgiven.

And that's why I'm a Christian.

 

[m_levesque]

everyday. THATS the kind of clergy I want to be. BUT even your Christ got angry at the Hypocrites. So do I. I see places like Jesus camps, holier than though evangilists and cold hearted priests and I get madder than Hell. These are the people that are sposed to guide our children? They dont even live up to their calling let alone guide MY child!

Im sorry I got long winded.

So you want the clergy of the Church to fit into a pattern that suits your expectations?

How would you know what their "calling" is anyway? What do you think they are called to do?

 

[m_levesque]

Tam, I don't randomly select verses, the ones I select are in concert with Gods will, that all mankind should be saved and that none should perish.
Peace>>>AJ

YES YOU DO!!!!The Catholic Church does not read Holy Scripture in a purely literalist manner as do some people but we are taught that the literal, historic sense must be presupposed. We are also taught that wherever the Fathers of the Church were in unanimous agreement upon a certain interpretation of Holy Scripture, then that is the true and lawful understanding that we are obliged to believe. In 1564 the Council of Trent, one of the Church’s most important Ecumenical Councils and to which the Catholic conscience is bound forever, dogmatically taught that

Furthermore in order to restrain petulant spirits, It decrees, that no one, relying on his own skill, shall - in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine - wresting the Sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said Sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which Holy Mother Church - whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the Holy Scriptures - hath held and doth hold; or even contrary to the unanimous consent of the Fathers.

 

[m_levesque]

Are you saying that the earth is only 6000 years old and you believe in the literal interpretation of Creation?

:shock:

"Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution. While the story of human origins is complex and subject to revision, physical anthropology and molecular biology combine to make a convincing case for the origin of the human species in Africa about 150,000 years ago in a humanoid population of common genetic lineage. However it is to be explained, the decisive factor in human origins was a continually increasing brain size, culminating in that of homo sapiens. With the development of the human brain, the nature and rate of evolution were permanently altered: with the introduction of the uniquely human factors of consciousness, intentionality, freedom and creativity, biological evolution was recast as social and cultural evolution." (From the International Theological Commission, headed by then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger now Pope Benedict XVI, statement "Communion and Stewardship: Human Persons Created in the Image of God," plenary sessions held in Rome 2000-2002, published July 2004)

 

[look3467]

A group of thousands of learned Bishops with impeccable qualifications, and the Holy Spirit to guide them,
or some individuals interpretation of the Bible, who has questionable qualifications, and who does not have the truth of the Holy Spirit to guide him?>>>Sanctus

Just goes to show, brother, that God is not limited to just a few.

When Jesus was here, He could only be with a few hundred at the most, due to not having a PA system, A TV broad casting station, or radio.
But look at who the Holy Spirit can reach, without and aid from mankind.
Omni-present, wouldn’t you say?

Love that Holy Spirit!

Peace>>>AJ

 

[L Gilbert]

OOOOOOOOOH! But [FONT=&quot]Contraire[/FONT], love, Jesus is all yours for the asking!
He is the groom and you dear, are His bride.

Scary prospect. The guy's been dead for a couple thousand years. Anyone watch the latest version of "The Mummy"? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwww

 

[L Gilbert]

Good! Then we both know the truth............brother.

Peace>>>AJ

Nah, we each know a truth ........ dood.