How about them Canucks!

[talloola]

I am thoroughly disgusted, they gave edler a 3 game suspension for the so called hit on hertl last night.

if anything the ref could have given him a 2 minute interference penalty, and they called him a repeat

offender hence the 3 games.

I watched the hit, he hit shoulder to shoulder, hertl didn't even fall down, he was spun a bit, and
had to skate a different direction, and was prevented from getting the puck.

what are your thoughts on this suspension.

I just watched a video of the hit, the head was part of the hit, so that
was the explanation from shanahan, I don't know, didn't think it was that
serious, no injury, no immediate reaction, no falling down.
edler is big, the player was skating low, made him look much smaller than
edler, even though he isn't much smaller at all, his head was down low.

 

[JLM]

I am thoroughly disgusted, they gave edler a 3 game suspension for the so called hit on hertl last night.

if anything the ref could have given him a 2 minute interference penalty, and they called him a repeat

offender hence the 3 games.

I watched the hit, he hit shoulder to shoulder, hertl didn't even fall down, he was spun a bit, and
had to skate a different direction, and was prevented from getting the puck.

what are your thoughts on this suspension.

Typical, similar thing happened to Rome in the series against Bean town.

 

[talloola]

Typical, similar thing happened to Rome in the series against Bean town.

except rome's hit was much harder, with substantial injury.

 

[talloola]

vancouver canucks vs montreal canadiens

CANADIENS (2-2-0) at CANUCKS (3-2-0)

7:00 PM PT
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Buy TicketsSaturday, October 12, 2013
7:00 PM PT
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Season series: The Montreal Canadiens and Vancouver Canucks last met during the 2011-12 season, splitting a pair of games. Vancouver won the first game 4-3 in a shootout, coming back from a 3-0 deficit. Cody Hodgson scored one of those goals and the shootout winner. Montreal won the second game 4-1, on the strength of two Erik Cole goals.

Big story: Montreal continues its Western Canada road trip against Vancouver. It's the third of four games before the Canadiens return for a six-game homestand.

Team Scope:

Canadiens: P.K. Subban had three assists in the Canadiens' 4-1 win over the Edmonton Oilers on Thursday. It was the first win for Montreal on the current road trip (1-1-0).

"I thought it was a great team effort. We stuck to the game plan and we didn't get frustrated when they got a goal early on," Subban said. "We battled back and we did it for each other. It feels great to get our first win on this road trip. We have two more really important games and an opportunity to build some momentum coming out of this road trip."

Brendan Gallagher, who had a power-play tally, agreed it was a big road win.

"You can't start a road trip going 0-2, so this was a big win for us," Gallagher said. "It's tough to win in road buildings in this League, so when you go up in a game you have to take advantage of it."

After dropping the first game of the road trip to the Calgary Flames, the Canadiens bounced back Thursday night. After Vancouver, the road trip concludes against th Winnipeg Jets on Tuesday.

Canucks: The Canucks lost to the San Jose Sharks for the second time this season -- and ninth time in a row -- when they were beaten 4-1 at Rogers Arena on Thursday. Coach John Tortorella noted his team needs to improve.

"I don't think we had many guys going. I'm not going to sit here and pick it apart … but we certainly didn't have enough players going, making a difference," Tortorella told the team's website.

Roberto Luongo, who finished with 25 saves, allowed two goals in the first period, including one with less than a minute left that gave the Sharks a 2-0 lead.

"The first period, we were a little tentative and against a team like that you have to play 60 minutes to give yourself a chance," Luongo said.

Who's hot: Alex Galchenyuk had a goal and an assist Thursday night for the Canadiens, extending his point streak to four games (one goal, six assists). … Despite behind held pointless on Thursday, Jason Garrison has points in four of the Canucks' five games this season (two goals, three assists).

Injury report: The Canadiens are without defensemen Alexei Emelin (right knee surgery), Davis Drewiske (sprained shoulder) and Douglas Murray (upper body) and forward George Parros, who suffered a concussion last week. … Forwards Jordan Schroeder (broken foot), Alexandre Burrows (foot) and Zack Kassian (undisclosed) will not play for the Canucks.

 

[JLM]

except rome's hit was much harder, with substantial injury.

I could be mistaken but I'm sure I thought at the time, Rome's hit was just a little tap!

 

[talloola]

I could be mistaken but I'm sure I thought at the time, Rome's hit was just a little tap!

you'll have to find a tape of it sometime, tap doesn't describe that hit.

it was 'nathan horton', and he was injured, and did not play another game in the playoffs.

 

[JLM]

you'll have to find a tape of it sometime, tap doesn't describe that hit.

it was 'nathan horton', and he was injured, and did not play another game in the playoffs.

Oh, OK maybe I was prejudiced!

