Hoax: President George W. Bush was a slacker

[Francis2004]

I have always been one to look and try to decide what was fact and what was lies..

I remember this being told and rehashed as truth.

Now you may not like G W Bush but you cannot take away from him his past..

So let is set the record straight..

Hoax: President George W. Bush was a slacker during his time with the National Guard. CBS' '60 Minutes' aired a an interview and presented documents that more or less said Bush got into the thanks to nepotism and then went against an order. The documents spread widely across the Internet and many bloggers said they were fakes. An independent panel announced in January 2005 that CBS News hadn't strictly followed journalistic principles. If there was any truth to this hoax, it seems to be buried. (AP Photo/George Bush Presidential Library/File)

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[countryboy]

I have always been one to look and try to decide what was fact and what was lies..

Oh boy, this is gonna' be good. Does 'can of worms' come to mind? Francis, you're just looking for some honest input here, right? (Just wanted to be sure before the fireworks start)

 

[TenPenny]

I was reading an article by Malcolm Gladwell, about the Dog Whisperer, and in it he mentions that GWBush doesn't have the ability to change his body language so that he appears more serious and informed.

I think that a lot of the perceptions of Bush Jr were based on that - his body language never made him look serious, and that acts on a subconscious level.

 

[Avro]

I have always been one to look and try to decide what was fact and what was lies..

I remember this being told and rehashed as truth.

Now you may not like G W Bush but you cannot take away from him his past..

So let is set the record straight..



Canoe.ca -- Technology: Top Web Hoaxes

Bush took the most holidays by far over any other president...he was a slacker who let others run the debacle for him.

 

[Francis2004]

Oh boy, this is gonna' be good. Does 'can of worms' come to mind? Francis, you're just looking for some honest input here, right? (Just wanted to be sure before the fireworks start)

Yup honest

If you want to collaborate this or discredit it, your choice.. To open a "can of worms" was not my intent, but rather inform people of what was presented as evidence.. If people believe it should not be so, then present your "Facts" to show different and enlighten us all.. ;-)

 

[Francis2004]

I was reading an article by Malcolm Gladwell, about the Dog Whisperer, and in it he mentions that GWBush doesn't have the ability to change his body language so that he appears more serious and informed.

I think that a lot of the perceptions of Bush Jr were based on that - his body language never made him look serious, and that acts on a subconscious level.

Body language can be deceiving..

So are first impressions..

People need to get past all that bull craps we have been fed for all these years..

It's a good starting point but not a full assessment tool..

 

[countryboy]

Yup honest

If you want to collaborate this or discredit it, your choice.. To open a "can of worms" was not my intent, but rather inform people of what was presented as evidence.. If people believe it should not be so, then present your "Facts" to show different and enlighten us all.. ;-)

I was just joshin' about the can of worms. :-? Probably not a very controversial subject at all. :lol:

Unfortunately, I don't have any more facts that the general public. I have opinions (and I'm likely not the only one!) but they would likely not add to the discussion value. Let's see what pops up...

Oh, and I have a casual observation - don't know if this would help the cause or not - I have a suspicion that being the President of the U.S. is likely not an easy job. In fact, it is probably the most difficult job in the world. I don't envy anyone in that role, no matter whether they're left, right, wrong, or otherwise. Can't imagine anyone ever doing it "perfectly"...some might do it better than others, or at least look better doing it.

 

[YukonJack]

"Bush took the most holidays by far over any other president...he was a slacker who let others run the debacle for him."

An American President (and probably a Canadian Prime Minister, as well) never really has a holiday, while in office. The "RED" phone is always there.

So any and all complaining and bitching about G.W. Bush's holidays is just sour grapes.

BTW, there was a lot of flak about GW Bush not jumping to action immediately upon hearing about 9/11, but reading to the kids, for another 2 minutes, how about Zerobama not reacting to the news of the "Christmas Bomber" for 72 hours? While he was on holidays?

 

[Francis2004]

To any Presidents credit, they are on 24 hrs alert.. There is no sleep time..

If we are to get into semantics, I believe Carter took the least amount of time followed by Clinton in modern days.. However I am just working off memory and you can bother to look them up..

The original records being discussed was the time in the National Guard.. Records state Bush had got in thanks to nepotism and then went against an order as per the CBS article..

But hey if you want to move along, go right ahead..

 

[YukonJack]

And by now we all - except the most rabid liberals - know that Dan Rather's "proof" that GW Bush was a draft dodger was nothing but an amateourish attempt at forgery.

 

[Kreskin]

He wasn't bad, for a scoundrel.

 

[YukonJack]

"He wasn't bad, for a scoundrel"

You must be talking about Bill Clinton.

 

[MHz]

And by now we all - except the most rabid liberals - know that Dan Rather's "proof" that GW Bush was a draft dodger was nothing but an amateourish attempt at forgery.

That's right, you can't go AWOL if you never joined.
Didn't he have the dangerous 2yr mission of serving on some Governor's election campaign? Can't do that if you are hiding in Canada along with the other dodgers.

 

[YukonJack]

"That's right, you can't go AWOL if you never joined.

Didn't he have the dangerous 2yr mission of serving on some Governor's election campaign? Can't do that if you are hiding in Canada along with the other dodgers."

GW Bush served in the National Guard. DID BIll Clinton?

On one hand you and your ilk complain that Bush never visited Canada, now you complain that he was hiding out here?

 

[countryboy]

"He wasn't bad, for a scoundrel"

You must be talking about Bill Clinton.

People in high positions like that often turn to various forms of "stress relief" as I'm sure it gets a bit pressurized in the White House from time to time. Heck, they might even become "soundrels" in their own individual way(s)...

In this case, you mean old "BJ Clinton?" (Isn't his middle name "Jefferson?") Thus, William [Bill] Jefferson = BJ, yes? (What did you think I was talking about?) :lol:

 

[MHz]

now you complain that he was hiding out here?

Actually I give him credit, I didn't know he was hiding in Canada until you just told me. Apparently he was quite good at it, maybe he should have made a career out of it.

 

[MHz]

People in high positions like that often turn to various forms of "stress relief" as I'm sure it gets a bit pressurized in the White House from time to time. Heck, they might even become "soundrels" in their own individual way(s)...

Just how far back in the country are you? Do you know what a fence is? Do you know what an overpass is ?

 

[countryboy]

Just how far back in the country are you? Do you know what a fence is? Do you know what an overpass is ?

Far enough from the madness. Yep, quite familiar with fences of all kinds. Overpasses? Sure. I've driven over them all over the world including Paris, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul, New York, LA, and a bunch of other places. Have you?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Bush took the most holidays by far over any other president...he was a slacker who let others run the debacle for him.

Quite so, Avro. Darth Vader (Dick Cheney for the uninitiated) was the real power behind the throne.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Body language can be deceiving..

So are first impressions..

People need to get past all that bull craps we have been fed for all these years..

It's a good starting point but not a full assessment tool..

Maybe so, Francis. However, in politics, perception is reality. Like it or not, that is how politics works.

So if body language is not all that it should be, that is enough to damn a politician. A very good example of that was the Nixon – Kennedy debate. Those who listened to it on radio thought that Nixon won the debate. However on television he came across a fidgety, nervous, sweaty. Those who saw the debate on TV thought that Kennedy won the debate, and it did Nixon plenty of harm.

A politician must work on his body language and make sure that his body language is desirable. If body language is not all as it should be, nobody will give the politician a second glance. It is like the packaging on a product. The product may be good, but if the packaging is unattractive, horrible, nobody will give the product itself a second glance.