How about them Canucks!

[JLM]

Oh Yeah! Wings are 13 back with 6 remaining. Thats the Conference wrapped up. 1 win and 1 tie for the presidents trophy.

Missed the game but looks we had another smokiong 3rd period.


GO GO GO!

Canucks should have the "z" already, best Detroit can do is 110 points. Anyone know what the season record is? I'm pretty sure the Oilers got 120 one year, but Philly back in the 70s may have even topped that figure.

 

[talloola]

Canucks should have the "z" already, best Detroit can do is 110 points. Anyone know what the season record is? I'm pretty sure the Oilers got 120 one year, but Philly back in the 70s may have even topped that figure.

don't know JLM, I'll wait for your fact after you go digging. I'm just so busy this morning, this
to do, and that to do, no rest for the wicked, I just don't have time to search, OK, gotta run, my
time here is up for awhile. lol

 

[JLM]

don't know JLM, I'll wait for your fact after you go digging. I'm just so busy this morning, this
to do, and that to do, no rest for the wicked, I just don't have time to search, OK, gotta run, my
time here is up for awhile. lol

Just take your time, Talloola - no panic- with stats like this it's very important to be able to take the time to get them right. :lol:

 

[#juan]

Just take your time, Talloola - no panic- with stats like this it's very important to be able to take the time to get them right. :lol:

Most Points: 132, by 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens

 

[JLM]

Most Points: 132, by 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens

Yep, just found it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_records_(team)

 

[Avro]

Most Points: 132, by 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens

Likely never to be duplicated, they lost only nine games that year and had a perfect record at home.

That was the best team ever assembled in the NHL.

On another note, just heard that Manny Malhotra is expected to fully recover from his eye injury.

Good news for Canuck fans.

 

[talloola]

Likely never to be duplicated, they lost only nine games that year and had a perfect record at home.

That was the best team ever assembled in the NHL.

On another note, just heard that Manny Malhotra is expected to fully recover from his eye injury.

Good news for Canuck fans.

thats the best news I've heard today, i'm so glad for him.

 

[JLM]

Getting 132 points might be a little easier with a 6 team franchise than with a 30 team franchise.

 

[talloola]

Getting 132 points might be a little easier with a 6 team franchise than with a 30 team franchise.

and also when they could grab all the french canadian and other eastern juniors, and get a jump start,
and leave the left overs for others.

now it is fair for everyone.

 

[Avro]

Getting 132 points might be a little easier with a 6 team franchise than with a 30 team franchise.

Were there six teams in 1976-77?

and also when they could grab all the french canadian and other eastern juniors, and get a jump start,
and leave the left overs for others.

now it is fair for everyone.

Just like when Ontario could pick from Ontario first and the West could pick from the West and so on....unless you are admitting French players are better.....;-)

Many people have tried to belittle the accomplishments of the Habs but it never works.

I hope the Canucks win this year, they have the best Canadian chance and it will be Cup number 1.....make the banner realy wide so it looks like a lot.:lol:

 

[talloola]

Were there six teams in 1976-77?

l967 was the first year of the draft, and l963 was the first expansion, so in l976 habs did
not grab juniors for themselves, they had to draft, but would have had lots of players who
they did get before draft years started.

 

[Avro]

l967 was the first year of the draft, and l963 was the first expansion, so in l976 habs did
not grab juniors for themselves, they had to draft, but would have had lots of players who
they did get before draft years started.

The Leafs took players from Ontario without a draft, same with the orginal Senators.

What's your point?

 

[talloola]

The Leafs took players from Ontario without a draft, same with the orginal Senators.

What's your point?

there were lots of very good french canadian players, who seemed to all go to the habs.

I don't know what the rules were before the draft, do you?
How did they pick their juniors, it sure wasn't evenly done.

As soon as the draft started, or when it became fair, then the league began to have some balance,
before that, no balance at all.

Seemed it was 'dog eat dog' to get young players back then.

 

[PoliticalNick]

...unless you are admitting French players are better

I didn't know there were any French players ever in the league....lots af great Canadian players form Quebec.... but none from France that I can recall.

Many people have tried to belittle the accomplishments of the Habs but it never works.

We cannot belittle the accomplishments, they have achieved things that will be hard to copy, especially in this day and age. We can however still belittle the team, players, owners, and especially the no-good arrogant fans.

I cannot ever root for them to do anything but lose but I sure do miss the old Forum. One of the worst things they ever did was tear down the holy grail of hockey rinks.

 

[Avro]

there were lots of very good french canadian players, who seemed to all go to the habs.

I don't know what the rules were before the draft, do you?
How did they pick their juniors, it sure wasn't evenly done.

As soon as the draft started, or when it became fair, then the league began to have some balance,
before that, no balance at all.

Seemed it was 'dog eat dog' to get young players back then.

If you don't know the rules before thew draft how can you presume the Habs had an advantage.

If that is the criteria to help you cope with the Habs success, so be it.

Don't worry, the Canucks will one some day.

I didn't know there were any French players ever in the league....lots af great Canadian players form Quebec.... but none from France that I can recall.



We cannot belittle the accomplishments, they have achieved things that will be hard to copy, especially in this day and age. We can however still belittle the team, players, owners, and especially the no-good arrogant fans.

