A couple things bothered me about the team this year: One was the strength of the team with, and without both of the Sedins. Two
was in the last dozen games of the season, they seem to have had a hard time scoring goals
How about them Canucks!
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A couple things bothered me about the team this year: One was the strength of the team with, and without both of the Sedins. Two
was in the last dozen games of the season, they seem to have had a hard time scoring goals
yes, juan a gross simplification, watch the playoffs, and forget about 'standings' at the end of the
season, they go out the window, playoffs are a brand new start, everyone even at the starting line,
then see what happens.
boston won last year, while just making the playoffs by a hair.
if you keep track of individual players, then you should know that L.A. has top
end players who didn't seem to find their game all season, but they have the
background for success, now they woke up, but have only won one game in this
series, so anything can happen moving forward.
yep, they had trouble scoring goals coming down the stretch, but I don't consider that far and above
what they can do when they come out of that, so for me it is 'players', not the coach, he can't go
on the ice and score goals.
But who knows whats going on behind the scenes, maybe they are going to fire him, why
I wouldn't begin to know, and I can't put my finger on anyone out there who has
been more successful, or better with their players, sure we have McTavish in chicago,
but he isn't walking around with a great NHL record, and why wasn't he hired long
ago by and NHL team, don't get me wrong I like McTavish, but to fire a coach just
'because', leaves the team without a coach, but still with all of the players, what
then.
You are really stuck, don't you have anything else on your mind, how about some comments that would
be helpful to anyone at all.
yes, thats right, every year at training camp there will be young players, coming out of juniors, and
also from the farm team, and canucks have a few very good ones, so in september when that takes place
the team will change, as it usually does.
Of course they are all aware of the lack of goal scoring later in the season, so that will be one of
their biggest tasks, and they know that.
Sure don't want to see them panic and start ripping the team apart, and I like vineault too, but maybe
he is negotiating with Montreal, and might leave on his own, as montreal is his home, he has family there,
and perhaps he would like to go back home, we'll see over the next couple of weeks.
Or maybe they are going to fire him, that will be interesting, and seems to excite some people, just
for the sake of change, but I'm not for that, but the media beat that to death and they are excited
about it, but they jump back and forth every five minutes, so what they say means absolutely nothing.
All the so called top teams are out, exvept rangers, doesn't surprise me at all, all the teams are
capable of pulling a playoff win, but it is fun to watch and wonder.
And also, when they do finally make a 'goaltender' deal, there will be something
good coming this way.
So, you're now claiming that teams that make it into the second round of playoffs are NOT strong.
First of all, nobody suggested firing Vineault. This is supposed to be a discussion. Vineault's team last year won
the President't Trophy and got to the final in the playoffs. This year they won the President's Trophy again but
not nearly as convincingly and they were booted out of the playoffs in the first round. Let's just imagine that next year
they don't make the playoffs. Would Vinealt's position be as solid? do you think?
On the other hand I don't consider myself the be all, and end all expert in hockey like you do.
I don't consider myself an expert, I don't even want to be considered an expert, I'm just a close follower
of the game, and have been for years, 'ALL OF THE TEAMS',especially in the west.
Where did this expert thing come from, wasn't from me, I just have opinions like everyone else.
I wasn't referring to you as an individual on the firing thing, because I hear it from the radio and
other areas, and no you didn't say that, I agree.
So, I was answering on a more general basis, and I guess i'm mixing your comments and other comments
into my answer, and I have all kinds of different comments made by different people dancing thru my
head, and when I post, I post in that context, so don't take anything I state personally.
And, while I'm posting I have the radio on, and I'm muttering about what they are
talking about, then callers call in to the station, and some of them don't have
a clue, and I mutter again, so bare with me, and I'm reading these posts, more
mattering. lol
Yes, if they played all next season and didn't make the playoffs, then the situation would be completely
different.
What would help canuck fans, is to know their opposition, because just following standings tells a person
almost nothing.
To watch canucks play a team, and only know they are number playing number eight, it just scratching the
surface barely.
