Government Owned CBC Has Stabbed Conservatives In The Back Again

YukonJack

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TenPenny, both of those two worthies you mention used to work for CBC, until

1. They suddenly developed a conscience

or

2. CTV offered them better money.
 

wethreezimms

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wrong conversation again...

bloggers having the wrong conversations and minimizing the importance of important issues is taking an effective tool for democracy and rendering it a joke.
yes the cbc will be under some scrutiny, but their reporting of issues and facts (as they see them), should be applauded. truthful and accurate journalism is a pilar of a properly managed democracy.

inadvertantly and most likely unintentionally the bloggers who brought up cbc radio and their personal joy of country and western music and classical available for listening pleasure struck on a conversation we should be having. Should tax dollars be funding such programs or should it be left to private enterprise to provide this market? i favor private market. government spending should not be funding music programming.
 

Bar Sinister

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I really do not see why this government would view the CBC differently; after all the network is not doing anything now it has not done for the last 50 or 60 years. As for stabbing in the back it is hard to stab a Conservative anywhere else as they tend to run away from issues rather than face them.

And I disagree with the music comment, Whethreezims. From what I can tell the CBC tends to play music that no commercial radio station would touch with a three meter pole. I freely admit that over 90% of the music I hear on CBC is not something I enjoy even remotely. But then I don't listen to CBC for the music.
 

Avro

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CBC's biggest problem is that they do not offer any real objectivity in their reporting style(s) and journalism... They open themselves up to being labeled politically partisan in the eyes of many.

The CBC's job is to report news, nothing more, nothing less.

For doing just that they are labeled many things.
 

wethreezimms

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ref: From what I can tell the CBC tends to play music that no commercial radio station would touch with a three meter pole. I freely admit that over 90% of the music I hear on CBC is not something I enjoy even remotely...

if only a few canadians are listening to it why are we wasting valuable airtime. get an ipod.
 

JLM

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C.B.C. radio serves much more of a purpose than just reporting news (which it does accurately by the way) They analyse current events, they interview experts on things like automobiles and gardening, they entertain with people like Stuart MacLean. Best music is on Saturday evenings oldies from the 50s and 60s. On weekend mornings they have Cheryl MacKay for the Artsy Fartsys. C.B.C. covers a lot of Indian (first nation) concerns. Best of all it's a large part Canadian content.
 

TenPenny

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I used to love spending a summer evening reading by a fire, listening to the jazz on radio 2. Ross Porter, who used to host, is now on jazzfm, the non-profit out of Toronto. Vinyl Tap is interesting, too, listening to Randy Bachman's commentary and music picks.

I must admit, CBC is what I tend to listen to most in the car when I'm in control of the music. Sure, sometimes it's a bit politically tiresome, but it can be quite interesting.

I've really enjoyed the show about advertising, done by Terry OReilly. I find it quite fascinating.
 

YukonJack

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Whenever I travel by car between Winnipeg and my Ontario destinations I listen to CD's rather than the predictable pap on CBC, which is the only radio you can get in the cultural waste land of Northern Ontario.

BTW who the Heck are Ross Porter, Randy Bachmann and Terry O'Reilley?
 

TenPenny

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BTW who the Heck are Ross Porter, Randy Bachmann and Terry O'Reilley?

You'll never know, I guess.

As I said, Ross Porter is a guy who used to host the evening jazz program on CBC. Now he works for jazzfm.
Terry OReilly is an advertizing guy, who does a half hour show about advertizing. It's very interesting, if you like to learn about the world around you.
Randy Bachmann is a guy who hosts a show where he plays music and talks about how some music influences others. I think he plays jazz now, I believe he has a son who's a musician.

Oh yeah, he used to be in a couple of bands, can you guess who one of them was?
 

Slim Chance

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The CBC's job is to report news, nothing more, nothing less.

For doing just that they are labeled many things.


They don't do it objectively; and as such, they are not being journalists as much as offering subjective editorialism.

One of these times if you're up really early, tune into a BBC news broadcast and you'll see the difference.
 

Slim Chance

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As I see it, both the CBC and CTV have their own political spins on the news and neither is better then the other in that respect.

It's pretty obvious the CBC has a Liberal bias & CTV has a Conservative bias and it's not just in the colors they use in their corporate identity.


I agree with pretty much all of your observations in what you had submitted excepting one element that applies to the above.

The CBC is 100% publicly funded; CTV is not. The CBC should no political bent whatsoever if they wish to maintain their subsidized status.
 

