Honoring the Dead

triedit

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Many religions have ceremony and ritual for honoring those who have passed to wherever--heaven, reincarnation, whatever you believe. Samhain/Halloween and All Saints Day are age old tributes and celebrations of our dead. In the western world, we tend to do it at memorial day, or at the graveside or funeral chapel.

As Samhain/Halloween and All Saints Day are fast approaching, I'd like to hear stories about people in your life who have past. Post about them and honor thier memory.

Today Im remembering my great grandmother, Lucinda Nancy Tatman Hutchison Houston Whitt. We called her "Mama Lou" and I was fortunate to know her in my earliest years. I remember her apron with it's tiny flowers and her soft silver hair. I remember how she would pat me on the hand and tell me she could see I was going to be an important person. I remember her telling me that the women in our family share a gift--and my grandmother would always interrupt her at that point and tell her to stop filling me full of "nonsense".

I love my Mama Lou still.

Who do you remember?
 

Unforgiven

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Halloween is a "religious day" but it is NOT a Christian day. Tom Sanguinet, former high priest in the Celtic tradition of Wicca (witchcraft) said "The modern holiday we call Halloween has its origins in the full moon closest to November 1, the witches’ New Year. It was a time when the "spirits" (demons) were supposed to be at their peak power and revisiting the earth planet." He went on to say, "Halloween is purely and absolutely evil, and there is nothing we ever have or will do that would make it acceptable to the Lord Jesus."

What is the man talking about, you might be asking yourself? Let me explain. The origin of Halloween is the Celtic Festival of Samhain, lord of death and evil spirits. Long before Christ (at least 2000 years), Druids in Britain, Ireland, Scotland, France, Germany and other Celtic countries observed the end of summer by making sacrifices to Samhain. The Celts considered November 1st as being the day of death because the leaves were falling, it was getting darker sooner and temperatures were dropping. They believed Muck Olla, their sun god was losing strength and Samhain, lord of death, was overpowering him. Further, they believed that on October 31st Samhain assembled the spirits of all who had died during the previous year. These spirits had been confined to inhabit animals’ bodies for the past year, as punishment for their evil deeds. They were allowed to return to their former home to visit the lving on the eve (Oct. 31) of the Feast of Samhain. Druid priests led the people in diabolical worship ceremonies in which horses, cats, black sheep, oxen, human beings and other offerings were rounded up, stuffed into wicker cages and burned to death. This was done to appease Samhain and keep spirits from harming them. It is clear to see that HALLOWEEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CELEBRATION OF DEATH.

Which brings me to my next point. How were these sacrifices obtained? Druid priests and people would go from house to house asking for fatted calves, black sheep, and human beings. Those who gave were promised prosperity and those who refused to give were cursed and threatened. In addition, it was likely that all of the "wandering spirits" would get hungry. If you set out a treat for them, they would not trick or curse you. Hence we have THE ORIGIN OF TRICK OR TREAT. "Trick or Treat is a reenactment of the Druidic practices. The candy has replaced the human sacrifices of old, but it is still an appeasement of those deceptive evil spirits. The traditional response to those who do not treat is to have a trick played on the. When you give out Halloween candy, you are, in essence providing a sacrifice to false gods. You are participating in idolatry" says the former high priest of Wicca, Tom Sanguinet.

Did you know that even the Jack-O-Lantern has its origin with these pagan practices? In the book Occult Conceit the author says on page 190, "The candlelit pumpkin or skull served as a signal to mark those farms and homes that were sympathetic to the Satanists and thus deserving of mercy when the terror ("trick or treat") of the night began." Further, an old edition of The World Book Encyclopedia says "The apparently harmless lighted pumpkin face of the Jack-O-Lantern is an ancient symbol of a damned soul."

What about COSTUMES? They originated with these terrible Druid death rites also. As people and animals were screeching in agony while being burned to death the observers would dress in costumes made of animal skins and heads. They would dance, chant and jump through the flames in hope warding off the evil spirits.

It is obvious that Halloween is a pagan day rooted in the worst kind of pagan rituals and worship. The Bible urges Christians to "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness" (Ephesians 5:!1). Through Halloween is diluted somewhat there is obviously nothing Christ honoring about the day. It is a pagan sacrifice day and the Bible warns Christians "the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that you should have fellowship with devils." (1 Corinthians 10:20). Halloween is the devil’s day!