An interesting stat that someone on the radio posted is: St. Louis played san jose, 2nd place vs. 7th
place, and there was only a difference of 6 wins apparantly, just an example of how close all of the
teams are in the standings.
There are injuries, slumps, scoring frenzies, scoring droughts, goalie problems from time to time,
but when the individuals are looked at, the abilities from one to another is miniscule.
The difference from all the teams to one another is miniscule, but the timing is important, as the
start of the season can be crucial, as the season goes on it is harder and harder to pass by other
teams, and at the end with four teams jumping back and forth to see which 3 out of the 4 would make
the playoffs, just shows how close they were in points.
Los Angelos and Phoenix are coming alive as we speak with victories in the playoffs, and now we can
see how they are able to play, if the abilities were so different, the top teams would beat the
lower teams in the standings all the time in playoffs, as the bottom teams just wouldn't be good enough
Phoenix and L.A. have become believers in themselves, and have put a scare into their opposition, might
not pay off, but does make a difference.
I don't even know who you're talking to, but it would be nice to hear something constructive from you,
rather than you sitting there just waiting to pounce on any of us who are canucks followers.
For instance, do you have a team you follow, maybe we could chat about your team.
Are you actually interested in hockey or not, or do you go onto many sports forums and trash others
too, just to make your day.
Just how do you operate, what is your gig. Are you canadian, by the look of your avatar, you are
in a straightjacket somewhere, dictating these posts to your therapist.
Maybe this is therapy for you, hope you get better soon. lol lol
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I know you consider yourself the expert, and the only arbiter of what can be said on this thread, so I will leave it to you and your devoted follower/defender of the faith. You make constant excuses while you slavishly drool over 'your' team, harboring ill will and hatred for anyone who disagrees with your love.
Enjoy your time with your friends, you certainly don't want anyone to disagree with you.
Enjoy your time with your friends, you certainly don't want anyone to disagree with you.
Who is to say that Alain doesn't motivate the team, juan? Really, all the motivation in the world doesn't mean the team is going to step up when they most need too. One might even go so far as to say that winning Round 1 of the Stanley Cup play-offs should in itself be all the motivation needed.
I am really glad to hear Alain will be back with the Canucks but hope to hear that a couple of players will be packing their bags.
do you live in a cave, are you afraid to disclose anything about yourself, other than attack, attack,
I love it, the more you attack, the more ridiculous you sound,
I guess you don't have a team you cheer for, I guess you don't follow hockey at all.
You must just run around to different forums trashing others, as you don't have an idea
of your own that would be constructive to chatting on this forum.
I'm not afraid to disagree with anyone, I have strong hockey opinions, but I'm respectfull
of others.
You don't disagree with anything to do with real hockey information, you just criticize how
others think, and you aren't even right about that.
Maybe you won't talk about 'your' team because you're afraid we will treat you like you treat us.
Don't worry, I was brought up to be better than that, I would probably even like your team, as I
do like most of the NHL teams.
Maybe it is toronto.
I criticize the canucks much more than, I'm sure any of the canuck fans would like me to.
I'm actually very picky about the team.
You obviously
don't read my posts, or you would know that.
I think I might have accidentally given you a thumbs down in my haste to give you one up. So here's one for sure. :thumbright:
I think people mistake Alain's calm demeanor behind the bench for being too soft. Just because he doesn't rant and rave like say.........oh the Flyers coach.........doesn't mean he isn't getting his point and thoughts across to the players. Reaming one's team out in front of an audience is the height of ignorance and disrespect. Save it for the locker-rooms.
Sorry for the rant and I agree with you completely about Alain Vigneault.
Even with a healthy Crosby and the best year Malkin has had in awhile, the Pens couldn't get past the Flyers. And what about the Hawks and the other top seeded teams who seem to be missing from the Second Round this year. I doubt many of them will be firing their coaches.
The Canucks or as I saw in a newspaper - All the President's Men - were the top of their conference and that says something in itself. Sure they couldn't get out of the first round this year but I believe the loss of Daniel, the poor performance of Booth and Kesler and a couple of others - all had a negative affect of the team's morale or spirit. They just didn't look 'energized' or committed for some reason and I don't blame that on Alain Vigneault.
