Greatest Empire Ever
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well, as you seem to know a fair wack about the UK, u'll know the labour government were formed by the far left, well it's mellowed a bit, but when Tony came to power it swung to the middle right, there's nothing different anymore, no alternative, and it's thanks to tony.
plus he's done some pretty poor things in this country, taxing the very poor more than the rich, claiming he wants 75% to attend university then charges em thousands for it (suprisingly it was free, well grant funded before), he just says one thing and means another.
see Winston Churchill, now there's a great Englishman with dual US nationality, he wouldnt change his mind at a whim like tony, thats why a lot of ppl dont like him, he'll follow anything
plus he's done some pretty poor things in this country, taxing the very poor more than the rich, claiming he wants 75% to attend university then charges em thousands for it (suprisingly it was free, well grant funded before), he just says one thing and means another.
see Winston Churchill, now there's a great Englishman with dual US nationality, he wouldnt change his mind at a whim like tony, thats why a lot of ppl dont like him, he'll follow anything
Well I know much of your history and whatever I know about Tony is really what I get from the BBC and American news media. I don't know much about UK interior affairs, but he always struck me as a smart man. He may say something and do something else, but I am convinced he is doing it for the people.
I don't like Bush, BUT, I do agree with some of his policies, besides give Tony some credit, he has to deal with Bush and he i so very good at it :lol:
I don't like Bush, BUT, I do agree with some of his policies, besides give Tony some credit, he has to deal with Bush and he i so very good at it :lol:
he should be, he's a barrister (you know a senior Laywer) by trade, so's his wife.
Bush is just a thicko, Tony is something else altogether
Bush is just a thicko, Tony is something else altogether
Ya, I know barrister 
, I also liked the Iron Lady and yep Winston kickass Churchill
OK, I never did like your monarchy
, I also liked the Iron Lady and yep Winston kickass Churchill OK, I never did like your monarchy
no one does, it's just something we've stuck with, you know afraid of change and all that. The Iron Lady was very pro american but yet a fervant imperialist (which according to my american trek leader made perfect sense) and old Winnie, the greatest give an american woman ever gave the Uk
For some surely interesting reading on empires.....etc.
Some of the social undertones may be objectional to some ,
but many good information and historical connections.
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/index.htm
Some of the social undertones may be objectional to some ,
but many good information and historical connections.
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/index.htm
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Oh yeah, I also liked William Gladstone and Benjamin Disraeli, I never heard about Gladstone till an Irishman mentioned him to me in a bar :lol:
Oh yeah, I also liked William Gladstone and Benjamin Disraeli, I never heard about Gladstone till an Irishman mentioned him to me in a bar :lol:
the greatest empire ever was alexander's. its too bad that he was a bit of a drunk and died so young. when he conquered he kept the ex rulers in charge and gave them somes of gold that he aquired back to them to help their economy. another thing he was able to was unite the people. everyone respected him. he had religious groups fighting alongside each other and got all them to exchange their idea's together in the hopes creating something more. i dont have the book with me but he did make a speech about the different ethic groups fighting alongside each other. from quintus curtus rufus book. also, he wasnt making a greater greek empire, rather just an empire.
Yeah Gladstone was a bit of an enigma, a devout christian man who despised the empire, whereas Disraeli was an extremist christian/jew very strange mix.
him being the biggest imperialist of em all kinda makes Hitler's ideas about the almighty british empire and the so-called evil jews kinda fall apart.
yeah sorry I did my A-level's (high school diploma) in modern history
him being the biggest imperialist of em all kinda makes Hitler's ideas about the almighty british empire and the so-called evil jews kinda fall apart.
yeah sorry I did my A-level's (high school diploma) in modern history
Neallo, yeah Alexander was great, but he died too young to know how much of the world he would have conquered...I think he would have got to britain
Hey, I think not, sorry to branch from the topic like this, but I have a question. The way in which the United States of America broke away from the Canadian and British Monarchy those centuries ago was quite "extreme" for the time; as such, I was wondering...
Are citizens of the United States entitled, by law, to accept "styles" from a Monarch, in particular the Sovereign of the United Kingdom, or her representative in Canada? By way of example, if Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean were to invite the President of the United States to be styled "the Right Honourable" for life in the context of the Commonwealth, does he have the capacity to accept?
Not that I am suggesting we ever style a Rt. Hon. George Bush! Just curious.
Are citizens of the United States entitled, by law, to accept "styles" from a Monarch, in particular the Sovereign of the United Kingdom, or her representative in Canada? By way of example, if Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean were to invite the President of the United States to be styled "the Right Honourable" for life in the context of the Commonwealth, does he have the capacity to accept?
Not that I am suggesting we ever style a Rt. Hon. George Bush! Just curious.
I have no idea, I see no reason why they couldn't, although it would be a non issue here after a couple of days. The style wouldn't apply in the US, that's for sure. I know Bill Gates was knighted by the Queen, the press never refers to him though as Sir Bill Gates, I would imagine its the same with styles.
Re: RE: Greatest Empire Ever
Hmmm... that is a good question. I am sure that some Americans have been Knighted but I wonder if US politicians, especially seated ones can accept titles of royalty.
FiveParadox said:Hey, I think not, sorry to branch from the topic like this, but I have a question. The way in which the United States of America broke away from the Canadian and British Monarchy those centuries ago was quite "extreme" for the time; as such, I was wondering...
Are citizens of the United States entitled, by law, to accept "styles" from a Monarch, in particular the Sovereign of the United Kingdom, or her representative in Canada? By way of example, if Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean were to invite the President of the United States to be styled "the Right Honourable" for life in the context of the Commonwealth, does he have the capacity to accept?
Not that I am suggesting we ever style a Rt. Hon. George Bush! Just curious.
Hmmm... that is a good question. I am sure that some Americans have been Knighted but I wonder if US politicians, especially seated ones can accept titles of royalty.