Houston Anthropologist Reveals Irrefutable Proof that Recorded History Is Wrong

[darkbeaver]

He guards himself against believing things that aren't true and knows how to test the truth content of ideas!

Merlin is reported to have had the same powers.

In this way the truth of the universe he winnows out from the chaff.

And he recommends Carl Sagan who is responsible for crippling cosmology with burning snowballs and green house gasing the brains of millions.

I do not believe in visitations from extraterrestrials but I do believe we are ruled by aliens. The world is a lot more complex than I had imagined. The lords of this world remember the past, the lords of this world need shadows, the lords of this world are time bandits. Your time and mine. Logically this is correct, conservation of power demands it be so. What makes us believe cell phones were only just invented for the first time or batteries and plasma torches are completely new to this world? Education does because education is designed to certainly keep us ignorant of the past. There is nothing new under the sun.

 

[MHz]

....... but I do know a good deal more than most people, and certainly more than you do, about how to guard myself against believing things that aren't true and how to test the truth content of ideas.

Actually I find that you are quite rigid in your current views on the few subjects we've touched on and it is my experience that in theology you give a canned response and then the subject is closed to ant 'discussion' so anything that is a reply is taken in that light you mentioned and when flustered that is your tactic

You keep demanding answers from me, and my experience is that when I provide them you just dismiss and disregard them, and you're often quite rude about it. When I don't you become scornful, as in what I've cited above. You can find these things out as easily as I can, do your own work.

Demand is hardly the right term as you promote something and then offer nothing in support of it other than you are smarter than most so you must be right and everybody else is wrong. BTW I do look for information and in that quest my view get molded by the material to a certain extent but you take it to the extreme that if Chris Dunn covers just tool marks you reply isn't about that, it is about something that nobody is an expert on. I don't think it was a power plant at all, if the river rose and fell and the caves underneath were involved it would be more like an air pump than a generator and the exit hole would not have originallt been made by thieves but by an excessive amount of air pressure. Can I prove it, no that is why I don't promote it at anything other than an idea that needs more exploration that will never get done.

 

[darkbeaver]

Not mentioned yet is the current of racism that comes with this alien first meme-IOW the locals were/are too stupid/slow/backward/ignorant to develop anything apart from fire & grunting must have been others from a higher plane who waved the magic wand of civilisation over these savages (and look what they did with it).

Are you admitting to non belief in higher orders of information/intelligence?

 

[MHz]

I thought he was admitting to being there in person.

 

[darkbeaver]

I thought he was admitting to being there in person.

There have been several off worlders post here at CC in the past.

Um. . . beav?

1. No I don't.

2. You have not the first notion of what my problems may be. Don't flatter yourself.

You are right of course I know nothing about your multiple problems. Rather than self flattery think of it as guessing. It's not a rare problem anyway, the linear thing, nothing to be ashamed about, I have a touch of it myself, treatment is inexpensive.
So back to your nonexistent problem which isn't. I was merely suggesting that human ah advancement, through time, oh my, is time linear,may not have been uni directional. That's seems a fair guess to me. How about you?

substitute endurance for advancement

 

[MHz]

More eggnog DB? lol
I'm still laughing at the wheel within a wheel comment in the Bible and the 'picture' the clergy insist is the right one compared to what a flying saucer looks like. It would explain why the world is so messed up.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

There have been several off worlders post here at CC in the past.



You are right of course I know nothing about your multiple problems. Rather than self flattery think of it as guessing. It's not a rare problem anyway, the linear thing, nothing to be ashamed about, I have a touch of it myself, treatment is inexpensive.
So back to your nonexistent problem which isn't. I was merely suggesting that human ah advancement, through time, oh my, is time linear,may not have been uni directional. That's seems a fair guess to me. How about you?

substitute endurance for advancement

A brief review of history shows human advancement ain't linear. Blood grouping, the mouldboard plow, dozens of other advances were lost for centuries or millennia. The Inka made fibers whose tensile strength wasn't equalled until Kevlar. Damascus steel was forged routinely a couple thousand years ago, and not rediscovered until the 20th century. Triple Alliance scientists created a new species, something "modern" society hasn't done yet. The Chinese sailed the world in the 14th century, then burned their fleet and lost the knowledge.