I'd make that, kind of strong, considering how he's been in the last couple of games, darn it.
NO. And I mostly say that for Lou's sake, talloola. He's taken way too much garbage from Canuck 'fans'. He wants to go or he wouldn't have made the statement that he did. Let him go. Corey is the goalie the Canucks can build on, bring up some star form the juniors as his back up. IMHO.
Judging by what he has brought to the team so far, I would say that is a safe bet, juan. Gillis is a smart man and the team and management are lucky to have him. One need only look to TO to see how bad things can be when a team has a whinging cretin as GM.
What is your problem? Slavishly drool? If anything, talloola is usually the first person to give a succinct and if need be brutally honest opinion concerning the Canucks performance. She will as likely point out the deficiencies she sees as the positive attributes. Why are you so determined to state what is blatantly false? Why don't you write about the team(s) you support? And where are you for the better part of the season whilst we here are contributing?
I admire Tallola's knowledge of hockey but we have had differences of opinion on certain things which in no way deters us from having wonderful discussions on other topics and that TP is something that you are beyond a doubt unable to do without being nasty.
NO. And I mostly say that for Lou's sake, talloola. He's taken way too much garbage from Canuck 'fans'. He wants to go or he wouldn't have made the statement that he did. Let him go. Corey is the goalie the Canucks can build on, bring up some star form the juniors as his back up. IMHO.
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I don't think anything the fans have done left any scars on luongo BUT I do believe the fact that vineault
played schneider in the remainder of the games had a great effect on him.
He saw the writing on the wall, saw schneider pull out and pass him, leaving him second in the order.
I believe for that reason, and that reason only, he wants to step back, be very unselfish, and he also
spoke to gillis saying he would waive his no-trade contract 'if' gillis feels that he needs to
make a trade.
So that frees gillis up and unties his hands, and allows a trade to happen IF Gillis thinks that is the
thing to do.
BUT in my opinion gillis's responsibility is to the team and not to either goalie as an individual.
Whatever he can do that makes the team stronger and makes more sense to him, is what he should do.
In my opinion schneider did become a tad better than luongo, BUT none of us has watched schneider
play a complete season yet, so that is untested territory, and also he would be the guy taking the
place of luongo in the eyes of the fans, and they would all 'turn' to him with their criticisms and
also their ridiculous demands, which schneider has not had to face yet.
Luongo has put up with very very fickle fans for a long time now, and it hasn't phased him for a second,
he is stronger as an individual than any fan, knows himself and his abilities better than any fan, and
if any goalie buckles under the whining of the fans, or becomes swell headed from the bragging about
him from the fans, then he wouldn't have made it nearly as far as he has.
SO, it does seem obvious that gillis will keep schneider and trade luongo, but in my mind it isn't automatic.
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I don't think anything the fans have done left any scars on luongo BUT I do believe the fact that vineault
played schneider in the remainder of the games had a great effect on him.
He saw the writing on the wall, saw schneider pull out and pass him, leaving him second in the order.
I believe for that reason, and that reason only, he wants to step back, be very unselfish, and he also
spoke to gillis saying he would waive his no-trade contract 'if' gillis feels that he needs to
make a trade.
So that frees gillis up and unties his hands, and allows a trade to happen IF Gillis thinks that is the
thing to do.
BUT in my opinion gillis's responsibility is to the team and not to either goalie as an individual.
Whatever he can do that makes the team stronger and makes more sense to him, is what he should do.
In my opinion schneider did become a tad better than luongo, BUT none of us has watched schneider
play a complete season yet, so that is untested territory, and also he would be the guy taking the
place of luongo in the eyes of the fans, and they would all 'turn' to him with their criticisms and
also their ridiculous demands, which schneider has not had to face yet.
Luongo has put up with very very fickle fans for a long time now, and it hasn't phased him for a second,
he is stronger as an individual than any fan, knows himself and his abilities better than any fan, and
if any goalie buckles under the whining of the fans, or becomes swell headed from the bragging about
him from the fans, then he wouldn't have made it nearly as far as he has.
