House Bans Obesity Lawsuits Against Fast Food Industry

Nascar_James

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I fully agree with the house lawmakers on this one. We are more than free to choose what and where we eat. Futhermore, fast food restaurants are there for our convenience when we are in a rush and need something quick to eat.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172805,00.html

House Votes to Ban 'Obesity Lawsuits' Against Fast Food Industry

Wednesday, October 19, 2005
By Todd Zwillich

House lawmakers on Wednesday passed a bill banning obesity-related lawsuits against restaurants and food manufacturers. More than 20 states already have such laws on the books.

Supporters said the bill was intended to prioritize personal responsibility among an increasingly obese American population.

“The bill seeks to block lawsuits by people because they ate too much and got fat,” says Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, one of the bill’s sponsors.

“We should not encourage lawsuits that blame others for our own choices and could bankrupt an entire industry,” notes Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas.

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Still, there is little evidence that obesity lawsuits are threatening the food and restaurant industry. Only a handful of cases blaming restaurant food or advertising for obesity have ever been filed, and only one major case remains open.

That’s a case first filed in 2002 alleging that misleading advertising by McDonald’s restaurants influenced New York teenagers to eat too much of the food and become obese. If Wednesday’s bill -- which passed 306 to 120 -- becomes law, the suit will be thrown out of court and all future suits would be banned.

Nearly two-thirds of American adults are classified as overweight and about 30 percent are obese, according to the CDC. Fifteen percent of children aged 6 to 11 are also classified as overweight.

Critics charged that courts have already functioned properly by dismissing obesity cases they found frivolous and that the bill was giving special rights to restaurants and food manufacturers.

“Congress is headed in the wrong direction with this bill, which removes any and all incentives for the food industry to improve” the healthiness of their products,” says Rep. Bob Filner, D-Calif.

The Food Products Association, an industry group headed by former Republican Congressman Cal Dooley, praised the vote in a statement that called the bill “timely and needed.”

Wednesday’s vote was the second time the House passed the lawsuit ban. An identical bill passed in March 2004 but was never acted upon in the Senate. The same fate could await this year’s bill, as Senate Republican leaders have suggested that their docket before a scheduled pre-Thanksgiving recess is already jammed.
 

MMMike

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Critics charged that courts have already functioned properly by dismissing obesity cases they found frivolous and that the bill was giving special rights to restaurants and food manufacturers.

Why is the US government proactively protecting the bottom line of fast food makers? I agree that these lawsuits should be dismissed, but this is ridiculous. Nascar even if you don't agree with these lawsuits, aren't you the least bit cynical about the reason for this ban???
 

Nascar_James

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MMMike said:
Critics charged that courts have already functioned properly by dismissing obesity cases they found frivolous and that the bill was giving special rights to restaurants and food manufacturers.

Why is the US government proactively protecting the bottom line of fast food makers? I agree that these lawsuits should be dismissed, but this is ridiculous. Nascar even if you don't agree with these lawsuits, aren't you the least bit cynical about the reason for this ban???

Good point MMMike. First I'll start off by saying that I have had my share of fast food. When I was attending high school I had two choices for lunch. Either the cafeteria food or walk to the McDonald's across the street. I usually always chose McDonalds except for pizza Thursdays, that was the one time of the week I ate at school.

I figured if I had to eat processed food, I might as well eat processed food that has some taste. Not some cardboard tasting pre-frozen meatloaf or other tasteless high school cafeteria food.

I still eat fast food a couple of times per week.

Many folks get worried due to the obesity issue with fast food. I don't see how? A burger, fry and soft drink has in the range of 1000-1200 calories. A grown man needs 2000-2500 calories per day. I get more calories eating a home cooked meal than fast food. Example, eating a steak, mashed potatoes, gravy, sweet roll, beer ...etc has way more calories. Lawsuits against fast food restaurants are simply an excuse to get money for nothing, that's all.

