That is NOT the quote "Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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I understand that you think 2 million is a bs stat, so let's cut in half, how about 1 million......isn't that substantially more than the 10 thousand stat that you are quoting?
Layman Pang clearly did not give a shit about who said it first or how it was said when he said what he said. And, he was a Chinese Buddhist.
But it is duly noted that you seem to give a shit. That is your right.
Bluebird, lets consider another analogy
There are 2 million grains of gold, and in it there are 10 thousand grains of lead.
When you waltz into the room, the only thing you see is a big pile of 'lead' that you want to flush down the drain because you want a lead free world.
I want a lead free world too, but I see a pile of gold and quite frankly think you have your head up your arse when you shout "those are BS stats"
There are 2 million grains of gold, and in it there are 10 thousand grains of lead.
When you waltz into the room, the only thing you see is a big pile of 'lead' that you want to flush down the drain because you want a lead free world.
I want a lead free world too, but I see a pile of gold and quite frankly think you have your head up your arse when you shout "those are BS stats"
Injured man charged with 2nd-degree murder after woman found stabbed at Toronto home
2 men dead in early morning shooting at Vaughan banquet hall
2 men dead in early morning shooting at Vaughan banquet hall
OH GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tecumsehbonesforbrains thinks that asking for CRIMINAL CONTROL is a mark of insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And his view marks him as being full of LIE-beral INANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-beral failure to seriously confront criminals emboldens them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals do not understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too much gravy has impeded their thought process!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It becomes ever more clear why cops end up shooting people. As I have said before-too many people become drooling idiots and forget how to behave when confronted by a cop just doing his job! The following report by Joe Warmington of Toronto Sun News illustrates a disturbing social trend. I include some comments of my own in brackets) along with his informative report:
Young armed punks brazen in cop stare down
By Joe Warmington, Toronto Sun. First posted: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 07:06 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 09:54 PM EDT
Neil Corrigan
Toronto - It was an armed standoff in Kensington Market few even knew about.
At one end of an alley in the heart of the Spadina and College-area market there were three young punks, armed and dangerous. At the other end were two Toronto Police officers looking for three fitting the description of armed robbery suspects.
The potential for blood, death, funerals and God knows what else was not only possible, but imminent on June 8.
“This is where the rubber meets the road,” said Supt. Neil Corrigan, unit commander of Toronto Police’s 14 Division.
In almost 30 years as a Toronto cop, Corrigan thought he has pretty much seen it all. But he had never seen what happened next.
“Normally when the police arrive, in my experience, young people just run away,” he said. Not anymore.
Instead the trio starred down police and started hurling insults and challenged the officers. “They had no fear of police and no understanding of the job we are sworn to do,” said Corrigan.
(I personally would suggest the kids simply have no CARE for the job cops do!)
The teens had allegedly just robbed eight people at gunpoint outside a coffee shop at Bellevue and Nassau. “One of the victims was a female who was poked in the ribs by a handgun. Others lost their wallets and cell phones, credit cards and cash. They were all traumatized.”
Meanwhile, the thugs were ”yelling that the police have no power to do anything and there is nothing we could do,” Corrigan said. “They were wrong.”
They just didn’t know it yet.
“One of the youths brushed up against a car in the alley and there was a loud clang. Right away my officers knew the suspect was armed with a heavy-duty gun.”
Calling it “remarkable” policing, his officers swooped in and arrested two of the youths.
Aged 15 and 16, they are in custody and two loaded handguns are off the street. They next day, police arrested the third suspect, 16, but are still looking for his gun.
They will appear at 311 Jarvis St. court Thursday at 9 a.m. The charges include “robbery with firearm, point firearm, use firearm in commission of offence, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a restricted firearm with ammunition, possession of firearm contrary to prohibition order, possession of a weapon obtained by crime” as well as bail and probation condition breaches.
“It’s just pure luck no one was hurt or killed,” said Det.-Sgt. Ian McArthur, of 14 Division Criminal Investigation Bureau.
What about next time?
In a climate of banned carding and soft-on-crime courts, today’s young, armed criminal doesn’t seem to have any fear of carrying loaded guns or using them.
Corrigan says the defiance and notion among armed youth that officers are handcuffed thanks to politics and regulations is alarming because he shudders to think what could have transpired.
This is why he took to Twitter and Facebook.
On Twitter he wrote June 9: “Bad guys believe cops are not allowed to stop or talk to them, is that why so many seem to carry guns now?