SO, it does seem obvious that gillis will keep schneider and trade luongo, but in my mind it isn't automatic.
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The Vancouver Canucks reaffirmed their faith in Mike Gillis on Monday, signing their president and general manager to an undisclosed contract extension.
Coming off the fourth season of the five-year deal he signed in 2008, Gillis met with ownership 15 days after the earliest playoff exit of his tenure, and emerged later in the day with a renewed commitment to his vision for the franchise.
Despite the recent disappointment of being knocked out in five games by Los Angeles, it was a logical continuation of a tenure that includes Northwest Division titles every season, the Presidents' Trophy as the NHL's top regular season team the last two, and a trip to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final last summer.
"Since we began this we accomplished 98 percent of what we set out to do, and in those circumstances most people continue on and continue with the plan and continue to finish off the last two percent," Gillis said on a conference call before boarding a plane for a sports leadership conference at Stanford University. "I feel very proud of what’s been accomplished by the organization on and off the ice. It's the right thing to carry on and continue to try and accomplish our goals."
It sounded like coach Alain Vigneault, who was in place when Gillis arrived and also has just one year left on his current contract, will continue as part of it.
Vancouver Canucks general manager Mike Gillis, who agreed to terms on a contract extension Monday, received the General Manager of the Year Award at the 2011 NHL Awards.
(Photo: Jeff Vinnick/Getty Images)Gillis, who was also named NHL General Manager of the Year in 2011, wouldn't talk contract specifics. But just as he did in a press conference two days after the Canucks were eliminated, he praised Vigneault, who he'd talked to Monday, and said they were "going to work together towards creating an agreement."
"I feel very comfortable with Alain as a coach," Gillis said, adding the decision is his to make. "He's done an excellent job, and I don't know why you wouldn't want somebody back that has done an excellent job and has the results to show for it."
Gillis admitted there have been times he wondered if the energy required and scrutiny were worth staying, but said Vigneault wants to come back to coach.
"We both feel it's a very good hockey team and a unique situation we face," Gillis said. "A good team, how to get over that last little hurdle and we're determined to work together to try and get there. … I intend to continue talking to him to try and keep our group together and have an opportunity to win the Stanley Cup."
Gillis downplayed the fact Vigneault had yet to talk to reporters since the playoff disappointment, which also played a role in delaying his own evaluation.
"To make sure everyone was level headed and not emotional about what had happened when we had such high expectations," Gillis explained.
Despite the delay, a quick pronouncement on his future was important given all the other things that need to get done this summer. In addition to a coaching decision that is "the first thing on my agenda," Gillis must address a goaltending situation changed when Vigneault chose to start backup Cory Schneider ahead of incumbent Roberto Luongo for the final three playoff games.
Luongo, who has a decade left in the 12-year, $64-million contract he signed with Gillis, said after the season that he was willing to waive his no-trade clause, and has indicated it is time to move on after six seasons in Vancouver. But Schneider is set to become a restricted free agent July 1, and without an extension of his own could become the target of offer sheets from other teams.
Gillis didn't have any updates on Luongo's status, indicating he hadn't talked to him about his future since their meetings two days after the season, but knows he can't afford to lose both goaltenders.
Keeping his own key players has been a strength under Gillis, who joined the Canucks after 15 years as a player agent, and re-signed core players like Ryan Kesler, Daniel and Henrik Sedin, Kevin Bieksa, Alexander Edler and Alexandre Burrows, many below market value. Given the future likely includes trading a goalie, Gillis will have to improve on some of his past deals, including separate ones to acquire forward David Booth and defenseman Keith Ballard from Florida despite long-term contracts worth more than $4-million a season, and expectations they've so far failed to live up to.
They are part of player procurement history under Gillis that has as many misses (Steve Bernier, Pavol Demitra, Mats Sundin and Marco Sturm) as hits (Chris Higgins, Dan Hamhuis and since-departed Christian Ehrhoff).
