How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

csanopal

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aries, color, race or creeds.

If there is not Godly love, then you remain in the grasp of this world, and as I mentioned earlier, the wrath of mankind is all there is.

Your choice!

Peace>>>AJ


Just a question (or two):

1) Are you aware that one of the precepts of the Church is that you attend Mass on sundays and all holy days of obligation, (and missing said obligations is a grave sin)?

2) Did you receive the Eucharist at Mass on Christmas? And if so did you confess before hand?
 

csanopal

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irit" and just mis-interpreted Vatican II to some serious extremes which has destroyed the faith of many people, resulting in the lack of belief in the Eucharist and the falling away many Catholics.


Nowdays we are seeing the negatives and many are reacting
favorably by doing what the council intended.

We just need to weed out the negative and start authentically implementing Vatican II, as the dissenters have had a field day with the Church. By not doing what Vatican II said and just seeking their own personal desires they have placed themselves above God.


When I was going through my spiritual dryness, I would regard anyone guiding me to follow the teachings and parameters of worship established by the Holy Mother Church as somehow being mean, or judgemental, or not truly understanding what I was going through in my spiritual journey. What I know now is that those people were loving and true, that they cared about my immortal soul and that telling me The Truth was the best way they could demonstrate that love.

Alas, I was very selfish and self-centred. How dare they point out to me that I may have received the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of my SAVIOUR in a state of mortal/grave sin! How DARE they suggest that I go and receive the Sacrament of Reconcilliation! Don't they know WHO I AM????

Finally, of course, I had to swallow my pride and begin to practice the Faith as God intends me to practice it - and I take comfort in the fact that one of the best things about being a practicing Catholic is I don't have to be perfect - I just have to practice, practice, practice.......
 

look3467

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Just a question (or two):

1) Are you aware that one of the precepts of the Church is that you attend Mass on sundays and all holy days of obligation, (and missing said obligations is a grave sin)?

2) Did you receive the Eucharist at Mass on Christmas? And if so did you confess before hand?

Yes, I am! For once as a child I used to be a Catholic and went to Catholic school. I was an altar boy, got my feet washed and kissed by the priest, I committed my self for a season to have Holy Communion everyday before school, I went to confession and did all that I thought to do to be honored by God.

I was, I thought, pretty much doing things right. I mean my faith in God was such that I felt comfortable with Him.

But now, after many changes in my life I believe I have the real thing, and that being the Spirit of Jesus in me and a new outlook in life.

I am under not one constraint of any kind to having to “do” but instead a “want to do” is my choice preference.

God is concerned only at the state condition of my heart, and if that is right with Him, then nothing but good will proceed out of me as good work.

I am not bound but free! I will give you a verse to read, and by the way, I reference the bible allot, for in it, we find all our questions answered: all we have to do is ask.

Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.


Bondage: Meaning of those things which bind us from worshiping God with the heart rather then by traditions and or rudiments of mankind.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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Hi, Csanopal

When I was going through my spiritual dryness, I would regard anyone guiding me to follow the teachings and parameters of worship established by the Holy Mother Church as somehow being mean, or judgemental, or not truly understanding what I was going through in my spiritual journey. What I know now is that those people were loving and true, that they cared about my immortal soul and that telling me The Truth was the best way they could demonstrate that love.

Alas, I was very selfish and self-centred. How dare they point out to me that I may have received the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of my SAVIOUR in a state of mortal/grave sin! How DARE they suggest that I go and receive the Sacrament of Reconcilliation! Don't they know WHO I AM????

Finally, of course, I had to swallow my pride and begin to practice the Faith as God intends me to practice it - and I take comfort in the fact that one of the best things about being a practicing Catholic is I don't have to be perfect - I just have to practice, practice, practice......
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That is great! The biggest hindrances we have from really touching God is self.

Here is a verse:
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Mainly means: selfish lusts!

Peace>>>AJ
 

tamarin

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This thread has remarkable longevity. For something I would consider a big yawn it seems to have acquired a devoted following. Keep it up!
 

look3467

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This thread has remarkable longevity. For something I would consider a big yawn it seems to have acquired a devoted following. Keep it up!

Hi, Tamarin

Yes......the sin question. Well, if it wern't for sin, we'd all be as but good! But good for what?

How good is good? Unless there is something to compare good against, then good has no value.

Enter: The tree of knowledge of good and evil.

And who put it there?

God.