 

[bill barilko]

They're stinking the place out tonight.

 

[JLM]

They're stinking the place out tonight.

Sh*t happens! but at least it's Montreal and not some wimpy team.

 

[talloola]

the first half of the game wasn't bad, pretty even, canucks had more chances than montreal, but
price stopped everything, he was very sharp, and had to be.

the game then began to sag, and of course there was 'that' goal which I won't talk about,
and canucks were very weak from then on, and montreal could see the situation and had lots
of jump.

that last goal was a screen shot, but luongo lookrd too uninterested at that point, and wasn't
sharp, didn't seem to be ready.

don't know what was wrong with booth tonight, he sure didn't play with any energy, I hate to even
think that he might have some kind of injury.

and kesler has just turned into a two way checker, and nothing more, he hasn't had any resemblance
of a 'power forward' at all since the season started.

higgins does everything well, I like him, but he has no finish around the net, if he did, he would
have had at least four goals by now.

the team needs some offense, the obvious offense is still there, twins are doing their thing, but
they need some support, and it just isn't there, I know santorelli has goals, and thats good, nbut
he isn't the power forward they need, he is quick, lots of energy, and an asset 'so far' to the team.

maybe going on the road is just what they need right now, and I hope gillis is observing this team
very closely, cause they are not strong offensively at all, he needs to do his job 'now'.

it hurt the team with edler out of the lineup, he has been playing well this season.

 

[Kreskin]

The OWN goal is squarely on Luongo. His responsibility is to know where the puck is and to protect his net, even in the most mundane situations. I'm sure all the radio excusers will be calling it bad luck, it's October, yet another seeing-eye puck .. etc. Hogwash, he's the most overrated goaltender on the planet. Why does everyone keep talking about this guy as being one of the best? If the goaltenders switched teams last night it would've been a blowout by the second period. Luongo would've let in 7 by the mid-game point. I just shudder when a shot comes anywhere near the net, he's so freakin porous it's amazing he stops anything at all.

 

[talloola]

The OWN goal is squarely on Luongo. His responsibility is to know where the puck is and to protect his net, even in the most mundane situations. I'm sure all the radio excusers will be calling it bad luck, it's October, yet another seeing-eye puck .. etc. Hogwash, he's the most overrated goaltender on the planet. Why does everyone keep talking about this guy as being one of the best? If the goaltenders switched teams last night it would've been a blowout by the second period. Luongo would've let in 7 by the mid-game point. I just shudder when a shot comes anywhere near the net, he's so freakin porous it's amazing he stops anything at all.

don't agree with your opinion about 'that' goal last night, sorry but the players responsible were the
ones fumbling and bumbling around with the puck, happened very quickly, and he trusted that they were
in control of the situation, (which was a very easy situation which happens several times throughout a game).
BUT he won't trust aNy of them in the future, and will be worried that it could happen again.,

You have become terminally affected by his past mistakes, but I see a much more controlled goalie now, and
one the team can be confident with. He isn't the best goalie in the league, but I don't see any particular
goalie as perfect, I see all of the so-called top goalies have their 'soft' goals at times.
Too bad canucks couldn't have kept schneider, he is excellent and young, but circumstances prevented that from
happening, so now we have to wait for 'lack' to mature so he can take over from luongo in a few years, and
if luongo goes downhill, well there is always a goalie somewhere to acquire, I don't see it as something
too difficult.
I am satisfied with luongo now, as I don't see this team as a great team anyway, don't think they have the talent to go far in the playoffs, I just hope they make the playoffs, and that isn't luongi's fault, there
is a lot of work to do with this team 'other' than worry about him, he is fine.
I see quite a few players who should be playing at a higher level, and as their goalie I wouldn't be feeling
very confident that I can trust them to support me by scoring enough goals to win games.

 

[Kreskin]

I see the same old same old. Crappy goals. No lateral movement. If it hits him square in the logo everyone paws over his tremendous save.

Lack is good enough to have stopped that second goal. He's that good!

 

[JLM]

I see the same old same old. Crappy goals. No lateral movement. If it hits him square in the logo everyone paws over his tremendous save.

Lack is good enough to have stopped that second goal. He's that good!

From what I've seen of Luongo over the years I'd say he's had a few brilliant games, lots of generally good games and a few flops, pretty much a human performance overall.

 

[talloola]

I watch many games over the season, I see the goalies whom many deem to be the top goalies in the
league become human lots of times, eg. lunquist right now can't seem to stop a beach ball, but he's
considered to be in the top 5 in the league, same with quick, (who batted a puck into his own net
the other night from way outside the goal, trying to redirect it) he is also one of the best in the
league, crawford for chicago had a few 'wierd' games, but he is doing very well, didn't use to like
him, but he is better now, pittsburg's goalie has looked like a dufus many times, but he is still
considered a top goalie, miller for buffalo, top goalie, but he can go thru bad spells and come out
ot it, not lately though.
I would not trade any of them for luongo, he doesn't make any more mistakes, and this year 'less' than
any of them.

