House Bans Obesity Lawsuits Against Fast Food Industry

Ten Packs

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Twila said:
A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.

Priorities like that and we women let you men think you were ruling the world?!?! Sheesh!

Yeah Twila, but you notice that those guys are all SINGLE, right?

"Dem Womun's - dey ain't stupid-in-da-head, no-suh!"
 

Nascar_James

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Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
Twila said:
There are people out there who can't heat up a can of something? or can't boil water? If they can afford to eat out everyday then they can afford a stove.

As unbelievable as that may sound, I'm afraid it's true, Twila. I know this for a fact. Some of the single guys living by themselves would not even know how to boil water and don't own a stove. A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.

hmm. well the giant TV does have programming for COOKING ......and self reliance...;-)---and Martha is back with a fervor. Not even a microwave oven???

Martha? Hah! ... Emeril rules!
 

Ocean Breeze

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Ten Packs said:
Nascar_James said:
You should move down here, Ten Packs. Oklahoma is truly a freedom loving state. There is no helmet law here for bikers. You are free to ride without a helmet.

Anyone who rides without a helmet has nothing to protect!

Touche!!. :thumbright: :thumbleft:
 

Ocean Breeze

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Nascar_James said:
Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
Twila said:
There are people out there who can't heat up a can of something? or can't boil water? If they can afford to eat out everyday then they can afford a stove.

As unbelievable as that may sound, I'm afraid it's true, Twila. I know this for a fact. Some of the single guys living by themselves would not even know how to boil water and don't own a stove. A giant screen TV yes, but not a stove.

hmm. well the giant TV does have programming for COOKING ......and self reliance...;-)---and Martha is back with a fervor. Not even a microwave oven???

Martha? Hah! ... Emeril rules!

Would go with that.. :)
 

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Sooner or later Americans (and Canadians, to a lesser extent) will clue in that the number 1 (or 2, cant remember if smoking is first) preventable cause of death is obesity (cardiovascular disease), and a big reason is because of the fast food industry. But that is no reason to sue them, its not as if people have no choice in what they eat. And even if they do have to eat out all the time, there are healthy alternatives. Not only is it unhealthy eating, people exercise less too, which is just as bad. I always hear politicians say that we should eat right and be active, but think about it, if people actually did this. You know how much money our government would save on health care?
 

Nascar_James

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yballa09 said:
Sooner or later Americans (and Canadians, to a lesser extent) will clue in that the number 1 (or 2, cant remember if smoking is first) preventable cause of death is obesity (cardiovascular disease), and a big reason is because of the fast food industry. But that is no reason to sue them, its not as if people have no choice in what they eat. And even if they do have to eat out all the time, there are healthy alternatives. Not only is it unhealthy eating, people exercise less too, which is just as bad. I always hear politicians say that we should eat right and be active, but think about it, if people actually did this. You know how much money our government would save on health care?

I would think that for most folks, eating at home would contribute more to the "obesity" factor. As I mentioned earlier, a fast food meal has about 1000-1200 calories, wheras a homecooked meal typically has more. Why doesn't anyone bring up the obesity factor with home cooked food? For example, I know for sure that having a roast beef dinner at home , with all the trimmings has more than 1200 calories.
 

Laika

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RE: House Bans Obesity La

Home cooked food does not typically have more calories than a fast food meal, unless you are breading and deep frying everything or covering it with tons of gravy and passing up the good stuff like fruits, veggies, lean meats, low fat dairy, whole grains, etc. You know, stuff with flavour and nutrients!! :)

I guess I just don't get what's so great about fast food (other than convenience). The stuff tastes like cardboard soaked in oil. The options go from greasy to greasier; unless you opt for a "healthy" option which usually involves some limp, anemic-looking vegetables that look and taste strangely artificial. Then there is the waste factor involved in all the packaging; everything from the wrappers to the individual serving packets are designed to be completely disposable.

Like the food itself, it's all garbage.
 

Ocean Breeze

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I know this for a fact. Some of the single guys living by themselves would not even know how to boil water

...........and that is why they are "single"... :wink:
 

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Nascar_James

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Laika said:
Home cooked food does not typically have more calories than a fast food meal, unless you are breading and deep frying everything

Laika, how do you cook a steak indoors without frying? Outdoors, you can bar-b-cue. I have a George Foreman grill, so we (wife and myself) use it occasionally for our steaks. However, before we bought the Foreman grill if the weather out wasn't sutable for bar-b-cue-ing, we had no choice but to fry our steaks.
 

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mrmom2 said:
Uhmm Nascar thats like an order of Mcdonalds french fries :roll:

Not really mrmom. According to my wife's calorie count book (it has calorie counts of all foods in all fast food restaurants), depending on the size, McDonalds fries have calorie counts of 325, 450 and 545 calories (we used to have the supersized fry which had a calorie count of 610 calories). Considering a typical home cooked meal comprising of fried chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, corn on the cob, sweet biscuit, beer, dessert ... you'll easily hit 2000-2500 calories for the whole meal.

A McDonald's fast food meal with soft drink included has 1000-1200 calories.

There is a substantial difference.
 

GL Schmitt

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Nascar_James said:
. . .before we bought the Foreman grill if the weather out wasn't sutable for bar-b-cue-ing, we had no choice but to fry our steaks.
Every stove I ever encountered had a grill in the bottom.

Most women I know use it to store their large pots and pan.

But Foreman has a large family, and can probably make better use of your money than you can. :lol:
 

Laika

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A Big Mac meal (burger, large fries, large Coke): 1400 calories, with 55 grams of fat. Based on a 2000 calorie per day diet, that is 85% of your daily recommended fat intake. That is directly from McDonald's own site: http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa/eat/nutrition_info.html

On 2000 cal/day, that leaves you 600 calories for breakfast and lunch, or 300 calories per meal. Ouch. Even an anorexic fashion model would be feeling hungry again soon after.

Your idea of a home-cooked meal is loaded with fat and carbs and does not offer many of the vital nutrients we need from fresh vegetables and whole grains. I guess corn is good for you, until you soak it in more fat and salt.

My idea of a home cooked meal is a marinated & grilled chicken breast (we rarely eat red meat, less than once a week), a cup of fresh or steamed veggies and a cup of brown rice pilaf or a small baked potato and all the fresh, cold water you can drink. Total calories about 800. A good balance of protein and carbs and low in fat. Plus, lots of minerals and vitamins and absolutely delicous.

Portion control is also a very important concept. If you are going to be eating the kinds of foods you listed in your home cooked meal, the *proper* portions would be so tiny it would be a joke. Portions of a healthy, balanced meal tend to be more generous and since you are getting a good balance in protein, fat, and carbs you tend to be satisfied longer and don't feel the need to snack through the day.

You and the missus should try eating healthy for a few weeks. You will be surprised how much yummy food there is that is actually good for you! Within a couple weeks, I guarantee you will be feeling better, sleeping better and have more overall energy. It takes a little bit of effort to learn how to eat healthy, but it's not too difficult and you don't have to completely give up the foods you love, just try to cut back or save them for special occassions like birthdays, holidays, or get-togethers.

:)
 

Nascar_James

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no1important said:
I was looking at those George Forman grills today. I almost bought one. Are they really that good to use?

Yep. We have the Limited Edition Anniversary Special. It grills quickly and eliminates the fat and grease by letting it drip into a small drip tray (included) that you place in the front of the grill.

I have used it to grill steak, shrimp, swordfish, pork chops, hamburger ... etc).