Robbery suspects with guns tell my officers, Cops cant stop us or talk to us. They were WRONG. At TPS14Div; at TPSOperations
— Neil Corrigan (at) SuptCorrigan) June 9, 2016
On Facebook: “My officers respond to a robbery call, they located two suspects nearby who tell my officers that the police can’t stop them and can’t talk to them! The suspects are armed with two concealed guns in their pockets yet they believe the police are no longer allowed to stop or talk to them. That is the problem!!”
(I say this is the fault of LIE-berals-those craven vote seeking cowards who never met a citizen they didn’t think they could not both bribe and baffle with their bullshit! LIE-beral `hug a thug` judges with their `catch and release` mentality are allowing thugs to think of themselves as victims of white bigotry. This is an obvious problem when the REAL dual problems are crap attitude on the part of black thugs and a debauched and ruined economy with no real jobs available thanks to LIE-beral taxed to the max attitudes!)
“This is all about community safety,” said Corrigan. “Safety for my officers, safety for everybody.”
But when you have young criminals who have no respect for police, are so brazen, there is an issue that needs to be dealt with.
“That’s why I wrote what I wrote,” said Corrigan.
It’s more preferable than writing a letter to the widow of another slain police officer or parent of a dead kid shot by police. Corrigan almost had to write a bunch of them last week.
jwarmington at postmedia
WHAT IS CARDING?
”Carding” or “street checks” occur when police officers stop a person in a capacity that does not involve arrest and leads to that person providing the officer with personal information. Police record the information and keep it on file for intelligence purposes.
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
Members of a number of Toronto’s minority communities have contended for years that they are disproportionately targeted by police officers during street checks. They say that the practice is racially motivated, has undermined trust in officers, and violates privacy and charter rights.
(I say it is understandable that black parents would not wish to see their kids end up in jail but the ugly fact is that black kids are committing all manner of crimes and crap excuses by their parents an pals won’t/shouldn’t keep thugs from punishment.
In March, the Ontario government brought in new rules for police engagement with the public. The rules spell out how police can approach individuals who are not a witness or suspect in a crime. They also prohibit the practice of carding.
(I say the new rules of engagement are a CRAVEN LIE-beral sop to the most irresponsible and outright stupid members of the community-nothing but LIE-beral vote buying at the expense of public safety! Further, there are valid reasons why young offenders ought not to be sent to jail-not least because they end up picking up contacts and ideas for future crimes from older thugs. And of course they often end up victimized in various ways by older convicts.)
(But the LIE-beral approved slap on the wrist is clearly not suitable for armed and dangerous morons! Corporal punishment-caning is clearly the answer for these young, strong, arrogant thugs-so convinced we can do nothing against them!)
(LIE-beral whiners call caning or other corporal punishment barbaric but what other HONEST option is there? Is it fair to ignore the crap attitude of these dorks until such time as they commit a crime serious enough that they be labeled as dangerous offenders and get locked away for decades? If a dog bites, we recognize the danger and deal with it-why NOT so with armed goon kids? If LIE-berals are so concerned for these morons, then WHY are they not willing to take dramatic steps to try to save them from their own ignorance and confusion before the damage is PERMANENT?)
( The basic laws of peace and order of our society are under attack by gun toting morons-and it stands to reason that a series of serious cracks on the ass with a cane-as is done in India and such places offers a quick, cheap and very effective means of reminding our thugs that we are displeased with their behaviour!)
(Certainly caning offers a real alternative to sending young thugs to `Holiday Innis`-the youth facility in Innisfil that is simply a holding ground for morons whom LIE-beral judges have not got around to releasing-or not yet sent back home to `house arrest`-with hopeless and ineffectual Mommy acting as jailer to the still defiant goon!)
Toronto’s police association has defended carding, saying it is a legitimate investigative tool that brings down crime rates.
(Strange to say Toronto Red Star AGREES with cops in this. Toronto Red Star did an article last year about how quiet its gotten in youth court since `carding` was curtailed!)
(But of course real action by LIE-berals to bring back `carding` or to impose real punishment on seriously defiant thugs would expose the dangerous holes in LIE-beral philosophy! Even worse, re-introducing carding and using corporal punishment might result in LIE-berals losing ethnic votes-and this is of far greater interest to LIE-berals than any amount of public safety! )
(Congratulations to LIE-berals for having destroyed the economy with insane taxes, loaded us up with massive debts, ruined the credibility of our legal system with hug a thug garbage and made a serious mess of public safety! But that`s LIE-berals for you-too stupid to follow and too corrupt to lead!)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/health/handguns-child-deaths-study/index.html
interesting study looks at the rise in handgun ownership in America and the concurrent rise in shooting deaths of children under 5.
it seems that more accidents happen with guns that are specifically bought for home/personal defense. Because they are stored loaded and readily accessible?
interesting study looks at the rise in handgun ownership in America and the concurrent rise in shooting deaths of children under 5.
it seems that more accidents happen with guns that are specifically bought for home/personal defense. Because they are stored loaded and readily accessible?
