Happy Hookers!
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I'm divided.
As a libertarian of sorts, I see little reason for the state to be involved in what amounts to a private matter between adults.
That said, prostitution is a nasty business.....often engaged in by the very young or the coerced.
And the courts are once again over-stepping themselves........I mean, should bank robbery be legal because its illegality puts bank robbers at risk?
If you don't want to be at risk, don't sell your ass to strangers.
This decision to knock down the laws of prostitution only applies to those over 18. The law remains unchanged with regards to those under 18.
To me the law never made sense. Prostitution is not illegal but profiting from it is! Is the services of a sex worker supposed to be a freebie? As long as their are clients there will be prostitution.
To me the law never made sense. Prostitution is not illegal but profiting from it is! Is the services of a sex worker supposed to be a freebie? As long as their are clients there will be prostitution.
Prostitution may soon be legal in Canada.
Well, it's about time! An Ontario court has ruled that our current prostitution laws are unconstitutional.
Sex-trade stunner: Court strikes down law - Yahoo! Canada News
I for one think it's about time, not only to improve the safety of the profession, but to start making some much needed money off of it.
Well, it's about time! An Ontario court has ruled that our current prostitution laws are unconstitutional.
Sex-trade stunner: Court strikes down law - Yahoo! Canada News
I for one think it's about time, not only to improve the safety of the profession, but to start making some much needed money off of it.
The big issue in my opinion is that you ought to be able to call the police and tell them if you suspect someone you know is being exploited. By criminalizing prostitution (or so much surrounding it), they ensured that women being victimized would never be rescued, because in order to get them help, you first have to admit that they are criminals.
By removing the criminal aspect, now moms friends, etc., can call without risking a woman's freedom.
Ironically, some prositutes are against the further legalization of the sex trade. Why? Economics.
Right now the girls in Canada can charge $120 for 20 minutes of screwing. Compare Canada with another industrialized country, for instance, such as Amsterdam.
In Amsterdam, if you are out before noon, you can find a clean (regularly tested) prositute who will have sex for 30 Euros ($41 Canadian) and won't watch the time. Although during rush hour the rate is typically 50 Euros ($71 Canadian) and lasts about 20 minutes.
In Canada, you are essentially paying 2-3 times as much and since there is no regulated testing (even the escort agencies here are questionable) you are probably going to get a "souvenior or two" (see disease) from the hooker.
Right now the girls in Canada can charge $120 for 20 minutes of screwing. Compare Canada with another industrialized country, for instance, such as Amsterdam.
In Amsterdam, if you are out before noon, you can find a clean (regularly tested) prositute who will have sex for 30 Euros ($41 Canadian) and won't watch the time. Although during rush hour the rate is typically 50 Euros ($71 Canadian) and lasts about 20 minutes.
In Canada, you are essentially paying 2-3 times as much and since there is no regulated testing (even the escort agencies here are questionable) you are probably going to get a "souvenior or two" (see disease) from the hooker.
How many Amsterdam hookers get invited out to pig farms? They're on the grid so they matter. They don't have to rely on "security" people, so their cut will be better. Canadian gals will likely charge the same. Who's going to fly off to Amsterdam to save fifty bucks and the Penny shots?
Give me a break this is 2010, and the world is a different place than in the sixties. I think the law should get out of the
business of fighting the pot wars and prostitution, and regulating the social ills of the country. The fact remains, that
prostitution, pot, and smoking, will continue for generations to come and no amount of money or police pressure will
stop it. Perhaps if we legalize the activity, it will go indoors or be less prominent.
It is time for society to grow up.
business of fighting the pot wars and prostitution, and regulating the social ills of the country. The fact remains, that
prostitution, pot, and smoking, will continue for generations to come and no amount of money or police pressure will
stop it. Perhaps if we legalize the activity, it will go indoors or be less prominent.
It is time for society to grow up.
I found this quote from the story revealing:
Moreover, sex workers can set up guilds and associations, health standards, workers' compensation programs, as well as pay income tax. "We want to be good citizens and it's time, now we finally can," said Scott.
The question is whether or not sex workers will actually set up such guilds and associations or whether the sex trade will continue as usual with pimps and organized crime setting the standards. It appears to me it is the government that will have to provide the apparatus to ensure that the sex trade is properly regulated in much the same way that government has had to intervene in other nations where the sex trade has been legalized. And as Sparrow pointed out the sex trade will still be illegal for anyone under the age of 18. Sadly this will still remain an area where the police and government will have to get involved.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/28/prostitution-law028.html#ixzz10tcwtABO
Moreover, sex workers can set up guilds and associations, health standards, workers' compensation programs, as well as pay income tax. "We want to be good citizens and it's time, now we finally can," said Scott.
The question is whether or not sex workers will actually set up such guilds and associations or whether the sex trade will continue as usual with pimps and organized crime setting the standards. It appears to me it is the government that will have to provide the apparatus to ensure that the sex trade is properly regulated in much the same way that government has had to intervene in other nations where the sex trade has been legalized. And as Sparrow pointed out the sex trade will still be illegal for anyone under the age of 18. Sadly this will still remain an area where the police and government will have to get involved.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/28/prostitution-law028.html#ixzz10tcwtABO
I can see a couple ways on this but on the whole, I think we should go the way the Dutch did: legalize, regulate and tax it. It gives a little more leverage to keeping the minors out (don't give out licences to practice for under 18 yr old), limits the power pimps/madams have over the girls and keeps them safer and healthier. It won't make all the sex workers safer but it will help many... and I would be surprised if they didn't for some type of union or guild, especially with the organizations and individuals out there who already try and get the girls off the streets and into safer lifestyles.
Prostitution is called the oldest profession for a reason: there have always been some that have and others that will pay for it. Lets admit that and let those that have profit rather than be blackmailed by some "protector".
Prostitution is called the oldest profession for a reason: there have always been some that have and others that will pay for it. Lets admit that and let those that have profit rather than be blackmailed by some "protector".
It would be a great idea until you get wackos claiming that this is part of some left-wing socialist global agenda.
that came out sounding funny in my brain, like you wish cops would just leave well enough alone. Funny how phrases come across sometimes.
Hooker Guilds, lol
I only hope that most cities will create bylaws dictating where the hookers can ply their trade.
I only hope that most cities will create bylaws dictating where the hookers can ply their trade.
what sort of bylaws would be needed? You want to make sure they can't run a bawdy house out of your apartment building/neighbourhood?
Using Toronto as an example; I would not want to see any outdoor prostitution in the downtown core. Reason, it's not something tourists want to see, associated crime, business loss etc etc.
Personally, a single prostitute running her business out of her home is not a problem to me. A bawdy house would probably be a different story though...