Nope, not linear. Don't take guessing.

 

[MHz]

It begins with a story of a driver who picked Sagan up at an airport to take him to a conference, found out he was "that science guy," and they got to talking: "But not, as it turned out, about science. He wanted to talk about frozen extraterrestrials languishing in an Air Force Base near San Antonio, "channeling" (a way to hear what's on the minds of dead people--not much, it turns out), crystals, the prophecies of Nostrademus, astrology, the shroud of Turin...He introduced each portentous subject with buoyant enthusiasm. Each time I had to disappoint him. 'The evidence is crummy,' I kept saying. 'There's a much simpler explanation.' "

The man was widely read, well-spoken, intelligent, and curious, but he knew nothing about how science works. Sagan ends the account this way: "Maybe [he] should know to be more skeptical about what's dished out to him by popular culture. But apart from that, it's hard to see how it's his fault. He simply accepted what the most widely available and accessible sources of information claimed was true. For his naïveté, he was systematically misled and bamboozled."

That's what's happened to you, and a few others here. I'm no Carl Sagan, I haven't his gift for explanation, or his personal charm, or his patience and kindness frankly, but my profile photo is motivated by the subtitle of that book: science as a candle in the dark.

The same Carl Sagan is the one who shot a recording from earth into deep space so 'aliens' could find it.

Voyager - The Interstellar Mission

The contents of the record were selected for NASA by a committee chaired by Carl Sagan of Cornell University, et. al. Dr. Sagan and his associates assembled 115 images and a variety of natural sounds, such as those made by surf, wind and thunder, birds, whales, and other animals. To this they added musical selections from different cultures and eras, and spoken greetings from Earth-people in fifty-five languages, and printed messages from President Carter and U.N. Secretary General Waldheim. Each record is encased in a protective aluminum jacket, together with a cartridge and a needle. Instructions, in symbolic language, explain the origin of the spacecraft and indicate how the record is to be played. The 115 images are encoded in analog form. The remainder of the record is in audio, designed to be played at 16-2/3 revolutions per minute. It contains the spoken greetings, beginning with Akkadian, which was spoken in Sumer about six thousand years ago, and ending with Wu, a modern Chinese dialect. Following the section on the sounds of Earth, there is an eclectic 90-minute selection of music, including both Eastern and Western classics and a variety of ethnic music. Once the Voyager spacecraft leave the solar system (by 1990, both will be beyond the orbit of Pluto), they will find themselves in empty space. It will be forty thousand years before they make a close approach to any other planetary system. As Carl Sagan has noted, "The spacecraft will be encountered and the record played only if there are advanced spacefaring civilizations in interstellar space. But the launching of this bottle into the cosmic ocean says something very hopeful about life on this planet."

Notice the middle one has man as having a big body and a small head while the one on the right has a big head and a small body, I find that to be hilarious.

 

[karrie]

That post didn't bother me at all, nor am I being defensive, you promoted something and you are refusing to back up that POV by posting what your scientist have determined how those pictures came about.


The one I promoted is Brein Forester and nobody has mentioned him yet let alone any point he actually made in any vid.

I never said I had scientists. I said that the way the article is written is such that it makes me doubt the scientists. I never read your posts, or made an assertion that needed backing up. All I said was that it was written poorly.

 

[MHz]

The idea behind viewing something such as this vid is to then pick a segment and make an argument for or against a specific point being made. The holes are what is being explained (or questioned if you don't agree with the theory). The 2nd vid is something I haven't watched farther than the first few minutes but it does show something that could be made to flow water as suggested but for a different reason than the one suggested. Personally I would like to see it is animation form using data that has a degree of scientific data that is known. Unfortunately no model exists that shows the weather patterns for when the Sahara had rivers flowing through it. More water then that now would make the Nile a deeper river than it is now.

