Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage

[tibear]

peapod,

Your avoiding the question. You claim that same-sex relationships involves two consenting adults. Could you then please explain the difference between a same-sex relationship and two 25 year-old twins who want to have their relationship recognized.

Similarly, if 5 adults(2 men and 3 women) all want to get married, how is this different from a same-sex relationship.

Please limit your arguement to a human rights standpoint because that is the issue that I have problem with. The same-sex proponents claim that this is a human rights debate and not a moral debate, so from their perspective morality is not an issue when it comes to recognizing various sexual relationships.

 

[peapod]

Please limit your arguement to a human rights standpoint because that is the issue that I have problem with. The same-sex proponents claim that this is a human rights debate and not a moral debate, so from their perspective morality is not an issue with it comes to recognizing various sexual relationships

I cannot answer your question, my point of view comes from my morality. And my morality says here comes the bride. :wink:

 

[peapod]

Please limit your arguement to a human rights standpoint because that is the issue that I have problem with. The same-sex proponents claim that this is a human rights debate and not a moral debate, so from their perspective morality is not an issue with it comes to recognizing various sexual relationships

I cannot answer your question, my point of view comes from my morality. And my morality says here comes the bride. :wink:

 

[peapod]

Please limit your arguement to a human rights standpoint because that is the issue that I have problem with. The same-sex proponents claim that this is a human rights debate and not a moral debate, so from their perspective morality is not an issue with it comes to recognizing various sexual relationships

I cannot answer your question, my point of view comes from my morality. And my morality says here comes the bride. :wink:

 

[tibear]

OK, I'll try to simplify it.

The same-sex proponents(Mr Martin included) have claimed that this is strictly a human rights issue and not a moral question.

Having said that, from a human rights standpoint, what right does the government have to tell a set of 25 year twins that they cannot marry each other. We can't point our fingers at them and say "That's sick." According to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, just like homosexuals have the right to choose their partners that differ from the current laws, what would prevent these twins from gaining recognition??

Moving a step further, the polygamists also want the right to choose their partners, just like the same-sex people and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that they have that right.

Where is the hole in this logic??

 

[tibear]

OK, I'll try to simplify it.

The same-sex proponents(Mr Martin included) have claimed that this is strictly a human rights issue and not a moral question.

Having said that, from a human rights standpoint, what right does the government have to tell a set of 25 year twins that they cannot marry each other. We can't point our fingers at them and say "That's sick." According to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, just like homosexuals have the right to choose their partners that differ from the current laws, what would prevent these twins from gaining recognition??

Moving a step further, the polygamists also want the right to choose their partners, just like the same-sex people and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that they have that right.

Where is the hole in this logic??

 

[tibear]

OK, I'll try to simplify it.

The same-sex proponents(Mr Martin included) have claimed that this is strictly a human rights issue and not a moral question.

Having said that, from a human rights standpoint, what right does the government have to tell a set of 25 year twins that they cannot marry each other. We can't point our fingers at them and say "That's sick." According to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, just like homosexuals have the right to choose their partners that differ from the current laws, what would prevent these twins from gaining recognition??

Moving a step further, the polygamists also want the right to choose their partners, just like the same-sex people and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that they have that right.

Where is the hole in this logic??

 

[Andem]

Similarly, if 5 adults(2 men and 3 women) all want to get married, how is this different from a same-sex relationship.

One word: Polygamy.
I don't need to bother arguing with someone who is going to paint a completely different picture. Next arguement is going to be, let me guess, beastiality? Get a life.

 

[Andem]

Similarly, if 5 adults(2 men and 3 women) all want to get married, how is this different from a same-sex relationship.

One word: Polygamy.
I don't need to bother arguing with someone who is going to paint a completely different picture. Next arguement is going to be, let me guess, beastiality? Get a life.

 

[Andem]

Similarly, if 5 adults(2 men and 3 women) all want to get married, how is this different from a same-sex relationship.

One word: Polygamy.
I don't need to bother arguing with someone who is going to paint a completely different picture. Next arguement is going to be, let me guess, beastiality? Get a life.

 

[peapod]

The old slippery slope. I live in BC the place is covered with slippery slopes.

Still cannot answer your question, except to say, let each issue be put to the canadian people to decide on. The will of the majority.
I don't have a problem with gay marriage or their relationships, but I do have a problem with polygamy and incest.

 

[peapod]

The old slippery slope. I live in BC the place is covered with slippery slopes.

Still cannot answer your question, except to say, let each issue be put to the canadian people to decide on. The will of the majority.
I don't have a problem with gay marriage or their relationships, but I do have a problem with polygamy and incest.

 

[peapod]

The old slippery slope. I live in BC the place is covered with slippery slopes.

Still cannot answer your question, except to say, let each issue be put to the canadian people to decide on. The will of the majority.
I don't have a problem with gay marriage or their relationships, but I do have a problem with polygamy and incest.

 

[no1important]

They are two different things entirely. Harper just brought it up(Polygamy) as a "last stand" and hopes of confusing and scaring people. Its all politics.

Harper knows he will never be PM or get same sex marriage banned.

It is rubbish that he tried to equate the two.

 

[no1important]

They are two different things entirely. Harper just brought it up(Polygamy) as a "last stand" and hopes of confusing and scaring people. Its all politics.

Harper knows he will never be PM or get same sex marriage banned.

It is rubbish that he tried to equate the two.

 

[no1important]

They are two different things entirely. Harper just brought it up(Polygamy) as a "last stand" and hopes of confusing and scaring people. Its all politics.

Harper knows he will never be PM or get same sex marriage banned.

It is rubbish that he tried to equate the two.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Harper says he'll pro

I thought I posted about this on here somewhere. Oh well.

Same sex marriage has nothing to do with polygamy. One has no control over their sexual orientation, but one does have choice when it comes to lifestyle. Polygamy is a lifestyle.

That being said, I have no problem with consensual polygamy or any form of incest that does not result in children. Just to keep tibear, and possibly Jay, entertained, I'll start a new thread on it.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Harper says he'll pro

I thought I posted about this on here somewhere. Oh well.

Same sex marriage has nothing to do with polygamy. One has no control over their sexual orientation, but one does have choice when it comes to lifestyle. Polygamy is a lifestyle.

That being said, I have no problem with consensual polygamy or any form of incest that does not result in children. Just to keep tibear, and possibly Jay, entertained, I'll start a new thread on it.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Harper says he'll pro

I thought I posted about this on here somewhere. Oh well.

Same sex marriage has nothing to do with polygamy. One has no control over their sexual orientation, but one does have choice when it comes to lifestyle. Polygamy is a lifestyle.

That being said, I have no problem with consensual polygamy or any form of incest that does not result in children. Just to keep tibear, and possibly Jay, entertained, I'll start a new thread on it.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Harper says he'll pro

to keep tibear, and possibly Jay, entertained, I'll start a new thread on it.

I'm touched to think you’re concerned whether or not I'm entertained. I'll look for the new thread.