"We have an awfully busy summer ahead of us," Gillis said. "We have a number of situations that we need to resolve. Now that I've resolved my situation we should be able to act on opportunities in front of us."
It will start with the coach, and continue with the goaltending, all with the goal of not having to undergo a similar year-end evaluation this early next summer.
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makes me feel good so far, now we just need to hear the confirmation of vineault's extension, then later
but not too late, the decision about the goalkeeping.
they are addressing each situation carefully, and made sure they didn't make emotional decisions,
and waited till that time period had ended, and cooler heads prevailed.
good for them
Coming off the fourth season of the five-year deal he signed in 2008, Gillis met with ownership 15 days after the earliest playoff exit of his tenure, and emerged later in the day with a renewed commitment to his vision for the franchise.
Despite the recent disappointment of being knocked out in five games by Los Angeles, it was a logical continuation of a tenure that includes Northwest Division titles every season, the Presidents' Trophy as the NHL's top regular season team the last two, and a trip to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final last summer.
"Since we began this we accomplished 98 percent of what we set out to do, and in those circumstances most people continue on and continue with the plan and continue to finish off the last two percent," Gillis said on a conference call before boarding a plane for a sports leadership conference at Stanford University. "I feel very proud of what’s been accomplished by the organization on and off the ice. It's the right thing to carry on and continue to try and accomplish our goals."
It sounded like coach Alain Vigneault, who was in place when Gillis arrived and also has just one year left on his current contract, will continue as part of it.
Vancouver Canucks general manager Mike Gillis, who agreed to terms on a contract extension Monday, received the General Manager of the Year Award at the 2011 NHL Awards.
(Photo: Jeff Vinnick/Getty Images)Gillis, who was also named NHL General Manager of the Year in 2011, wouldn't talk contract specifics. But just as he did in a press conference two days after the Canucks were eliminated, he praised Vigneault, who he'd talked to Monday, and said they were "going to work together towards creating an agreement."
"I feel very comfortable with Alain as a coach," Gillis said, adding the decision is his to make. "He's done an excellent job, and I don't know why you wouldn't want somebody back that has done an excellent job and has the results to show for it."
Gillis admitted there have been times he wondered if the energy required and scrutiny were worth staying, but said Vigneault wants to come back to coach.
"We both feel it's a very good hockey team and a unique situation we face," Gillis said. "A good team, how to get over that last little hurdle and we're determined to work together to try and get there. … I intend to continue talking to him to try and keep our group together and have an opportunity to win the Stanley Cup."
Gillis downplayed the fact Vigneault had yet to talk to reporters since the playoff disappointment, which also played a role in delaying his own evaluation.
"To make sure everyone was level headed and not emotional about what had happened when we had such high expectations," Gillis explained.
Despite the delay, a quick pronouncement on his future was important given all the other things that need to get done this summer. In addition to a coaching decision that is "the first thing on my agenda," Gillis must address a goaltending situation changed when Vigneault chose to start backup Cory Schneider ahead of incumbent Roberto Luongo for the final three playoff games.
Luongo, who has a decade left in the 12-year, $64-million contract he signed with Gillis, said after the season that he was willing to waive his no-trade clause, and has indicated it is time to move on after six seasons in Vancouver. But Schneider is set to become a restricted free agent July 1, and without an extension of his own could become the target of offer sheets from other teams.
Gillis didn't have any updates on Luongo's status, indicating he hadn't talked to him about his future since their meetings two days after the season, but knows he can't afford to lose both goaltenders.
Keeping his own key players has been a strength under Gillis, who joined the Canucks after 15 years as a player agent, and re-signed core players like Ryan Kesler, Daniel and Henrik Sedin, Kevin Bieksa, Alexander Edler and Alexandre Burrows, many below market value. Given the future likely includes trading a goalie, Gillis will have to improve on some of his past deals, including separate ones to acquire forward David Booth and defenseman Keith Ballard from Florida despite long-term contracts worth more than $4-million a season, and expectations they've so far failed to live up to.