Gosh Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That IS a complicated thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So who fed it to you????????????????????????
And HOW does the Yankee habit of having guns laying EVERYWHERE ready for home defense compare to the Cdn LIE-beral desire to TAKE AWAY ALL LEGAL GUNS regardless of how carefully they are stored out of reach of kids??????????????????????????
And how will confiscating legal guns of Cdn hunters END the smuggling of Yankee sourced guns into Canada??????????????????
And HOW will LIE-beral harassment of duck hunters do ANYTHING to reduce the number of black morons shooting each other on the streets of Toronto?????????????????????????
And if LIE-berals are so hostile to hunting then why are they using helicopters to fly groups of PAID native hunters into a Nova Scotia Provincial Park to CULL the deer herds that are over running the park and eating rare vegetation?????????????????
And of course the hunters and their meat are being flown back out on helicopters as well since natives dont want the meat to go bad before they can get it into refrigerators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All that helicopter travel and fossil fuel usage- while LIE-beral Chicken LIttles scream in hysteria about the environment and force carbon taxes on us- yes- carbon TAX SCAMS that only clean cash from wallets and leave the dirt in the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals consistently call for gun control and IGNORE any call for CRIMINAL CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is that LIE-beral hug a thug DISHONESTY that is KILLING LIE-beral policy AND PUBLIC PERCEPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your jokes need changing, They are not funny. Not sure what it is but Florida in the cental region which includes Daytona, Orlando and Jacksonville from the eastern coast to the western one, has had at least 5 or more shootings every day for a couple of weeks. Many of them fatal
In that number were children one as young as two in his own home by a drive by shooting.. So why would you even quibble about the number killed or wounded. THERE WERE 19 children a day shot last year, At what level does it become unacceptable in your opinion???
POOR FOOLISH Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She has now talked herself BACK to the problem of CRIMINAL CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cops in Britain raided a shop that was illegally MAKING GUNS for the local gangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And early this winter- which Bluebyrdie may not be aware of because she is away doing her Snowbyrdie
thing in Arizona- is that TORONTO COPS also raided an illegal gun making shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yankees of course have all those LEGAL gun shops so no need for criminals to make guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In other news- Toronto cops have just announced that they WILL NO LONGER RESPOND TO NOISE COMPLAINTS LATE AT NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it has been some years now since Toronto Cops STOPPED coming to your house to write out burglary reports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now- if you need a cop report to give to your insurance company then you need to go to the station!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for collecting evidence like finger prints at the crime scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So WHAT IN HELL are cops doing on their work day now?????????????????????
They sure aint handing out tickets to crappy drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE ARE THEY????????????????????????????????????????
How short staffed are Toronto cops???????????????????????????????
And its been 15 years since the Calgary chief of police told us his department would NO LONGER investigate cases of mortgage fraud- because the banks cannot be bothered assisting the cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Banks would rather raise fees and move on than bother protecting OUR MONEY from predators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And of course LIE-berals continue their plea bargain crap that lets major crimes shrink into small ones and lets minor crimes fade out of sight completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then - as long as you dont stab a guard - the convict gets out again after serving ONE THIRD of their sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then LIE-berals WHINE that they are being miss understood when we accuse them of being soft on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Criminals VOTE too and LIE-berals are DESPERATE to BUY VOTES so they can cling to power at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why so much LIE-beral policy is FAILING and it is why they must issue such a major sewage flow of disgusting Fake News to cover some of their MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I 'quibbled' because you sat there and lied your ass off as if 9 dead was not enough to make your point. How can you be such a terrible human being, Bluebyrd?
Bluebyrd,
Something has been bothering me for several days. The definition of Quibble is "argue or raise objections about a trivial matter."
So you think that I am raising objections over a matter that you consider trivial? It could not possibly mean anything else.
So what does trivial mean? I am objecting to your false claiming 19 dead instead of 9 dead.
Clearly, you feel that you can embellish about the death of 10 children because it is 'trivial'?
9 is less than 10, so the actual 9 dead children is also something that you consider 'trivial'?
In your words, 9 dead children is trivial, this leads me back to the same question that I wrote in my last post:
How can you be such a terrible human being?
Something has been bothering me for several days. The definition of Quibble is "argue or raise objections about a trivial matter."