I like schneider over all the goalies right now, but if I was luongo, I would be wondering where my
team was last night, only the 3rd goal was slightly questionable, and that is backed up by many of
the analysts as well.

hope they can bounce back from that 1/2 game laugher last night, first time I have seen the team
totally pack it in half way thru a game, before that they were outshooting montreal, just couldn't
score, but many of those shots were not unstoppable.

nope, forget whining about our goalie, whine about many of the players who can't seem to remember how to
score a goal. sure they won both of those overtime games, but either one of those games could have
been lost in OT, thats just the way OT goes, then the team would have been really showing how they
can't score. That is where the problem is.

the proof in the pudding will be how they look after this big road trip, if they can bounce back and
also find a way to score, then good, some progress will be made. there is two back to back games on
this trip so lack will get two games, he needs to get more experience, he is a good goalie, just needs
the games in the NHL.

If luongo has any 'stinkers' I will be the first to admit that, but not for last night.

 

[#juan]

Back in the old days during their heyday, Edmonton had an answer when the opposing team scored four goals on them. They would simply score five goals. Unfortunately, Vancouver doesn't seem to have the scoring talent to do that. Ryan Kesler seems to have changed from a scoring threat to a checker. I think the Canucks need scorers more than checkers right now. This was the worst performance by the Canucks in some time.

 

[talloola]

Back in the old days during their heyday, Edmonton had an answer when the opposing team scored four goals on them. They would simply score five goals. Unfortunately, Vancouver doesn't seem to have the scoring talent to do that. Ryan Kesler seems to have changed from a scoring threat to a checker. I think the Canucks need scorers more than checkers right now. This was the worst performance by the Canucks in some time.

if you watched toronto/edmonton game last night you saw a similar performance that we use to see
edmonton long ago, lots of goals, then toronto scored in OT to win, think the score was 6-5, not
exactly sure.

I wouldn't want to see canucks have that kind of defensive weakness, but sure would like to see
some scoring. kesler is not even getting a smell at shots never mind scoring, don't know where
his mind is, certainly not figuring out that part of the game.

that is their biggest problem, torterella can keep the defense going fine, including the blocking
shots thing, but he can't do much for them in the goal scoring side of it, just try to mix lines
to find some chemistry, he's done that quite well, the players have to do what they need to do,
and they are not.

there are a few players they can put with the twins to add, but its the second and third lines,
they are the problem.

I didn't see the whole game as a canuck mess last night, just the game after the blunder, they
completely gave up.
check the shots on goal up to that point, canucks were getting lots of chances, but can't score.
were outshooting montreal, montreal has a quick team, small and quick.

 

[Kreskin]

I watch many games over the season, I see the goalies whom many deem to be the top goalies in the
league become human lots of times, eg. lunquist right now can't seem to stop a beach ball, but he's
considered to be in the top 5 in the league, same with quick, (who batted a puck into his own net
the other night from way outside the goal, trying to redirect it) he is also one of the best in the
league, crawford for chicago had a few 'wierd' games, but he is doing very well, didn't use to like
him, but he is better now, pittsburg's goalie has looked like a dufus many times, but he is still
considered a top goalie, miller for buffalo, top goalie, but he can go thru bad spells and come out
ot it, not lately though.
I would not trade any of them for luongo, he doesn't make any more mistakes, and this year 'less' than
any of them.

I like schneider over all the goalies right now, but if I was luongo, I would be wondering where my
team was last night, only the 3rd goal was slightly questionable, and that is backed up by many of
the analysts as well.

hope they can bounce back from that 1/2 game laugher last night, first time I have seen the team
totally pack it in half way thru a game, before that they were outshooting montreal, just couldn't
score, but many of those shots were not unstoppable.

nope, forget whining about our goalie, whine about many of the players who can't seem to remember how to
score a goal. sure they won both of those overtime games, but either one of those games could have
been lost in OT, thats just the way OT goes, then the team would have been really showing how they
can't score. That is where the problem is.

the proof in the pudding will be how they look after this big road trip, if they can bounce back and
also find a way to score, then good, some progress will be made. there is two back to back games on
this trip so lack will get two games, he needs to get more experience, he is a good goalie, just needs
the games in the NHL.

If luongo has any 'stinkers' I will be the first to admit that, but not for last night.

Don't whine about scoring. The other teams have goalies.

 

[talloola]

Don't whine about scoring. The other teams have goalies.

lol -

 

[talloola]

if you go into canucks web site and listen to torterella's post game interview, he was spot on, very
accurate.