History Lesson For Anti-Americans
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Colpy said:
You are right about it. The entry for US to war was inevitable. And during the Second Battle of the Atlantic even Americans ships were sunk. But US wouldn't, perphaps, the war as they did as the result of Pearl Harbor.
And US ships, that were moving toward GB, were also protected by military ships.
dekhqonbacha said:
HUH?!
You'd best re-read that page of your history textbook.
June 6, 1944 , D-Day at Normandy, was the invasion of Fortress Europe by British, Canadian ad US forces under the command of US General Dwight D. Eisenhower. By June 11, 1944 there were 326,000 Allied troops ashore, most of them Americans..
I'd say they kept their promise.
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Even more than Canadians, the Mexicans, Latin Americans and South Americans will tell you that they are AMERICAN. In the common usage of the self centered US of A, America means the US of A, but in the rest of the world, many countries are insulted by this attitude as in THEIR common usage they are American.
Dexter Sinister said:
Even more than Canadians, the Mexicans, Latin Americans and South Americans will tell you that they are AMERICAN. In the common usage of the self centered US of A, America means the US of A, but in the rest of the world, many countries are insulted by this attitude as in THEIR common usage they are American.
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I was in Costa Rica, didn't hear that - in fact, they seemed more concerned about what Americans were up to, fashion wise, stuff like that - not all, but many of the young were. Not that i'm saying your full of crap, or anything.
But that was a loooooooong time ago, before I cared about culture and stuff.
fuzzylogix said:
I was in Costa Rica, didn't hear that - in fact, they seemed more concerned about what Americans were up to, fashion wise, stuff like that - not all, but many of the young were. Not that i'm saying your full of crap, or anything.
But that was a loooooooong time ago, before I cared about culture and stuff.
dekhqonbacha said:
Am I missing something here?
You said the Americans broke their promse to send troops to western Europe in the spring of 1944.
I pointed out that D Day was June 6, 1944. You posted a link about the Tehran Conference.
What's your point?
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Classic post from a citizen of the united states of America, while trying to point out how great and good the US of A is, they manage to offend pretty much everyone around them.
It does make you wonder what the world would be like if there were no world war one, it's quite possible that the world would be a very different place, Britain would side with it's traditional allies (the germans), keep the cordial etate or whatever, I think it would be safe to save if europehadnt spent the first half of the 20th century in-wardly fighting, a European Union could very well have been established wich would easily be more powerful than the US, as opposed to slowly becoming more powerful (like they are now)
But "What if's", what if, the two most painful of human words. I dont want to have this arguement again about Co-operation or Colonialisation/Imperialism....fact is, where do you draw the line, sure, you withdraw yourself from Japan, Afghanistan, South Korea (all though they all retain a pro-US representation)...how about the Shah of Iran, that foreign meddling didnt help, but no, I digress, simply put, ok, over the world the US goes home, but being that there's a bunch of people who've lived in "America" for thousands of years and do not see most "americans" as owning the land they stand on, well then saying the US isnt a colonial power is a bit of a grey area....I dont want any arguements on the subject, but at least they have their own provence in Canada (however remote).
And the Manpower the US has are usually just immigrants from all over the world too, sheer numbers will tell you that when millions from all over the world converge on one continent, you get a few people, thus a lot of manpower.
I would just like to say I am not actually anti-US, I just feel that sometimes...well it's complicated
Classic post from a citizen of the united states of America, while trying to point out how great and good the US of A is, they manage to offend pretty much everyone around them.
It does make you wonder what the world would be like if there were no world war one, it's quite possible that the world would be a very different place, Britain would side with it's traditional allies (the germans), keep the cordial etate or whatever, I think it would be safe to save if europehadnt spent the first half of the 20th century in-wardly fighting, a European Union could very well have been established wich would easily be more powerful than the US, as opposed to slowly becoming more powerful (like they are now)
But "What if's", what if, the two most painful of human words. I dont want to have this arguement again about Co-operation or Colonialisation/Imperialism....fact is, where do you draw the line, sure, you withdraw yourself from Japan, Afghanistan, South Korea (all though they all retain a pro-US representation)...how about the Shah of Iran, that foreign meddling didnt help, but no, I digress, simply put, ok, over the world the US goes home, but being that there's a bunch of people who've lived in "America" for thousands of years and do not see most "americans" as owning the land they stand on, well then saying the US isnt a colonial power is a bit of a grey area....I dont want any arguements on the subject, but at least they have their own provence in Canada (however remote).
And the Manpower the US has are usually just immigrants from all over the world too, sheer numbers will tell you that when millions from all over the world converge on one continent, you get a few people, thus a lot of manpower.