So you think that I am raising objections over a matter that you consider trivial? It could not possibly mean anything else.
So what does trivial mean? I am objecting to your false claiming 19 dead instead of 9 dead.
Clearly, you feel that you can embellish about the death of 10 children because it is 'trivial'?
9 is less than 10, so the actual 9 dead children is also something that you consider 'trivial'?
In your words, 9 dead children is trivial, this leads me back to the same question that I wrote in my last post:
How can you be such a terrible human being?
Pity our poor foolish Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She WANTS SO MANY incompatible things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She wants gun control so children wont shoot each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She also wants LIE-berals to remain in charge to ensure her "TWO SMALL GOVT PENSIONS" contiune to be paid -without getting hit with too many new taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But LIE-berals are SOFT on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LIE-berals refuse to spend their gravy on making border security TIGHTER so guns wont get smuggled in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our Byrdie wants us to open the borders and welcome THE DELUGE of illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But tending to The Deluge costs money and she wants OTHER PEOPLE TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Byrdie thinks the environment is okay with her owning and operating/heating and cooling two separate homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But she wants LIE-berals to make the rest of us PAY MORE for heat and light with the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax- because SHE is entitled and the rest of us are NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Byrdie thinks she is entitled to the grand dairy farm deals given her by Pierre Trudeau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But she is frustrated that LIE-berals have not done more to protect Cdns from Yankee tariffs on Cdn dairy products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes- Byrdie thinks she is entitled to more benefits than other Cdns because she is a Quebec civil service union Hog!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And she will DENY being a union Hog even though SHE WORKED all her life FOR GOVT and GOT PAID UNION RATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Byrdie thinks that being critical of LIE-beral policy - as readers of Toronto Sun tend to be- is a demonstration of Misogyny and Bigotry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Byrdie thinks that Toronto Sun is offensive to women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But it ANNOYS the HELL out of her that Toronto Sun writer Sue-Ann Levy is a self professed Jewish Lesbian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Sun editor in chief Adrian Batra is a Hindu female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Sun writers Michelle Mandel and Candace Malcolm are both blue eyed blondes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Byrdie feels her head trying to explode every time she thinks of the inconsistencies in her life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another domestically sourced gun.............another "reason" for the idiot Liberals to come down on honest Canadian shooters.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/michael-arcand-gun-saskatoon-police-standoff-1.5000803
BTW, the kudos I awarded the CBC for allowing a reporter from RCI to produce two truthful articles on the gun control debate are hereby withdrawn.
The articles have been taken down.
The CBC is Pravda.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/michael-arcand-gun-saskatoon-police-standoff-1.5000803
BTW, the kudos I awarded the CBC for allowing a reporter from RCI to produce two truthful articles on the gun control debate are hereby withdrawn.
The articles have been taken down.
The CBC is Pravda.
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Remember this?? It was the first one I posted!!
https://psmag.com/news/how-american-children-are-killed-by-guns
I posted those stats some time ago and those were deaths due to gun fire!! Shot not all died fortunately but it seems to me a rather nasty scenario.
I was so incensed with your callous attitude I wrote killed instead of shot. You clearly knew you were quibbling when you chose to ignore how quickly I corrected that phrase... You chose to pick on the mistake while ignoring the fact that 9 were killed every day! In case you have a problem with math as well as perspective ....that equals roughly 3105 dead a year. Shot but not all killed 6755 a year!! That is quibbling!
AND you feel I am a terrible human being because I feel there should be strict rules governing weapons. Does abolishing seat belts for children also feature as a high priority on your infringment of rights list of laws to be abolished?
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I remember some pointy-headed moron gassing on about "We fought WWII so that we don't have to wear seat belts" when they brought mandatory seat belt laws to Alberta back in the (80's?). Somehow, voluntary stupid gets convoluted into "freedom" in lesser minds all of the time.
Well, let's see.........as resident right wing weirdo, what do I think?
!. Seat belts. Oppose...........this is a personal choice, as no one else is harmed by my not wearing one. No excuse for a law.
2. Unleaded gasoline. Approve whole heartedly. In fact, unleaded gasoline could be responsible for the crash in murder rates in the USA over the past 40 years.
3. Tobacco. Divided........harmful, sometimes to non-users......but we long since passed the line where rational control becomes simple harassment and an infringement on liberty.
4. Vaccinations: Approve absolutely. Should be encouraged. But the state has NO right to force medical procedures, no matter how minor, on anyone. Ban the unvaccinated from public schools? All for it.
5. Birth control. Double plus good.
6. Guns. See number 3.
You're not doing that well with your generalizations.