Gnostic Christian Mystery School Secret Truth #1.

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Here is something that will make you smile. (bear in mind the article might be part of some wide-ranging conspiracy )

Study Suggests Conspiracy Theorists Are More Positive & ‘Sane’ Compared To Conventional Thinkers | Collective-Evolution

A case study examining online commenting trends was performed by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent that revealed so called “conspiracy theorists” are actually more mentally sane (reasonable & sensible) than those who are considered conventionalists.
Not that long ago, practically anyone who thought outside of the box, questioned the official stories, or did any type of investigation into certain subjects was labeled a “conspiracy theorist.” In fact, many of these people, including the majority of the writers here at Collective Evolution, are still considered conspiracy theorists by many even though the goal is simply to examine or verify the truth of something.
It is interesting how many of the people who are labeled as conspiracy theorists spend a lot of time with research and critical thinking. Sure there are always going to be more extreme people who lend a “bad name” to those who are legitimately assessing evidence, but it doesn’t mean the entire idea of conspiracy is invalid.
Many will check the facts, and look into the evidence on both sides of the coin. Generally the people who believe the mainstream idea of what is true, or is accepted as truth do not bother to look at the other side of the coin. They believe what they are told without question, and anyone who disagrees is, well, crazy, or a conspiracy theorist. Or in other words, paranoid.
The fascinating part is, it’s become some common place amongst society for people to not want to be labeled as a conspiracy theorist that anytime political leaders or the media wish to make something unquestionable, they will literally use the words “conspiracy theorists” in their speeches or reports when referring to anyone who wishes to question the story.
Cheers, Happy Eggnogging

The light is everywhere and you glimpse such a tiny sliver through your blinders. Very sad indeed.
Did you miss the part about the Bible being one work that is in the 'hobby section', the other hours would be in the 'workshop'. Luckily the view of having a view about the Bible is enough that I don't have to hang out a 'No Loitering' sign. The difference is I can live in a world where your version of God is different, you can't live in a world where there are believers such as myself, 'we' make you a tad uncomfortable as our version could nulify all your hard work with just a sentence or two.
 

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Gnostic Christian Mystery School Secret Truth #1.

All that can and is said of all Gods is speculative by nature as none of it is provable. To state that God exists cannot be a true statement unless one has a God to show. This is irrefutable as it can be shown that all Gods are based on ancient myths and stories. They are always to remain mysterious.

All religions are based on myths, legends and hope in an afterlife that unfortunately turned to literal belief, --- and this one issue created the war against free thought that led to the purge of many cults that did not want to read literally and to the Inquisition and the Dark Ages. It ended the Mystery Schools.

Literalists cannot help but be wrong unless they rely on blind faith and that faith of fools has pushed Christians and Muslims to kill many due to this blind faith mind set. Christians will kill again, --- just like Islam is doing today thanks to literal reading, --- given the chance.

Christian literalist won against free thinking religions thanks to Constantine’s support --- but they cannot win today thanks to an intelligent population who are not superstitious nor as gullible as in past times and do not believe in fantasy, miracles and magic.

Is literal reading of any scripture or holy book mentally good, or mentally evil?

Has literal reading done the damage I alluded to or has it been a good influence for mankind?

Regards
DL


Still doesn't answer the three questions that ALL thiestic religions pose. Where we originated, for what purpose, and unto what destiny. Gnosticism failed spectacularly at all. Like all cults it set up a scriptorium of 'secrets'.. to which only 'illuminati' were permitted entry.

Gnosticism devised its own gratuitous rituals to give it some appearance of credibility. It rationalized all gratification and materialism as privilege, in fact a route, to ultimate 'wisdom'. And finally it collapsed under its own weight of illogic, inconsistencies and false rationales. It has had echoes throughout the millennia, most recently in the 'New Age' movement that began in the early 70s.

It wasn't Constantine who brought in the rational, unified Christian theology.. that put an end to superstition and heresies of corrupt credos like Gnosticism and Arianism.. but the great Fathers of Church, including Sts. Jerome, Augustine, Gregory, Ambrose... and Fathers of Desert Mysticism such as Sts. John Chrysostum and Anastasius.. and brought together in the seminal Church Councils.. especially those of Nicea and Chalcedon.
 
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Still doesn't answer the three questions that ALL thiestic religions pose. Where we originated, for what purpose, and unto what destiny. Gnosticism failed spectacularly at all. Like all cults it set up a scriptorium of 'secrets'.. to which only 'illuminati' were permitted entry.


The purpose of life is to win it. The soul is misrepresented in the big three MacReligions. In direct opposition to the past natural philosophy. The soul has purpose in this life of flesh. The purpose of the flesh is to provide resistance, upon which character is learned. Life is the only hell we will know.
And the purpose of the soul here in hell is to remember heaven which we are rendered dead to by virtue of material considerations. The task is to effect mind over matter. Nothing more nothing less, or you reincarnate to repeat the lesson.



Gnosticism devised its own gratuitous rituals to give it some appearance of credibility. It rationalized all gratification and materialism as privilege, in fact a route, to ultimate 'wisdom'. And finally it collapsed under its own weight of illogic, inconsistencies and false rationales. It has had echoes throughout the millennia, most recently in the 'New Age' movement that began in the early 70s.

You are citing a degenerate Gnostic habits of a much later school. All philosophies withered in the dark ages, only the Christianism thrived on complete subjugation under the blackest ignorance ever witnessed. The seventies were not an age, I remember them, they were stupid wastes of time.


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[FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]It wasn't Constantine who brought in the rational, unified Christian theology.. that put an end to superstition and heresies of corrupt credos like Gnosticism and Arianism.. but the great Fathers of Church, including Sts. Jerome, Augustine, Gregory, Ambrose... and Fathers of Desert Mysticism such as Sts. John Chrysostum and Anastasius.. and brought together in the seminal Church Councils.. especially those of Nicea and Chalcedon.


