Hati relief envisaged 1 day before quake

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This is what happened to the sub that got too close in '05
 

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War is even easier to predict than hurricanes, and far more often predicted successfully. I think we got us some high tech uptonogoodery happnin.

Oh brilliant suggestions, nuking fault lines, like playing air hockey with the Earths mantel. What kind of foil heads do you have living up there?
 

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Oh brilliant suggestions, nuking fault lines, like playing air hockey with the Earths mantel. What kind of foil heads do you have living up there?

The worst kind ironsides, the very worst kind that can be imagined. Nuking fault lines I understand has been discussed in academic circles for a long time. I don't know anything aboot it nor have I read much more than what's in this thread, I don't even know how it would or could work and I have never built a huge nukular thingy in my wood shed, so you don't have to look, it's not there, and there isn't a five pound box of chocos beside it.:smile:
 

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Is that the suspected sub?
You decide, the official story is that it was traveling at high speed in an area that just suffered a 9.0 quake without using any type of sonar. The Captain was promoted (if the official story is fake).
Here is a map of Haiti's mineral resources, I'm trying to find a land ownership map but apparently all records are missing.
If Calgary can sell cow manure as "Genuine Calgary Stamped Bullchips" the Haiti should be able to sell little pieces of rubble for $5 a pop. Ketchup stained ones are twice that amount.

This graph should be compared to other quakes of similar nature and to 911 data and to data like an mining blast and throw in 911 just for the heck of it.

 
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I saw a mineral map of Hati yesterday, there seems to be a lot of valuable stuff including oil. I was thinking of the poverty these people have been kept in being especially cruel in light of those mineral riches.
 

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The worst kind ironsides, the very worst kind that can be imagined. Nuking fault lines I understand has been discussed in academic circles for a long time. I don't know anything aboot it nor have I read much more than what's in this thread, I don't even know how it would or could work and I have never built a huge nukular thingy in my wood shed, so you don't have to look, it's not there, and there isn't a five pound box of chocos beside it.:smile:
Somebody once proposed nuking the Colorado shale deposit so large areas could be fractured at once. The radiation thing didn't seem to be an issue (for him personally).
Why couldn't every city have it's own power station, say about the size of a sub power-plant. They would take 100 years to produce enough material to make a bomb. Once the mini-reactor is paid for the residents should have power bill that never get above $10/mo.
 

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Somebody once proposed nuking the Colorado shale deposit so large areas could be fractured at once. The radiation thing didn't seem to be an issue (for him personally).
Why couldn't every city have it's own power station, say about the size of a sub power-plant. They would take 100 years to produce enough material to make a bomb. Once the mini-reactor is paid for the residents should have power bill that never get above $10/mo.

They proposed doing the same thing in Alberta's oilsands a very long time ago,thankfully it didnt get approval.
 

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Somebody once proposed nuking the Colorado shale deposit so large areas could be fractured at once. The radiation thing didn't seem to be an issue (for him personally).
Why couldn't every city have it's own power station, say about the size of a sub power-plant. They would take 100 years to produce enough material to make a bomb. Once the mini-reactor is paid for the residents should have power bill that never get above $10/mo.

As much as we've heard about capitalist efficiencies, we are always asking ourselves the same question because we fail to understand what efficiency means to a banker. Cheap power available to all is in our economic system culturally impossible. The same laws hold for medicine education and food.
 

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I saw a mineral map of Hati yesterday, there seems to be a lot of valuable stuff including oil. I was thinking of the poverty these people have been kept in being especially cruel in light of those mineral riches.
I'm not sure why you would use the word especially? If Haiti just finished paying off France (1947) for a dept that was imposed via French Bankers and the Government of France when they revolted 200 years ago (for the loss of property, slaves) then they were all very valuable slaves or the 'illegal dept' came with very high interest rates. None of Frances friend were complaining what they did, if done to a Nation that could fight back there would have been war. US vs Britain is an example.
The oil wouldn't be developed at this time, there are enough wells in the world. It will be even more valuable down the road, say when their good friends from Venezuela start running dry. That means the land on the surface will have to sustain them, A little food and a quart of rum/ day for the unemployed. The ones needed for the little bit of work that needs to be done would get extra.
 

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As much as we've heard about capitalist efficiencies, we are always asking ourselves the same question because we fail to understand what efficiency means to a banker. Cheap power available to all is in our economic system culturally impossible. The same laws hold for medicine education and food.
The sad fact is the Bankers already think they have the world running as smoothly as it can ever get (other than that 75% population reduction they keep drooling over).
Consumer goods have an intentionally built-in life-span, if it is broken at that basic level no patches will ever heal the inefficenties
 

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No kidding, get that material smoldering and it would only go out when it was all ash. lol

I dont think it would even get smouldering with the lack of oxygen,coal seams will burn for thousands of years though,theres a few around my place and their impossible to put out.
 

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Dry peat-moss will do that also, drain a pit and if it started on fire it would all go up in smoke.
Isn't it odd that there were no waves created?
 

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Dry peat-moss will do that also, drain a pit and if it started on fire it would all go up in smoke.
Isn't it odd that there were no waves created?

we had to turn any stockpiled coal after a week or it would spontaneously combust,same type of thing as a compost pile. It's oxidizing in the air and is why any outcrop in the mountain is pure white as it slowly burns and turns to ash,its also why outcrop coal is taken as the cheaper thermal product,the good met coal lies farther into the seam where theres less oxygen.
 

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So why couldn't a coal burning power plant use tarsand material as a substitute or at least blended with coal at a certain ratio?
 

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So why couldn't a coal burning power plant use tarsand material as a substitute or at least blended with coal at a certain ratio?

Because the build them close to the deposits and it's cheaper.
Exshaw uses B.C. coal now to from when the price of fuel got real high,coal is cheap and very abundant as it's pretty well all over the place.
Coal also burns very hot and very slowly,even a coal burner in some guys shack would be more efficient and put out way more heat then a diesel burner would.
Dont try it in your woodstove,it will melt the steel.
 

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I saw a mineral map of Hati yesterday, there seems to be a lot of valuable stuff including oil. I was thinking of the poverty these people have been kept in being especially cruel in light of those mineral riches.

There are now at least three Canadian companies prospecting for gold and copper in Northeast Haiti and two of these companies have really expanded their operations within this past year. Why the rush to start mining in Haiti right now or to start prospecting in Haiti , right now.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/Haiti-s-Riches-Interview-by-Ezili-Dant-090512-591.html
 

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While making horse-shoes a coal-fire needs to be force-fed large amounts of air in order to get the iron red hot. Not sure how you build your stoves but fire-brick and elevating the coal off the floor would take care of any melting problems.