Hamas Wins
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Many years ago, probably before Jay was born, 
I pasted an educational post by Dennis Prager. He wisely observed that peace would not come until after Palestine had a civil war. In other words Palestinians themselves have to defeat the terrorists.
So far it looks like the terrorists are winning that war. It may be a battle lost but the war is far from over. It will take decades, not one election.
I pasted an educational post by Dennis Prager. He wisely observed that peace would not come until after Palestine had a civil war. In other words Palestinians themselves have to defeat the terrorists.So far it looks like the terrorists are winning that war. It may be a battle lost but the war is far from over. It will take decades, not one election.
*Emphasis mine.
Re: RE: Hamas Wins
Good lord, way to ruin my weekend. I thought there was no name-calling or personal attacks allowed on this site. Please, how could you call me an American? Sure I'll concede that I am a North American, but that is it.
It is easy to get all misty eyed when one talks only about the virtues and good parts of the USA, but I could write something equally as truthful which could paint the US as the most wretched place on earth.
There are two sides to every coin, can you at least for even a second trying looking at it from the other side.
Jay said:
Good lord, way to ruin my weekend. I thought there was no name-calling or personal attacks allowed on this site. Please, how could you call me an American? Sure I'll concede that I am a North American, but that is it.
It is easy to get all misty eyed when one talks only about the virtues and good parts of the USA, but I could write something equally as truthful which could paint the US as the most wretched place on earth.
There are two sides to every coin, can you at least for even a second trying looking at it from the other side.
Good point.
First the 33% of Americans who can't even get reasonable health care. The poor, as well.
The lack in union, the governments in America are pro-business, so it is easier to fire someone.
Re: RE: Hamas Wins
a lot of ppl tend to forget that before NAFTA the US still traded with us and in most cases they were a tad bit less arrogant than they are right now. They also depend on us for trade not so much but they still do. Canadians are justified in viewing america in in hostility because of the way US acts. It has never really followed international rules, flaunts its might whenever it pleases them and has f*cked many countries, sometimes beyond redemption. They dont deserve any respect whatsoever.
Standing up to the russians? hopefully your not talking about Reganomics cause that actually didnt work, most ppl(intellectuals, economists and regular joes) agree that the russian system collapsed on its own with little to to no effect by the US.
I personally think the states doesnt deserve an ounce of respect and the nation should be charged with a whole list of crimes, many of which they tend to charge others with. They act just like any otehr colonialist nation, blaming those who wish to defend their lands from hegemony as horrible ppl, justifing massacres and destruction of other nations and stealing the wealth of other nations while condemning those nations leaders as currupt or vile.
I have always had contempt for colonialist nations, mostly because they are the very same nations now denouncing current despots for mimicking them.
Jay said:
a lot of ppl tend to forget that before NAFTA the US still traded with us and in most cases they were a tad bit less arrogant than they are right now. They also depend on us for trade not so much but they still do. Canadians are justified in viewing america in in hostility because of the way US acts. It has never really followed international rules, flaunts its might whenever it pleases them and has f*cked many countries, sometimes beyond redemption. They dont deserve any respect whatsoever.
Standing up to the russians? hopefully your not talking about Reganomics cause that actually didnt work, most ppl(intellectuals, economists and regular joes) agree that the russian system collapsed on its own with little to to no effect by the US.
I personally think the states doesnt deserve an ounce of respect and the nation should be charged with a whole list of crimes, many of which they tend to charge others with. They act just like any otehr colonialist nation, blaming those who wish to defend their lands from hegemony as horrible ppl, justifing massacres and destruction of other nations and stealing the wealth of other nations while condemning those nations leaders as currupt or vile.
I have always had contempt for colonialist nations, mostly because they are the very same nations now denouncing current despots for mimicking them.
Agree totally nitzomoe.
There are a few colonial countries still left in the world, but America is the biggest and strongest of them all.