Now, we can tell the value of what good is, by eating of the fruit of that tree.

So, unless we understand how to overcome the evil side of that tree, we will not be victorious, hence the lenght of the treads importance.

Peace>>>AJ
 

csanopal

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I was, I thought, pretty much doing things right. I mean my faith in God was such that I felt comfortable with Him.

But now, after many changes in my life I believe I have the real thing, and that being the Spirit of Jesus in me and a new outlook in life.

Peace>>>AJ

How long are you going to imperil your immortal soul in order to "feel" better?

You have a problem with authority. You fail to understand that your contrubution and worth at Mass is your heartfelt worship of Christ and not your opinion on the readings or the fuzzy feeling you get after you leave.

I pray you will get on your knees, (with a priest in communion with Rome) and ask God for forgiveness for your pride in thinking you know better than the Church He founded before you find yourself "feeling" the pain of Hell.
 

look3467

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How long are you going to imperil your immortal soul in order to "feel" better?

You have a problem with authority. You fail to understand that your contrubution and worth at Mass is your heartfelt worship of Christ and not your opinion on the readings or the fuzzy feeling you get after you leave.

I pray you will get on your knees, (with a priest in communion with Rome) and ask God for forgiveness for your pride in thinking you know better than the Church He founded before you find yourself "feeling" the pain of Hell.

My soul is safe and sound, so sound that I can go to the Father God any time I want and cry my heart out to Him and have the confidences that He hears me.

Here's a scripture:
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

And that is it.

Peace>>>AJ
 

csanopal

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My soul is safe and sound, so sound that I can go to the Father God any time I want and cry my heart out to Him and have the confidences that He hears me.

Here's a scripture:

And that is it.

Peace>>>AJ


But you have left the Church! Dosen't that concern you at all?
 

look3467

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But you have left the Church! Dosen't that concern you at all?

Not at all. Since I've left the church I have learned so much more about God then if I would have stayed.
I'm not putting down the church, it's just that in order to learn more about God, one has to do research into the bible, and then some studies in other areas as well.

Peace>>>AJ
 

canadarocks

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e end of times [Matthew 28:20].
The Sacrament of Reconciliation produces the fruit of peace in our souls and prepares us to be worthy to receive the Precious Body and Blood of Jesus in the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist.

Interesting article. Would not the Communion wash away the sins of the people taking it?
 

sanctus

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Not at all. Since I've left the church I have learned so much more about God then if I would have stayed.
I'm not putting down the church, it's just that in order to learn more about God, one has to do research into the bible, and then some studies in other areas as well.

Peace>>>AJ

I am not questioning your choices, but surely you must admit that your statement seems odd. Namely, to leave the Body of Christ, His Church on earth, to find Him is a contradiction of His teachings.
 

sanctus

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How long are you going to imperil your immortal soul in order to "feel" better?

You have a problem with authority. You fail to understand that your contrubution and worth at Mass is your heartfelt worship of Christ and not your opinion on the readings or the fuzzy feeling you get after you leave.

I pray you will get on your knees, (with a priest in communion with Rome) and ask God for forgiveness for your pride in thinking you know better than the Church He founded before you find yourself "feeling" the pain of Hell.

And how long, csanopal, will you imperil your immortal soul by passing judgement on people?
 

sanctus

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Hi, Tamarin

Yes......the sin question. Well, if it wern't for sin, we'd all be as but good! But good for what?

How good is good? Unless there is something to compare good against, then good has no value.

Enter: The tree of knowledge of good and evil.

And who put it there?

God.

Now, we can tell the value of what good is, by eating of the fruit of that tree.

So, unless we understand how to overcome the evil side of that tree, we will not be victorious, hence the lenght of the treads importance.

Peace>>>AJ

We make our own choices, that is how the Creator designed us to be. If we choose to allow evil into our lives, or to allow goodness to enter our hearts, either way, the choice is not God's, but ours to make.
 

canadarocks

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In a word, no. Receiving the Precious Body and Blood of our Lord with sins tainted on the heart, without confession first, taints the Sacrament itself for the individual.

Well, who goes to confession anymore anyway.What;s the point, and who says the priest has the power to forgive sins?
 

csanopal

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And how long, csanopal, will you imperil your immortal soul by passing judgement on people?

Odd thing for a priest to write. Isn't the Catholic Church the true Church-all others are false? The guy writes he left the Church, so how can he hope to be saved?Don't they teach doctrine in seminary anyore???