Bar Sinister

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I used to love spending a summer evening reading by a fire, listening to the jazz on radio 2. Ross Porter, who used to host, is now on jazzfm, the non-profit out of Toronto. Vinyl Tap is interesting, too, listening to Randy Bachman's commentary and music picks.

I must admit, CBC is what I tend to listen to most in the car when I'm in control of the music. Sure, sometimes it's a bit politically tiresome, but it can be quite interesting.

I've really enjoyed the show about advertising, done by Terry OReilly. I find it quite fascinating.

Right. O'Reilly's Age of Persuasion is brilliant. For anyone who wants understand the advertising industry it is a must hear. Extremely entertaining and a perfect example of what the CBC does best.

ref: From what I can tell the CBC tends to play music that no commercial radio station would touch with a three meter pole. I freely admit that over 90% of the music I hear on CBC is not something I enjoy even remotely...

if only a few canadians are listening to it why are we wasting valuable airtime. get an ipod.

You are missing the point. The CBC does not see its mandate as competing with the private networks. It focuses on performers and groups that mainstream media would completely ignore and does a fine job of it. As a result a number of issues and performers have been brought to the public's attention that would have been completely ignored otherwise.

The CBC is 100% publicly funded; CTV is not. The CBC should no political bent whatsoever if they wish to maintain their subsidized status.

On the contrary; due to the fact that a public broadcaster cannot be pressured by advertisers it can deal with issues that a commercial broadcaster might shy away from. It is a model similar to the ABC, BBC, and so on, dealing with issues that might be otherwise ignored. Most nations have a government run media outlet and Canada is no exception. If you want a truly comprehensive view of the news tune into CBC radio at six p.m. and then stick around for As It Happens following the news.
 

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I used to listen to CBC radio for classical music, when I lived in Ontario.

Here in Winnipeg, where I live now, classical music on the airwaives is hard to come by (one French-speaking station, only).

So, if CBC can't provide a basic service, it deserves to be taken off the public trough.
ever heard of CBC 2?
 

#juan

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Virtually every country in the world has a public radio/TV network. I think Australia has two. The U.S has several. All those people screaming for the CBC's demise don't know what they are asking. Do they really want us to get all our news from Global or one of the other American networks? We know how accurate FOX news is. The CBC provides an important service to people up north and in outlying communities. These services were offered to CTV and some of the others but they didn't want any part of them. No money in providing service I guess. The CBC provides service and education in eight aboriginal languages. Who can replace that
 

YukonJack

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#juan, the tired old argument that the CBC provides service to people up North, does not wash any more, in the age of satellite technology.
 

Slim Chance

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You are missing the point. The CBC does not see its mandate as competing with the private networks. It focuses on performers and groups that mainstream media would completely ignore and does a fine job of it. As a result a number of issues and performers have been brought to the public's attention that would have been completely ignored otherwise.


I understand that CBC is not intended to compete with the private sector, however, that does not justify the episodes of biased reporting or plain-old fallacies that are not uncommon with the CBC. In fact, as a government sponsored broadcaster, they are fully expected to be objective and simply report the events... Outside of the specific opinion pieces that are aired the CBC is not anywhere close to that ideal in their everyday reporting.

Case in point, they aired a segment on the Current regarding the Louisiana oil spill. The "environmental expert" they interviewed stated that BP was in error and pointed to their shoddy track record relative to the AB oil sands... Tremonti acknowledged and supported this speakers comments

Where's the problem with this?.... BP has no active operations in AB oilsands.

.... That's a pretty big mistake.


On the contrary; due to the fact that a public broadcaster cannot be pressured by advertisers it can deal with issues that a commercial broadcaster might shy away from. It is a model similar to the ABC, BBC, and so on, dealing with issues that might be otherwise ignored.


Again, this is not justification for biased reporting... Considering that the CBC isn't pressured by the private sector, what, exactly, is their excuse for their bias?
 

TenPenny

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Case in point, they aired a segment on the Current regarding the Louisiana oil spill. The "environmental expert" they interviewed stated that BP was in error and pointed to their shoddy track record relative to the AB oil sands... Tremonti acknowledged and supported this speakers comments

Where's the problem with this?.... BP has no active operations in AB oilsands.

.... That's a pretty big mistake.

Did they specify that BP's 'shoddy track record' was in regards to active operations in the oil sands, or were they discussing the history of BP's operations there?

A 'track record' would suggest past performance, which has nothing to do with currently active operations.
 

Avro

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They don't do it objectively; and as such, they are not being journalists as much as offering subjective editorialism.

One of these times if you're up really early, tune into a BBC news broadcast and you'll see the difference.


Do you have proof?

Just asking, I have heard this accusation many times but have never seen it.