There are a few colonial countries still left in the world, but America is the biggest and strongest of them all.
Hamas — Unacceptable
While the Hamas Government may have been elected by the people, that does not require the Government of Canada to treat said government like they would any other.
If our Government is aware that theirs would be associated with terrorism, then we are under an obligation to at least endeavour to correct their errors. For example, it couldn't hurt to invite (under extremely close supervision and security, of course) members of the Hamas Government to some sort of interparliamentary committee meetings.
In my opinion, it is possible for anyone to be reasoned with — even terrorists.
If we can show them that we are not their enemies (while still protecting the citizens of Canada from their potential threat), then we should exercise every reasonable avenue to that end.
While the Hamas Government may have been elected by the people, that does not require the Government of Canada to treat said government like they would any other.
If our Government is aware that theirs would be associated with terrorism, then we are under an obligation to at least endeavour to correct their errors. For example, it couldn't hurt to invite (under extremely close supervision and security, of course) members of the Hamas Government to some sort of interparliamentary committee meetings.
In my opinion, it is possible for anyone to be reasoned with — even terrorists.
If we can show them that we are not their enemies (while still protecting the citizens of Canada from their potential threat), then we should exercise every reasonable avenue to that end.
Jersay said:
Really Jersay? Care to share some information on all these colonies? Where might they be?
Why certainly,
Georgia, India, Iraq, South America, and others.
You don't need troops to be imperial or colonial.
Just look at what America is trying to impose on India.
Jersay said:
Why certainly,
Georgia, India, Iraq, South America, and others.
You don't need troops to be imperial or colonial.
Just look at what America is trying to impose on India.
You don't need troops to be colonial or imperial? What do you need? Bad manners?
Are you freakin kidding me Jersay? The US is a colonial power? You should know better since you were a colony, and still have ties to that power.
What's is Puerto Rico?
How about Hawaii?
Alaska?
When the time came for them to vote for independence, commonwealth, or becoming a state, how come in the 1950s, when the U.N consider these places colonies of America that independence wasn't offered.
Hawaii and Alaska are states :?
Puerto Rico is a territory, you know, like YOUR Northwest Territories. And they voted on becoming a state and said no (big surprise, they pay no taxes).
Quit playing semantics Jersay, its not washing, go ask the people of Hawaii and Alaska if they consider themselves a colony.
Puerto Rico is a territory, you know, like YOUR Northwest Territories. And they voted on becoming a state and said no (big surprise, they pay no taxes).
Quit playing semantics Jersay, its not washing, go ask the people of Hawaii and Alaska if they consider themselves a colony.
What about the native people of Alaska and Hawaii.
And I would admit the same for the native people of the North West Territories.
look up UNPO,
Unrecognized Nations and Peoples Organization.
And I would admit the same for the native people of the North West Territories.
look up UNPO,
Unrecognized Nations and Peoples Organization.
Canada was considered a "Dominion" of the United Kingdom until only a few decades ago; that's not a far cry from being a colony. I don't see why some seem to consider the term to be so negative! I cannot see any serious problem with acknowledging one's origin or history.
Sometimes colony can be good or bad. In European sense of Canada, colony was good but i wouldn't be so sure with the ethnic minorities and aboriginals in Canada.
I can certainly see your point.
In some ways, Canada's treatment of our First Nations people has been deplorable — and yet in other senses, perhaps equally as admirable. It is an extremely complex issue [relations with First Nations people in Canada].
I would think that we need to acknowledge both our feats, and our faults, and move forward from there, considering the needs of the First Nations people, in conjunction with the prosperity of Canada.
In some ways, Canada's treatment of our First Nations people has been deplorable — and yet in other senses, perhaps equally as admirable. It is an extremely complex issue [relations with First Nations people in Canada].
I would think that we need to acknowledge both our feats, and our faults, and move forward from there, considering the needs of the First Nations people, in conjunction with the prosperity of Canada.