I would just like to say I am not actually anti-US, I just feel that sometimes...well it's complicated
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Well then they should send a letter of complaint to the British and Europeans that started referring to the residents of the 13 colonies as Americans, in a condescending way I might add.
And I have been to Mexico and other areas of Central America, I have never heard of anyone even touch the subject.
fuzzylogix said:
Well then they should send a letter of complaint to the British and Europeans that started referring to the residents of the 13 colonies as Americans, in a condescending way I might add.
And I have been to Mexico and other areas of Central America, I have never heard of anyone even touch the subject.
Colpy
yes you missed the quote from Tehran Conference where Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill promised to open second front on spring of 1944.
And you suggested me to re-read that page of my history textbook. And I did.
yes you missed the quote from Tehran Conference where Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill promised to open second front on spring of 1944.
And you suggested me to re-read that page of my history textbook. And I did.
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it's never always black and white ITN.....never that easy, the US and it's citizens have some very good points, but also some very irritating ones, same with everyother country on the planet...complicated it is.
Fact is, the US have had some very lucky breaks to become what they currently are.....one point though, 2 south american countries share the power of 1 Dam to power them, why, if the US is all great and good, do they need 3, all the coal they can take from the state of virginia, nuclear power and as much oild as they can gather from around the world to stay afloat eh?.
In the world today, the previous point I think is more relevant than colonialsm and imperialism, so as I say, it's difficult.
I think not said:
it's never always black and white ITN.....never that easy, the US and it's citizens have some very good points, but also some very irritating ones, same with everyother country on the planet...complicated it is.
Fact is, the US have had some very lucky breaks to become what they currently are.....one point though, 2 south american countries share the power of 1 Dam to power them, why, if the US is all great and good, do they need 3, all the coal they can take from the state of virginia, nuclear power and as much oild as they can gather from around the world to stay afloat eh?.
In the world today, the previous point I think is more relevant than colonialsm and imperialism, so as I say, it's difficult.
Yes, we are all about luck, other countries rushing to our aid, we absolutely had nothing to do with bringing the country to where it is today, nothing at all.
And I have no idea what you're trying to say about a dam in South America, are you drunk by chance? Your sentences are not coherent.
And I have no idea what you're trying to say about a dam in South America, are you drunk by chance? Your sentences are not coherent.
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am i drunk lol....I'm very ill actually, I've not drunk for years...never heard of the worlds largest dam near the amazon then?
and America has been very "fortunate" in the hand fate has delt it, dont make this into a bleedin personal row again ITN, we live in a world were not everyone is gonna like you, and at the moment, like many european countries in the last century, most countries have a dislike for a great many things about america....
although I am quite insulted by that last remark, I've never made a personal attack like that against you, my statements are very general
am i drunk lol....I'm very ill actually, I've not drunk for years...never heard of the worlds largest dam near the amazon then?
and America has been very "fortunate" in the hand fate has delt it, dont make this into a bleedin personal row again ITN, we live in a world were not everyone is gonna like you, and at the moment, like many european countries in the last century, most countries have a dislike for a great many things about america....
although I am quite insulted by that last remark, I've never made a personal attack like that against you, my statements are very general
Sure I know not everybody is going to "like" us, we've gotten used to it. Besides, that's not our problem, if people like yourself can only see America's flaws, then I have nothing to add. Funny you get bent all out of shape when I post something "positive" about the US, but pay no attention to the rest of the posts around here, that 98% are negative I might add.
I still have no idea what you were trying to say about the South American dam and Virginia.
I still have no idea what you were trying to say about the South American dam and Virginia.
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you havent seen the new "method" of extracting coal from the woods of virginia then?, you should check it, it's shocking.
my point about the dam though, was that if a single dam can pretty much power 2 small countries (I'm not sure where it is, but it's the world's lrgest) why does the US need so many to keep itself going?
you havent seen the new "method" of extracting coal from the woods of virginia then?, you should check it, it's shocking.
my point about the dam though, was that if a single dam can pretty much power 2 small countries (I'm not sure where it is, but it's the world's lrgest) why does the US need so many to keep itself going?
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The entire point is they DID open a second front in the spring of 1944, fulfilling their promise......Normandy WAS the second front..............
Did you think the second front refered to something else besides the Allied invasion of western Europe?
I'm confused as to what you mean......
dekhqonbacha said:
The entire point is they DID open a second front in the spring of 1944, fulfilling their promise......Normandy WAS the second front..............
Did you think the second front refered to something else besides the Allied invasion of western Europe?
I'm confused as to what you mean......