They are part of player procurement history under Gillis that has as many misses (Steve Bernier, Pavol Demitra, Mats Sundin and Marco Sturm) as hits (Chris Higgins, Dan Hamhuis and since-departed Christian Ehrhoff).
"We have an awfully busy summer ahead of us," Gillis said. "We have a number of situations that we need to resolve. Now that I've resolved my situation we should be able to act on opportunities in front of us."
It will start with the coach, and continue with the goaltending, all with the goal of not having to undergo a similar year-end evaluation this early next summer.
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makes me feel good so far, now we just need to hear the confirmation of vineault's extension, then later
but not too late, the decision about the goalkeeping.
they are addressing each situation carefully, and made sure they didn't make emotional decisions,
and waited till that time period had ended, and cooler heads prevailed.
good for them
IMO a smart move that bodes well for the future of the club.
Alain Vigneault staying behind Canucks' bench
Head coach's job status was unclear after team's early exit from Stanley Cup playoffs
Canucks head coach Alain Vigneault has five 100-plus point seasons in nearly six years with the team
Alain Vigneault has resolved his future in Vancouver. Now, he wants to help the Canucks figure out what went wrong this season.
The veteran coach signed a contract extension with the Canucks on Wednesday, ending any speculation on whether he would be back behind the NHL team's bench next season.
"We're looking for some solutions — and we're going to find those solutions," said Vigneault from his off-season home in Gatineau, Que., during a conference call.
The Canucks did not disclose terms, but Vigneault said it was a two-year extension.
The Canucks have posted the league's best regular-season record for the last two seasons under Vigneault, but his job status was unclear after Vancouver was bounced from the first round of the playoffs by the eighth-place Los Angeles Kings.
Analyzing the season publicly for the first time since the team was eliminated, Vigneault said the Canucks were not able to play "in the moment" to the same extent that they did while advancing to the 2010-11 Stanley Cup final.
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Alain Vigneault staying behind Canucks' bench
Head coach's job status was unclear after team's early exit from Stanley Cup playoffs
Canucks head coach Alain Vigneault has five 100-plus point seasons in nearly six years with the team
Alain Vigneault has resolved his future in Vancouver. Now, he wants to help the Canucks figure out what went wrong this season.
The veteran coach signed a contract extension with the Canucks on Wednesday, ending any speculation on whether he would be back behind the NHL team's bench next season.
"We're looking for some solutions — and we're going to find those solutions," said Vigneault from his off-season home in Gatineau, Que., during a conference call.
The Canucks did not disclose terms, but Vigneault said it was a two-year extension.
The Canucks have posted the league's best regular-season record for the last two seasons under Vigneault, but his job status was unclear after Vancouver was bounced from the first round of the playoffs by the eighth-place Los Angeles Kings.
Analyzing the season publicly for the first time since the team was eliminated, Vigneault said the Canucks were not able to play "in the moment" to the same extent that they did while advancing to the 2010-11 Stanley Cup final.
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The main problem was L.A.'s goal tender. No use Vigneault agonizing over that, not a thing he could do about it.
I always believed that Gillis would keep Vigneault - it would have been a real step backward to let him go. Coaches that get their teams to the play-offs year after year don't grow on trees. The Canucks are lucky to have Alain - I can think of a few teams that would dearly love to see him behind their bench.
As we are seeing in these play-offs - anything can happen. Top teams have fallen by the wayside victims of teams that struggled during the regular season but shone during the play-offs.
As we are seeing in these play-offs - anything can happen. Top teams have fallen by the wayside victims of teams that struggled during the regular season but shone during the play-offs.
there is no way, (in my opinion) that gillis could fire vineault, but stay on himself. He is the guy
who bought in players for vineault to coach, and some of those players haven't worked out, (eg. mats
sundin), and a few others. And i'm not saying that is horrible, its just the gamble one takes when
making those decisions, but for gillis to stay on, and fire vineault, just wouldn't make any sense
to me.
Vineault developed the sedins, kesler, burrows, raymond (although he has had a bad setback), tanev, and hansen
and others I might have forgotton, and those players are very successful under the guidance of vineault.