0:39 in the first one is where I would start as being a place that does not match up with current scientific theory.
0:28 for the 2nd vid is something I have never seen and if I had to go there to see it it would never happen. The photography eliminates that need to a high degree but the explanation that goes with it is a proposed theory rather than it being set in stone like the established theory is.

Brien Foerster: Machining Technology Prior To The Pharaohs Of Egypt - YouTube

Exploring Tunnels UNDER Egypt's Giza Plateau Part 1 - YouTube

You seem to be rejecting the (some) 'theories' based on presentation style rather than content. as that being the marker for them being 'professionals'. John Anthony West was the pioneer in questioning the 'established view' of Giza, the director also has problems with the Law if a headline I saw lately is factual.

Dex you are correct in that any conversation we had usually ended in the 'discussion' being sidetracked into something other that 'the topic'. Like it or not when that happens it is most likely vanity is what is under threat than somebody not having the 'correct view'.

That it does happen is a sad reality but as an experiment lets try something that can be viewed as a parable rather that a 'live or die' doctrine. Does it show how a person starts out being skeptical about a new idea that is initially rejected yet over time.
A ready made subject exists in the for of Neb from the Book of Daniel and if you Sherlocked the info available it would follow the 'eliminate all the errors and what you are left with is the truth' kind of a situation. Neb was a Gentile King and is apart from the natural kings that came from the 12 Tribes as he died being as firm a believer in God as Moses was. If the lives of the natural kings was discected into point for some would have been good rulers and some would not have been. You can use that information to explain (suggest) that that is the message of the OT, what kind of actions by a 'ruler' will have good results (for the people) and which ones lead to a disaster. Apply that to the current rulers and monarchs and there could (or not) be much similarity in known rulers and the ones that are just in print. (this is nbot to prove anything, it is to see if we can chat without it going south in a dozen posts.

 

[darkbeaver]

A brief review of history shows human advancement ain't linear. Blood grouping, the mouldboard plow, dozens of other advances were lost for centuries or millennia. The Inka made fibers whose tensile strength wasn't equalled until Kevlar. Damascus steel was forged routinely a couple thousand years ago, and not rediscovered until the 20th century. Triple Alliance scientists created a new species, something "modern" society hasn't done yet. The Chinese sailed the world in the 14th century, then burned their fleet and lost the knowledge.

Nope, not linear. Don't take guessing.

I apologize for the horrible misdiagnosis. I'll refer you to a specialists, if you like, there is this guy I know who reads chicken parts.

No I don't mean to imply you have chicken parts.

More eggnog DB? lol
I'm still laughing at the wheel within a wheel comment in the Bible and the 'picture' the clergy insist is the right one compared to what a flying saucer looks like. It would explain why the world is so messed up.

Thank you, I like a touch of rum in that if you have it. Your Sagan post was funny as hell given the threads content.

 

[darkbeaver]

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Extreme Egyptian Masonry.Core-drilling - There is plenty of evidence that core-drills were used at Giza. The classic example being the tool-marks found inside the sarcophagus of the Great pyramid. As the stone that was being cut is granite, the surface of the drill-tip would have had to have included a material of equal or greater hardness in order to cut through the stone.

In itself, this is an amazing achievement, but when we look closer at the remaining drill marks, it is evident that a great amount of downwards pressure was applied to the drills as well, more than can be explained by conventional theory. The distance between the grooves created by core-drilling can be use as a measure of how much force was applied as drilling was in process. Dunn said of this
'On the granite core, No 7, the spiral of the cut sinks 0.1 inch in the circumference of 6 inches, or 1 in 60, a rate of ploughing out the quartz and feldspar which is astonishing'. The feed-rate of modern drills, Dunn calculates to be 0.0002 inch per revolution, indicating that the Egyptians drilled into granite with a feed-rate that was five hundred ties greater or deeper per revolution of the drill than modern drills. (1)
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