You could not celebrate Halloween without the WITCH. The oldest known illustration of a witch dates back to the pre-Columbian era. He drawing shows the pagan goddess Tlazolteolf naked, wearing a pointed hat and riding a broomstick. Where you find witchcraft you will find nudity, divination, gross immorality and occultic practices just to name a few. According to the Old Testament of the Bible witchcraft and the whole spectrum of the occult were capital crimes, punishable by death. In the New Testament, in Galatians 5:20, witchcraft is listed among those things that are to be renounced by believers. In fact, Acts 19:18-19 records how that those who became Christians renounced all dealings with the occult and burned any occultic material they had. Popular west coast Bible teacher Dr. John MacArthur expresses it clearly enough when he says, "Dressing up like witches, ghosts, or goblins is incompatible with a Christian’s testimony. Furthermore, many of the customs of Halloween are associated with the worst kind of pagan ceremonies; they are usually centered on the sinister things such as demons, witchcraft, and superstition."

The other heroes of Halloween aren’t any better. Consider Dracula. Did you know he was a real person? He live from 1431 to 1476. During his six year reign this demented maniac massacred 100,000 men, women and children in the most hideous ways. He devised a plan to rid his country of the burden of beggars, handicapped, sick and aged. He invited them to a feast at one of his palaces. He fed them well and got them drunk. Then he asked them, "Do you want to be without cares, lacking nothing in this world?" They yelled "YES!" Dracula then ordered the palace boarded up and set it on fire. No one escaped. This tragic event was the original House of Horror.

The overwhelming majority of Halloween Heroes are evil, demented or demonic. That should not surprise us. Halloween is the devil’s day! But there is something else that concerns me even more

Halloween is a dangerous day and here are the reasons why...

HALLOWEEN IS FOCUSED ON VIOLENCE

In January of 1988 I stopped at a restaurant to pick up a bite to eat before my next appointment. I picked up a paper on the way in. As I was eating I came across Ann Landers’ column entitled "Parents must tackle violence." The parent wrote "I heard something today that made my hair stand on end...Last October, the teacher of a fourth-grade class asked her students to write a short essay on what they would like to do most to celebrate Halloween. Eighty percent of her 9 year-olds expressed the wish to "kill somebody." Where do children get such ideas?" she asked.

The answer is a simple one. Halloween accentuates mutilation, murder, blood, guts and gore. It even glorifies it! I well remember seeing the large picture in the newspaper of a mutilated corpse in a blood stained bathtub. It was utterly repulsive. The accompanying article lauded a community organization’s youth work using this "haunted house."

The truth is, millions of people, and likely your kids will be exposed to some of the almost endless string f TV programs, videos, community and church activities that GLORIFY MUTILATION, TORTURE, and BIZARRE MURDERS this Halloween. Now before you say "it won’t hurt them, it’s only fantasy," perhaps you should consider what a horrified mother discovered in her teenage son’s diary. She read "Last year I stole a car at Halloween and ran over a kid and killed him for the Devil. I plan on doing it again this year." The boy is now incarcerated.

HALLOWEEN IS HARMFULL BECAUSE OF ITS FOCUS ON VIOLENCE. Don’t you see the paradox? When we read of a violent murder any other time we gasp. But we laugh, tease, call it fun and glorify the same things when Halloween comes. Halloween’s focus on VIOLENCE breaks down the inhibitions of our children toward murder. They have difficulty separating between fantasy and fact. And that is taking its toll on our society. There is another reason Halloween is harmful...

HALLOWEEN IS HARMFUL BECAUSE OF THE EMPHASIS ON FEAR

I read an article in The Milwaukee Journal entitled "Haunted house fun: It could become nightmare for kids." It started out "IT’S JUST FOR FUN, you know that. But to a young child, a trip through a "haunted house" created for Halloween could be a nightmare." Fear is no joke. Fear is a powerful and often damaging emotion. The writer of the article quoted developmental psychologist Marvin Berkowitz of Marquette University. Berkowitz said "Some haunted houses can frighten an adult." Children must "go in with the right mental set. Make sure they know it’s going to be a fun scare, not a real scare." The article went on to say, "even the most careful parents can misjudge their child’s reaction. If the child is horrified, if the kid’s traumatized and shrieking, you hold him and comfort him. Give him physical security." The question is, why expose your child to such traumatizing influences? They serve no useful purpose. In fact long lasting emotional problems can develop as a result of the frightening experiences that are encountered at Halloween activities, such as going through a "haunted house."

