Harper announces $1B in farm aid

Stretch

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7 or 8 yrs ago I saw this....
today "they" are saying that we are running out of water.....that we must pay more for what we use, yes?
but if ya flip channels, you'll find that global warming is happening and that the polar caps are melting...from that, one would assume that water was gunna be "free to a good home"....very soon
 

snfu73

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7 or 8 yrs ago I saw this....
today "they" are saying that we are running out of water.....that we must pay more for what we use, yes?
but if ya flip channels, you'll find that global warming is happening and that the polar caps are melting...from that, one would assume that water was gunna be "free to a good home"....very soon
Who are "they" again???

Aren't the polar caps melting into salt water...and haven't we polluted almost every fresh water lake in existance so that if water flows into them, it's contaminated?
 

Stretch

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just a heads up, the next wars will be for water, not oil.......
and if ya real powerfull, like the un, you'll stake ya claim straight up...claiming the only source of fresh water...as theirs, without any consultation
 

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but if ya flip channels, you'll find that global warming is happening and that the polar caps are melting...from that, one would assume that water was gunna be "free to a good home"....very soon

Not quite the way it works. Polar ice caps melting means the water floating as ice will just be liquid instead and land based ice melts and runs into the oceans.

You can think of Glaciers as a resevoir. Regular melt-off in the spring brings water down to make it available to those in need, like the Tar sands projects relying on the Athabasca, irrigation for agriculture, etc. With the glaciers receding, that means there is less water available. When the glaciers are gone, that freshwater will be down stream from those who rely on it, far away.
 

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Its called the Water Cycle. All the water has ever been is never created or destroyed.

Its expensive but you can filter ocean water...
 

Tonington

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Indeed you can, or you can capture it from the air, also expensive. By the by, you can destroy water in a manner of speaking. Pass an electic current through it and you get hydrogen as the hydrogen bonds break.

The point is it's expensive to move water around. Most areas where humans settle are close to reliable sources of water, at least what used to be reliable sources of water.
 

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Well that certainly seems counter-intuitive, do you have any stats on that?
 

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Towns and cities struggle with water costs

/ The St. Catharines Standard
Editorial - Saturday, March 03, 2007 @ 11:00

Water protection has been a relatively easy road to follow for the province.

The government passes directives, boosts bureaucracy, inflates costs and then sits back to watch municipalities and homeowners struggle in the new water world order.

The province's Bill 43, the Clean Water Act, set strict standards for the protection of water sources that supply municipal water systems. But while the province sets the rules, municipalities are left to shoulder the costs for implementing, regulating and policing water source protection.

Municipalities will also endure costs to amend official plans and zoning bylaws to meet the requirements of the new provincial law.
http://www.thesudburystar.com/webap...sp?contentid=429523&catname=Editorial&classif=
 

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The Government Says They Own The Seas
Recently, we learned that the United States Senate was considering giving up American sovereignty over the oceans to the United Nations. As incredible as it sounds, under something called The Law of the Sea Treaty (with the very appropriate acronym of LOST), the world governing body known as the United Nations is to be given authority over the oceans of the world.
Many Republicans and Democrats have urged ratification of the international treaty, which will give the UN dominion over 70 percent of the earth’s surface – to say nothing of the natural resources involved. This is not a joke, for the original LOST treaty was actually signed while Bill Clinton was in office, but the Senate failed to ratify the treaty.
The oil industry is very interested in seeing this treaty enacted because it benefits the huge multi-national energy corporations that back the present Republican dominated government. Furthermore, as the present occupants of the White House all come from the oil industry, it should have surprised no one that former oil industry executive (and George Bush’s Secretary of State) Condoleezza Rice has urged the LOST treaty be approved. This will give the United Nations the power to tax the seas.
The Government Says They Own The Rain
Here in the Northwest where Christian Media is located, we frequently get a lot of rainfall; thus we weren’t surprised to hear the residents of Washington are now being confronted by a Senate bill requiring anyone collecting rainwater on their property to get a permit from the government!
As laughable as this sounds, this absurd situation should not be taken lightly, for regional and local governments already require permits for just about everything else, including fences, pets, vehicles, trash disposal, and much much more. If this crazy effort to claim they have the authority to tax the rain is ever approved, the government would then need to have `rainwater police’ to be sure their statutes are being enforced.
Here in Oregon, we already have equally oppressive laws in force as it’s even illegal to cut a dead tree for firewood just to keep warm without government permission – and of course there is a fee involved. However, the corrupt and greedy leaders of government that play-god here in Oregon has gone even further.
They’re now proposing a new tax they call a mileage fee. In addition to the gas tax and the multitude of vehicle taxes, they want to charge people for every mile they travel. Using wireless radio technology (with a another licensing fee paid for using the air, of course) the Road User Fee Task Force (RUFTF) is attempting to pass legislation charging people a per mile fee for traveling in Oregon. It’s unclear whether or not the fee will also apply to joggers, bicyclists, or those that walk for exercise.
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/cmc-81.html