I cannot ever root for them to do anything but lose but I sure do miss the old Forum. One of the worst things they ever did was tear down the holy grail of hockey rinks.

Torn down?

l967 was the first year of the draft, and l963 was the first expansion, so in l976 habs did
not grab juniors for themselves, they had to draft, but would have had lots of players who
they did get before draft years started.

So Guy Lafleur was not drafted?

Steve Shutt was not drafted?

Larry Robinson was not drafted?

Bob Gainey was not drafted?

Shall I go on?

 

[talloola]

If you don't know the rules before thew draft how can you presume the Habs had an advantage.

If that is the criteria to help you cope with the Habs success, so be it.


So Guy Lafleur was not drafted?

Steve Shutt was not drafted?
_______________________________________________________________________________
Well, I was actually asking a question last time, because I don't really know the details, and was
assuming too much.
I don't know if lafleur was drafted, or any of those others, maybe they were, maybe they weren't.
(my husband just told me that lafleur was drafted by the golden seals)

And, yes, montreal and toronto did have an advantage over some others until the draft we have today, which works because it keeps the league competetve, and doesn't
cater to any team ,improvement must be done in the drafting and
development of players, and not in snatching young juniors before any other teams
get a chance to even know who they are.


Montreal was always my team, until canucks were born, so I'M not criticizing them, but facts are facts,
and I would like to know more about the old 'signing' system before the draft.

So, in the old 6 team system, HOW did each team select their players each year, before the draft.
If ontario teams selected from ontario and quebec from quebec, then how did the rest select theirs.
boston, detroit, new york, chicago.

 

[Avro]

If you don't know the rules before thew draft how can you presume the Habs had an advantage.

If that is the criteria to help you cope with the Habs success, so be it.


So Guy Lafleur was not drafted?

Steve Shutt was not drafted?
_______________________________________________________________________________
Well, I was actually asking a question last time, because I don't really know the details, and was
assuming too much.
I don't know if lafleur was drafted, or any of those others, maybe they were, maybe they weren't.
(my husband just told me that lafleur was drafted by the golden seals)

And, yes, montreal and toronto did have an advantage over some others until the draft we have today, which works because it keeps the league competetve, and doesn't
cater to any team ,improvement must be done in the drafting and
development of players, and not in snatching young juniors before any other teams
get a chance to even know who they are.


Montreal was always my team, until canucks were born, so I'M not criticizing them, but facts are facts,
and I would like to know more about the old 'signing' system before the draft.

So, in the old 6 team system, HOW did each team select their players each year, before the draft.
If ontario teams selected from ontario and quebec from quebec, then how did the rest select theirs.
boston, detroit, new york, chicago.

I thought we were talking about the 76-77 Habs, the players from that team were either drafted or aquired through trade.

Before the draft the big clubs sponsored junior teams and signed players within those teams, of course in those days the Habs had teams within Quebec so a high volume of French Canadian players.....however, the other 5 franchises sposored teams in the same fashion.

The only way to say the Habs had an unfair advantage is to admit French Candian players were better than the rest of North Americ combined.

 

[#juan]

Here is a link to every NHL draft:

Scroll down and you can select every year since 1962

1978 NHL Amateur Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[talloola]

Here is a link to every NHL draft:

Scroll down and you can select every year since 1962

1978 NHL Amateur Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thanks juan

I thought we were talking about the 76-77 Habs, the players from that team were either drafted or aquired through trade.

Before the draft the big clubs sponsored junior teams and signed players within those teams, of course in those days the Habs had teams within Quebec so a high volume of French Canadian players.....however, the other 5 franchises sposored teams in the same fashion.

The only way to say the Habs had an unfair advantage is to admit French Candian players were better than the rest of North Americ combined.

The rest of north america in those times, 'wasn't much', from alberta to quebec was the elite, and
any players in b.c. who were really good had to leave and go east to be noticed, and b.c. did not
have the minor hockey structure it has today, and was left far behind, the main disadvantage being
'no' outdoor rinks for kids to play 24-7., doesn't matter now, there are so many rinks today, that
kids by the thousands can play or skate all winter, and roller blades seem to be a great advantage
these days for kids to develope skills, and an easy switch over to ice skates.

My husband, at 15 was approached by a scout who was with the new york rangers, he (my husband)played hockey in
new westminster. He was asked if he could try out with their junior team, but he didn't go, it seemed
too big of a deal, immigrant parents who didn't even want him to play at all, and he had no support
system, so he said no, he didn't even tell his parents, they would have just started hollering.

But that was few and far between, to have any eastern hockey scouts snooping around in b.c., but seemed
they did it once in a while, that would have been about l952/53.

It is fair for 'all' today, and a kid only needs the support from his/her parents to get going, and
begin his hockey development, and who knows where he/she will end up, doesn't really matter as long as
they are having fun and participating, even California has a very good minor hockey program.
It's sure different here now.

And, yes the french canadian players were definitely part of the elite, because there was so much connection to
the habs, and the habs were 'so' elite and respected all over canada, and I can imagine how the french
canadian kids flocked out to try to make it onto the big team, just natural in those times.

 

[JLM]

The President's Trophy is in the bag. Just one more piece of hardware to go.