I really don't see where the obesity issue omes from since fast food has on average less calories than a home cooked meal. Are we going to start banning home cooked food?

In addition, fast food provides a means to eat for single folks who don't or can't cook. How are they supposed to eat an affordable meal?

For these reasons MMMike, I really hope they leave the fast food restaurants alone.
 

Laika

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"I really don't see where the obesity issue omes from since fast food has on average less calories than a home cooked meal. Are we going to start banning home cooked food? "

Fast food also has almost no nutritional value and is loaded with additives, chemicals (that good taste that you mentioned) and hydrogenated oils that contribute to an unhealthy lifestyle.

On a per dollar basis, it is cheaper to shop locally and prepare your own food than it is to eat fast food even once a week. Preparing meals at home also leads to more awareness of what people put into their bodies and is a simple, pleasing way of engaging one's senses.

I agree that lawsuits against the fast food industry is not the answer. Education and promotion of healthier lifestyles would go a long way to reducing obesity and associated health risks. I also think that fast food restaurants should put nutritional information on their packaging, not just on some crappy website that no one ever visits.

Of course, you can still serve high calorie, unhealthy home-cooked meals in oversize portions, but that's not a very wise or healthy habit. :D
 

jimmoyer

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Let the fast food companies sink or swim as they begin to notice the demand for better food.

Let the fast food companies find their way instead of having law suits bankrupt the company that provides jobs and tax income for your other favorite programs.
 

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Whether the lawsuits are valid or frivolous, will force the industry to change unhealthy practises or merely inflate prices across the board, it is not the legislatures’ function to decide, but the judicial system, with the aid of ordinary citizens empanelled on a jury.

This appears to be a matter of the House moving in advance, to protect business from consumer activism in the marketplace.
 

Nascar_James

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Laika said:
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On a per dollar basis, it is cheaper to shop locally and prepare your own food than it is to eat fast food even once a week. Preparing meals at home also leads to more awareness of what people put into their bodies and is a simple, pleasing way of engaging one's senses.

Well Laika, at my McDonald's the Big Mac combo is only $3.29 (burger, fry and drink). I don't know how you can prepare food at home for less than this.

Speaking of McDonald's I am still fuming that they've eliminated the supersize option. I used to like the supersized soft drink when ordering at the drive-thrus since we don't get any refills, unless dining within the restaurant.
 

Nascar_James

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no1important said:
Lawsuits against fast food restaurants are simply an excuse to get money for nothing, that's all.

I guess the same should go for big tobacco as well?

Not really no1. We need food to survive. It is not an option, but a necessity. Fast food is a necessity for folks who cannot cook or just don't want to cook and can't afford a good restaurant.

Tobacco on the other hand is not required. We can survive without it.
 

Laika

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Fast food is no more a necessity than smoking; it is a luxury. If you can afford fast food, you can afford to cook at home.

I can prepare a healthy, balanced meal for less than $1 per serving, and have leftovers to freeze for an instant microwave meal or to take to work for lunch the next day.
 

GL Schmitt

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You are both correct.

Anyone can cook a better, more substantial meal in their own home, for less money than any restauant.

Restaurant fare (as served in cheaper fast food outlets) is a necessity, because so many people cannot cook.

Kraft Dinner for supper more than three times a week is cruel and unusual punishment. 8O
 

Ten Packs

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Gee, I guess I should sue Shoei, the Helmet manufacturer, because I'm bald.... no, WAIT! I should sue the B.C. Social Credit Party, for passing that law back in the late 60's that MADE me wear a helmet.... What's that, you say? The Socreds are virtually non-existant now? Well, maybe I'll sue Campbell, and the Liberals, because they even HAVE former Socreds as members - even Claude RICHMOND, an Liberal MP, used to be a Socred - clearly a case of complicity to my baldness!!!

I'll take them for every dime they've got!