He can now work with kassian, (only 21 yrs old), and develope him. He has done a good job, but many
don't even think about the players I mentioned, they are tunnel visioned on cody hodgson, and hopefully
like the team, the fans can have enough maturity to move on too.
I'm glad they are both back, and I wish them a great future, lets move forward and upward.
I'll repeat myself for the umteenth time, once teams reach the playoffs, its all
even, they all start the same, and anything can happen, and in l.a.s case, a team
that had underachieved all year, finally put together what they should have done from
the beginning of the season.
Bringing in Darryl Sutter was a good choice, as he settled dowdy down, took him
behind the barn and 'told him like it is', and dowdy has been a much better ever
since. I never did see l.a. as a bottom seed that somehow managed to win their
way to the top, they just happened to end up in 8th place, and they have good
players, and those players came together, along with the rest of the team, and the
goalie and did their thing, played better than canucks, st. louis and phoenix, so
good for them, I hope they win it all now, they deserve it.
I listened to a chat with vineault on team 1040 today, it was very interesting, he
said they were allready putting their heads together to make plans to improve the
team and prepare them to do better in the playoffs next season.
who bought in players for vineault to coach, and some of those players haven't worked out, (eg. mats
sundin), and a few others. And i'm not saying that is horrible, its just the gamble one takes when
making those decisions, but for gillis to stay on, and fire vineault, just wouldn't make any sense
to me.
Vineault developed the sedins, kesler, burrows, raymond (although he has had a bad setback), tanev, and hansen
and others I might have forgotton, and those players are very successful under the guidance of vineault.
He can now work with kassian, (only 21 yrs old), and develope him. He has done a good job, but many
don't even think about the players I mentioned, they are tunnel visioned on cody hodgson, and hopefully
like the team, the fans can have enough maturity to move on too.
I'm glad they are both back, and I wish them a great future, lets move forward and upward.
I'll repeat myself for the umteenth time, once teams reach the playoffs, its all
even, they all start the same, and anything can happen, and in l.a.s case, a team
that had underachieved all year, finally put together what they should have done from
the beginning of the season.
Bringing in Darryl Sutter was a good choice, as he settled dowdy down, took him
behind the barn and 'told him like it is', and dowdy has been a much better ever
since. I never did see l.a. as a bottom seed that somehow managed to win their
way to the top, they just happened to end up in 8th place, and they have good
players, and those players came together, along with the rest of the team, and the
goalie and did their thing, played better than canucks, st. louis and phoenix, so
good for them, I hope they win it all now, they deserve it.
I listened to a chat with vineault on team 1040 today, it was very interesting, he
said they were allready putting their heads together to make plans to improve the
team and prepare them to do better in the playoffs next season.
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This team is little more than a joke. They were the number one team but they
played mostly inferior western division teams. yes LA had a hot goaltender,
but the Canucks had no staying power. They can't hit, they can't protect their
stars, they can't fight and you need that. There are too many Lady Bing
contenders and not enough bump and grind. A lot of changes are required if
they are to get to the cup. Get rid of Roberto, and the twins they are a liability.
The only thing worse would be seeing these Prima Donna's show up in Montreal.
Keeping the coach is good it ensures the Canucks won't win the big prize.
played mostly inferior western division teams. yes LA had a hot goaltender,
but the Canucks had no staying power. They can't hit, they can't protect their
stars, they can't fight and you need that. There are too many Lady Bing
contenders and not enough bump and grind. A lot of changes are required if
they are to get to the cup. Get rid of Roberto, and the twins they are a liability.
The only thing worse would be seeing these Prima Donna's show up in Montreal.
Keeping the coach is good it ensures the Canucks won't win the big prize.
you must have just crawled out of the cave you've been living in for the past months.
you have no grasp of the facts that are so clear for all of us, who have been above
ground, actually paying attention to what really was happening.
i'm not so wrapped up in the so-called big prize, so I don't feel the need to trash
anyone connected with the team, they will work out their situations without any of
us butting in with our lame suggestions, when we don't have a clue how to run a team,
coach a team, or play in the NHL.