Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

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The 1st would be the First Nations would it not?

which First Nations? You do realize that First Nations encompasses a lot more than just one nation? Do you not? Are you talking about just the Mohawk Confederation? If so, then why not include all the Salish Nations (to which my wife's family belongs), or the Blackfoot Nations? How about the Anishinaabe, which Bear's wife and my maternal side come from?
 

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They know where the gravy train is.
Partially true, but it's more a matter of fact that they know who is more likely to stick to treaties (Even relatively speaking), and they also know who will uphold a better standard of human rights laws.

Quebec has a long history of violating the rights of First Nations.

Like I said, you don't even know about the present, let alone Canadian history.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 

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Fair enough. I lived in Ottawa for a long time, it's hard sometimes to remember more than just the attitude because it was all around at the time. The difficult part can be listening to "We don't like it here, we don't like you, we want to go." After a while you just want to say "well fuk, then go". You know?

I really don't want to see the nation torn apart though.


Yup, that's my attitude also. You don't like Canada, then fu ck off. Oh? You want to take Quebec with you? Nope, that's part of Canada, you however, can pack up and leave any time.
 

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which First Nations? You do realize that First Nations encompasses a lot more than just one nation? Do you not? Are you talking about just the Mohawk Confederation? If so, then why not include all the Salish Nations (to which my wife's family belongs), or the Blackfoot Nations? How about the Anishinaabe, which Bear's wife and my maternal side come from?

Yep - Dis cracker du know dat.
 

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which First Nations? You do realize that First Nations encompasses a lot more than just one nation? Do you not? Are you talking about just the Mohawk Confederation? If so, then why not include all the Salish Nations (to which my wife's family belongs), or the Blackfoot Nations? How about the Anishinaabe, which Bear's wife and my maternal side come from?
In his defense Gh, I've heard many people refer to the First Nations as one entity, believing the Assembly thereof was a collective voice.
 

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Then answer the question. Which "3" founding nations were you referring to?
I have mentioned 2 - Guess on the 3rd. Go ahead take a walk on the wild side and guess.

In his defense Gh, I've heard many people refer to the First Nations as one entity, believing the Assembly thereof was a collective voice.

I do realize there are a substantial number of First Nations, and each is different in many ways, similar in others Could I name them all - nope- Could Gerry - Possibly.

G is looking for a pissing contest.
 

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which First Nations? You do realize that First Nations encompasses a lot more than just one nation? Do you not? Are you talking about just the Mohawk Confederation? If so, then why not include all the Salish Nations (to which my wife's family belongs), or the Blackfoot Nations? How about the Anishinaabe, which Bear's wife and my maternal side come from?

Bear's wife is your mother? I knew there was inbreeding in the tribes but really....
 

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Bear's wife is your mother? I knew there was inbreeding in the tribes but really....
Geezus, you can't even insult someone without embarrassing yourself.

Lets just say for a second my wife was Gh's mother, that doesn't mean there's any inbreeding.

Maybe you should turn off the comp and go lay down for a while, you seem to have hit bottom.
 

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I think ignorance is to strong a word in this case.


Really? where do you think nicky get's his "non information" from? From idiots that should know better but are too lazy to post the full truth. That's how you get ignorant, stupid comments like "3 founding nations".

and if we really want to get technical, Canada was not "founded" by any of the First Nations. At the time that Canada was formed, none of the First Nations peoples had given up their autonomy and thus were independent. At the time that the Dominion of Canada was formed, it was a British colony and ONLY a British colony as the French had already been defeated and ceded their territory of Lower Canada to the British. Both Lower Canada(Quebec) and Upper Canada were "owned" by the Brits when Canada was "born". It's called revisionist history to try and keep the quebecois happy and the First Nations happy and feeling included.
 

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Really? where do you think nicky get's his "non information" from?
Given the shyte he fills post after post with, his ****.

From idiots that should know better but are too lazy to post the full truth. That's how you get ignorant, stupid comments like "3 founding nations".
It's all in the context and intent. Goober made an error, ya, lazy, but he isn't malicious or stupid like PNhead.

and if we really want to get technical, Canada was not "founded" by any of the First Nations. At the time that Canada was formed, none of the First Nations peoples had given up their autonomy and thus were independent. At the time that the Dominion of Canada was formed, it was a British colony and ONLY a British colony as the French had already been defeated and ceded their territory of Lower Canada to the British. Both Lower Canada(Quebec) and Upper Canada were "owned" by the Brits when Canada was "born". It's called revisionist history to try and keep the quebecois happy and the First Nations happy and feeling included.
I concur for the most part.
 

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Really? where do you think nicky get's his "non information" from? From idiots that should know better but are too lazy to post the full truth. That's how you get ignorant, stupid comments like "3 founding nations".

and if we really want to get technical, Canada was not "founded" by any of the First Nations. At the time that Canada was formed, none of the First Nations peoples had given up their autonomy and thus were independent. At the time that the Dominion of Canada was formed, it was a British colony and ONLY a British colony as the French had already been defeated and ceded their territory of Lower Canada to the British. Both Lower Canada(Quebec) and Upper Canada were "owned" by the Brits when Canada was "born". It's called revisionist history to try and keep the quebecois happy and the First Nations happy and feeling included.
Such a lovely way of imparting knowledge. You would make a great teacher.
Oh yes G- i have used that same statement on other threas and nada from you. Today - Oh my the sky is falling.
Have a bad day and need to shxt at someone?
 

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Such a lovely way of imparting knowledge. You would make a great teacher.


I'm not here to "teach" anyone. If you haven't "learned" basic history by now, it would be a lost cause to try and "teach" you now.
 

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The Parti and Bloc Quebecois want to separate and always have. Quebec has shown in two referendums and countless polls that the province itself does not want to separate.
 

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Really? where do you think nicky get's his "non information" from? From idiots that should know better but are too lazy to post the full truth. That's how you get ignorant, stupid comments like "3 founding nations".

and if we really want to get technical, Canada was not "founded" by any of the First Nations. At the time that Canada was formed, none of the First Nations peoples had given up their autonomy and thus were independent. At the time that the Dominion of Canada was formed, it was a British colony and ONLY a British colony as the French had already been defeated and ceded their territory of Lower Canada to the British. Both Lower Canada(Quebec) and Upper Canada were "owned" by the Brits when Canada was "born". It's called revisionist history to try and keep the quebecois happy and the First Nations happy and feeling included.

Yadda, yadda, blah, blah. The 'first nations' were originally immigrants from eastern asia who in turn were immigrants from africa. What does it f*cking matter who was what 400 or 4000 years ago. None of it is productive to Canada today. When are you dumb f*cks gonna realize that and learn to make your own way looking to the future not fighting battles from the distant past.
 

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Yadda, yadda, blah, blah. The 'first nations' were originally immigrants from eastern asia who in turn were immigrants from africa. What does it f*cking matter who was what 400 or 4000 years ago. None of it is productive to Canada today. When are you dumb f*cks gonna realize that and learn to make your own way looking to the future not fighting battles from the distant past.
What are you babbling about now?
 

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I'm not here to "teach" anyone. If you haven't "learned" basic history by now, it would be a lost cause to try and "teach" you now.

Such a lovely way of imparting knowledge. You would make a great teacher.
Oh yes G- i have used that same statement on other threas and nada from you. Today - Oh my the sky is falling.
Have a bad day and need to shxt at someone?