Feck dis shyte! One of the reasons we can still have a Medical System that (barely) works is that we DON'T have sleazy "Ambulance-chasing" Lawyers and a Legal system that allows someone to sue if they don't find a prize in their Cracker-Jack box!
Do you know what kind of Malpratice Premiums that Doctors down there have to pay, because of all the whiners and fast-buckers, hiring a lawyer every time they break a nail???


WTF kind of country are some of you trying to turn this into?

Move to the States, if you have this kind of shyte-head mentality... :evil:

"You're a victim of this, you're a victim of that;
Your mother was ugly - your Father was fat.
GET OVER IT! GET OVER IT!' ....... Don Henley
 

Nascar_James

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Laika said:
Fast food is no more a necessity than smoking; it is a luxury. If you can afford fast food, you can afford to cook at home.

I can prepare a healthy, balanced meal for less than $1 per serving, and have leftovers to freeze for an instant microwave meal or to take to work for lunch the next day.

What about the folks who don't cook? Those folks don't even own a stove. They rely on fast food restaurants for food.
 

Nascar_James

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Ten Packs said:
Gee, I guess I should sue Shoei, the Helmet manufacturer, because I'm bald.... no, WAIT! I should sue the B.C. Social Credit Party, for passing that law back in the late 60's that MADE me wear a helmet.... What's that, you say? The Socreds are virtually non-existant now? Well, maybe I'll sue Campbell, and the Liberals, because they even HAVE former Socreds as members - even Claude RICHMOND, an Liberal MP, used to be a Socred - clearly a case of complicity to my baldness!!!

I'll take them for every dime they've got!

You should move down here, Ten Packs. Oklahoma is truly a freedom loving state. There is no helmet law here for bikers. You are free to ride without a helmet.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Nascar_James said:
Ten Packs said:
Gee, I guess I should sue Shoei, the Helmet manufacturer, because I'm bald.... no, WAIT! I should sue the B.C. Social Credit Party, for passing that law back in the late 60's that MADE me wear a helmet.... What's that, you say? The Socreds are virtually non-existant now? Well, maybe I'll sue Campbell, and the Liberals, because they even HAVE former Socreds as members - even Claude RICHMOND, an Liberal MP, used to be a Socred - clearly a case of complicity to my baldness!!!

I'll take them for every dime they've got!

You should move down here, Ten Packs. Oklahoma is truly a freedom loving state. There is no helmet law here for bikers. You are free to ride without a helmet.


sounds too much like an invite for brain damage ......and not sure one would call this a real "freedom'.
 

Twila

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What about the folks who don't cook? Those folks don't even own a stove. They rely on fast food restaurants for food.

There are people out there who can't heat up a can of something? or can't boil water? If they can afford to eat out everyday then they can afford a stove.

TenPacks, become a Seikh. Then you don't have to wear a helmet, just a turban and you can carry a big ass sword too!!!! How cool would that be?
 

Nascar_James

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Twila said:
There are people out there who can't heat up a can of something? or can't boil water? If they can afford to eat out everyday then they can afford a stove.

As unbelievable as that may sound, I'm afraid it's true, Twila. I know this for a fact. Some of the single guys living by themselves would not even know how to boil water and don't own a stove. A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.
 

Twila

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A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.

Priorities like that and we women let you men think you were ruling the world?!?! Sheesh!
 

Ocean Breeze

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Nascar_James said:
Twila said:
There are people out there who can't heat up a can of something? or can't boil water? If they can afford to eat out everyday then they can afford a stove.

As unbelievable as that may sound, I'm afraid it's true, Twila. I know this for a fact. Some of the single guys living by themselves would not even know how to boil water and don't own a stove. A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.

hmm. well the giant TV does have programming for COOKING ......and self reliance...;-)---and Martha is back with a fervor. Not even a microwave oven???
 

Ten Packs

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Nascar_James said:
You should move down here, Ten Packs. Oklahoma is truly a freedom loving state. There is no helmet law here for bikers. You are free to ride without a helmet.

Anyone who rides without a helmet has nothing to protect!