But there is another aspect I want to share with you relating to fear. Dr. Grace Katterman M.D. says in her book, You and Your Child’s Problems: How to Understand and Solve Them "a tragic by-product of fear in the lives of children as early as pre-adolescence is the interest and involvement in supernatural occult phenomena." Which leads me to the next point.

HALLOWEEN IS HARMFUL BECAUSE OF ITS FOCUS ON THE OCCULT

The two most frequent ways children are introduced into the occult are through rock music and Halloween. I was introduced to the occult at a Halloween party. Tragically, more an more children are being introduced to the occult by teachers in the public schools. And unfortunately, Halloween is one of the two Holidays that public schools celebrate. They choose Halloween (and Valentine’s Day) because supposedly there is no "religious" significance. How wrong they are about Halloween. To be sure, there is no Christian significance to Halloween but it is obviously a religious day.

Our forefathers recognized Halloween’s association with the occult. The Pilgrims banned celebrating Halloween in America. The ban lasted until 1845. At that time multiplied thousands of Irish emigrants flooded into New York because of the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-46. They brought Halloween with them and gradually it spread throughout the rest of the country.
 

YoungJoonKim

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Unforgiven sums my thought..and much more..
but I realized that every year, people are not getting excited about Halloween.
I don't know about Toronto or Montreal because I live in a town
 

Twila

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All Saints Day (November 1) is a Christian Holiday.

Do you have no dead to honor? Or are you just spoiling for a fight?
could be that the christians 'borrowed" another holiday. They've done that with Christmas and Easter. Helped to bring the pagans around to being good little christians..it was that or kill them...
 

Unforgiven

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Hey relax Robin! I just read that the other day and thought of how completely different a take on Halloween it was next to yours. Maybe there should be a little more room in your world for views that aren't a perfect match of your own.

Honouring the dead means posting it to a forum that "just a forum" on the Internet so people can bicker over it and hurl insults back and forth? Again here I think there is another way than the one you've come up with. But thanks anyway, you go ahead.

That the first conclusion you jump to is to fight, is probably an indication of just how indoctrinated in the bitter hateful world your current friend has dragged you into. For my part, I have no urge to kick someone when their down.

What an amazing crock of ****.

All Saints Day (November 1) is a Christian Holiday.

Do you have no dead to honor? Or are you just spoiling for a fight?
 

lone wolf

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I have several adopted brothers of First Nation ancestry. One speaks of a Huron heritage. Who am I to argue.... Me? being of British Christian background, how we honour our dead seems rather boring - more like something for the living to show a respect they seldom did while the deceased still walked among us. The Huron Festival of the Dead....

"they summon a general assembly at which, among other things, the delegates decide when and where the next festival of the dead will be held. Then they each return to their own district and uncover the bones of those who have died since the last festival. These are carefully cleaned and preserved, though they smell like newly-buried bodies. At the appointed time the relatives and friends of the dead bring the bones, together with necklaces, skins, tomahawks, pots and other valuables, and a quantity of food, to the chosen place. There they lay down their burdens and give themselves up to dancing and feasting for the ten days of the festival. Tribes come from all over the country to take part in the ceremonies. The dancing, the feasting, the general councils all serve to renew and strengthen old friendships. As a symbol of goodwill they mingle the bones of their relatives and friends with one another, saying that just as the bones of the dead are gathered in one place, so also the living will be united in friendship, as one people, as long as they live. They make a number of speeches over the bones and then after making certain faces and signs they dig a big trench sixty feet square and bury all the bones in it, together with the necklaces, beads, tomahawks, pots, knives and other trinkets they have brought with them. This they cover with earth and on top of that they build a wooden canopy supported on four posts. The burial of the dead is the most solemn of their festivals." Samuel de Champlain 1618


Woof!​
 
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Twila

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There's nothing like an old-fashioned Irish wake to honor the dead........

No, there certainly isn't. I think they had it right...ones life should be celebrated...to mourn your loss if your christian is incredibly selfish...