Hillary Clinton to Announce 2016 Run for President on Sunday

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no, the most despicable people in politics left the whitehouse when george bush left, including him.
the sleeziest, most greasy, lieing, war mongers to ever run the country.
you got that right...and might end up back with old jeb...god help the world

of course right now they are all cutting each others throats so...could well be Hellary that makes it back in
 

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no, the most despicable people in politics left the whitehouse when george bush left, including him.
the sleeziest, most greasy, lieing, war mongers to ever run the country.
Did old Georgie get kicked off the Watergate trial for lying under oath ?
Did Bush stand beside his rapist husband to save her political hide ?
Did old George ever disrespect soldiers ?

Did old Georgie get kicked off the Watergate trial for lying under oath ?
Did Bush stand beside his rapist husband to save her political hide ?
Did old George ever disrespect soldiers ?
And of course Eric Holder and the rest of Obahma's appointies are all salt of the earth .

Did old Georgie get kicked off the Watergate trial for lying under oath ?
Did Bush stand beside his rapist husband to save her political hide ?
Did old George ever disrespect soldiers ?


And of course Eric Holder and the rest of Obahma's appointies are all salt of the earth .
And of course 7 to 4 your guy got the peace prize for continuing the fighting , but crickets .
 

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Did old Georgie get kicked off the Watergate trial for lying under oath ?
Did Bush stand beside his rapist husband to save her political hide ?
Did old George ever disrespect soldiers ?

Yeah, the hatred and acrimony toward Dubya is way too far over done. People can't seem to get it through their heads that because W.M.D.s weren't found DOESN'T mean there weren't any. One thing about George, you won't find anyone else more loyal to Americans.
 

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I agree . Sadly the most despicable person in politics actually has an opportunity to be president . Why ? How can this be true ? Where are we headed ?

Hillary could be elected because the electorate is incredibly ignorant. Where are we headed? Where all democratic and republican forms of govt. ultimately end up. We'll be torn apart by factionalism.

no, the most despicable people in politics left the whitehouse when george bush left, including him.
the sleeziest, most greasy, lieing, war mongers to ever run the country.

Bush was. Hillary is.
 

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I agree . Sadly the most despicable person in politics actually has an opportunity to be president . Why ? How can this be true ? Where are we headed ?

We've been there for quite a while. If you keep going back through the presidents, you'll find one despicable person after another. You might skip a few. Some of them might have been decent people if not bad presidents. But don't get nostalgic about past politicians. Not much has changed in terms of the kinds of people who seek power.
 

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George Bush ruled... he took the fight to the enemy.. but lets do some fact checking..

The irony of President Barack Obama, Nobel Prize winner and putative anti-war candidate, launching extensive airstrikes in Syria, quickly led to comparisons with his predecessor, President George W. Bush.

PunditFact heard two different comparisons in recent days that we thought we were worth exploring.

Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent for the New Yorker summed it up in one tweet.

"Countries bombed: Obama 7, Bush 4."

That’s True.

We asked Lizza for his list and he sent us this:

Bush: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia.

Obama: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria.


As we fact-checked Lizza’s statement, we found little reason to challenge the nations he named. If anything, he shortchanged both presidents.

There is no dispute whatsoever about airstrikes in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. Bush launched wars in the first two countries and drone strikes in Pakistan have been in the news for a long time, with or without official acknowledgment. Airstrikes in those places continued under Obama.

Somalia falls largely in the same category as Pakistan. The New York Times, BBC News and other news organizations reported airstrikes as early as 2007 against people linked to the al-Qaida network.

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a nonprofit news service based at City University London, maintains a running list of U.S. military actions in a number of countries, including Somalia and Yemen. The bureau annotates each incident with links to press reports. By its tally, American drone strikes against suspected terrorists in Somalia occurred under both Bush and Obama.

The same pattern holds in Yemen. BBC News and Time magazine reported a CIA-directed drone attack in Yemen in 2002. This would increase Bush’s total to five countries, rather than the four Lizza cited. Lizza said he left Yemen off of Bush’s list because it was a "one-off strike, rather than a more sustained bombing campaign. Probably deserves an asterisk."

The air attacks on Libya that helped topple Moammar Gadhafi in 2011 under Obama are well documented. In March 2011, the United States and British warships fired over 100 cruise missiles to destroy Libyan air defenses. And, of course, there’s now Syria.

Lizza said that Obama has bombed seven countries to Bush’s four. Depending on your view of Bush’s reported drone strike into Yemen, he may have slightly undercounted Bush’s tally.

But it's hard to fault Lizza for the numbers we use.


Fact-checking the war comparisons between Obama and Bush | Poynter.
what enemy moron , he went into iraq under false pretenses and slaughtered a bunch of innocents, same with afghanistan. meanwhile the 9/11 perpetrators were all saudi.
 

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what enemy moron , he went into iraq under false pretenses and slaughtered a bunch of innocents, same with afghanistan. meanwhile the 9/11 perpetrators were all saudi.

By your reply you didn't get past the first sentence.. :lol:

Your hatred for President Bush is visceral.

"Countries bombed: Obama 7, Bush 4."

That’s True.

We asked Lizza for his list and he sent us this:

Bush: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia.

Obama: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria.
 

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it's just comparing the number of countries bombed which is irrelevant to your comment i'm replying to about bush taking it to his enemies
 

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it's just comparing the number of countries bombed which is irrelevant to your comment i'm replying to about bush taking it to his enemies

...and he did, Iraq and Afghanistan had supporters who provided financial aid to terrorists and shelter. They should have taken out Iran too.

Here is a great book you should read: Terrorism Financing and State Response
 

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he should have invaded saudi arabia if he really wanted to take it to the enemy , you know the country that harbors the anti american ideology of wahhabism ?

dat oil though :lol: :lol:
 

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he should have invaded saudi arabia if he really wanted to take it to the enemy , you know the country that harbors the anti american ideology of wahhabism ?

dat oil though :lol: :lol:

 

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no, the most despicable people in politics left the whitehouse when george bush left, including him.
the sleeziest, most greasy, lieing, war mongers to ever run the country.

WHOA!

Where have you been the last 6+ years!