An end to superstition you say! Christians still eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ and worship idolatrous replications of his tortured death. By the time of Constantine most of the real Christians were dead and made possible the God Corporation, savers of souls, castles, gold, silver, precious gems, slaves and vast properties complete with serfs who were kept in a state of abject ignorance for sixteen centuries.

 

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The purpose of life is to win it. The soul is misrepresented in the big three MacReligions. In direct opposition to the past natural philosophy. The soul has purpose in this life of flesh. The purpose of the flesh is to provide resistance, upon which character is learned. Life is the only hell we will know.

And the purpose of the soul here in hell is to remember heaven which we are rendered dead to by virtue of material considerations. The task is to effect mind over matter. Nothing more nothing less, or you reincarnate to repeat the lesson.


You are citing a degenerate Gnostic habits of a much later school. All philosophies withered in the dark ages, only the Christianism thrived on complete subjugation under the blackest ignorance ever witnessed. The seventies were not an age, I remember them, they were stupid wastes of time.


There's no 'winning' in life. All natural life leads to death. There was no 'natural philosophy' beyond that which a supernatural quality can attach some rational purpose beyond death.

All nature will wind down into entropy.. therefor only the soul onto which your own flesh conforms can have any hope of eternality.

And Gnosticism has been completely consistent and unchanged.. from the cauldrons of the neolithic.. to the post modern New Age.
 

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There's no 'winning' in life. All natural life leads to death. There was no 'natural philosophy' beyond that which a supernatural quality can attach some rational purpose beyond death.

Well the win of life is heaven and only an impeccable life in the material body can get you there. The old schools taught that from the souls perspective being trapped in a fleshy body was death and the experiance here for that soul was hellish,hence the famous trials and tribulations and that the soul free of the constraining flesh knew a more perfect higher life.


All nature will wind down into entropy.. therefor only the soul onto which your own flesh conforms can have any hope of eternality.

It is the souls purpose here on earth to resist conformation to the weaknesses of the flesh.

And Gnosticism has been completely consistent and unchanged.. from the cauldrons of the neolithic.. to the post modern New Age.
I disagree, but it's another subject for some other evening.
 

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Zec:14:7:
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day,
nor night:
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
 

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Actually God did not leave a book behind. His followers wrote it after his death
The four books of the New Testament were a series of compromises made by the
four leading contenders for the leadership Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.
there are several other Gospels that were written and ignored as the four kept
the early Church together. Perhaps many mysteries of the Bible are not Mysteries
they are works unfinished as the others did not get to fill in the blanks.
As for actual writing Christ didn't write it the four of the twelve wrote down what they
said Christ said to me the is hearsay and little more.


His followers or those who would use Jesus against the Jews to pacify them?


Some think Rome created the whole Jesus myth.




Regards
DL

The world is such a small place when your head is stuck in a book. The world is vast, humanity in the billions, a wide variety of cultures, beliefs and practices and you pick one out of thousands and you think you have found the only true one. Such a narrow mind will find no truth or wisdom in such a tiny hole in reality. The light is everywhere and you glimpse such a tiny sliver through your blinders. Very sad indeed.



I am starting to like how this guy thinks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba_KsblXmvQ&list=PLMTyLa3Dxxt5qaw7xJuIOqc4fu_I8nxmz&index=3


Regards
DL

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Still doesn't answer the three questions that ALL thiestic religions pose. Where we originated, for what purpose, and unto what destiny. Gnosticism failed spectacularly at all. Like all cults it set up a scriptorium of 'secrets'.. to which only 'illuminati' were permitted entry.

Gnosticism devised its own gratuitous rituals to give it some appearance of credibility. It rationalized all gratification and materialism as privilege, in fact a route, to ultimate 'wisdom'. And finally it collapsed under its own weight of illogic, inconsistencies and false rationales. It has had echoes throughout the millennia, most recently in the 'New Age' movement that began in the early 70s.

It wasn't Constantine who brought in the rational, unified Christian theology.. that put an end to superstition and heresies of corrupt credos like Gnosticism and Arianism.. but the great Fathers of Church, including Sts. Jerome, Augustine, Gregory, Ambrose... and Fathers of Desert Mysticism such as Sts. John Chrysostum and Anastasius.. and brought together in the seminal Church Councils.. especially those of Nicea and Chalcedon.




Where we originated is not as good a question as compared to what Gnostic Christians were asking Constantine's Christians.
That being, why are you killing us for not believing we came from where you say we came from.
Our origins are not nearly as important as how we treat each other.


For what purpose. To learn how to treat each other and we can thank Christians for teaching us how not to treat each other.


For what destiny? Who cares if we are the best possible humans when we get there and that is what Gnostic Christianity teaches.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D



The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized to activate your higher mind.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded



This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y



When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human.



Regards


DL







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An end to superstition you say! Christians still eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ and worship idolatrous replications of his tortured death. By the time of Constantine most of the real Christians were dead and made possible the God Corporation, savers of souls, castles, gold, silver, precious gems, slaves and vast properties complete with serfs who were kept in a state of abject ignorance for sixteen centuries.


Darkbeaver


You see 20/20


Regards
DL




And Gnosticism has been completely consistent and unchanged...


Not true. For instance we would no longer include any notion of the earth or matter being evil mas we would recognize that nature creates every life for the best possible end.


This is irrefutable.


Regards
DL
 

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The "Egyptians" are in gloom, but the "Israelites have light in their dwellings." The home of light for the glorified is Ammah, the place of no more night. When we realize that the Israelites were not an earth race, but a host of sun-fragments of intellect in incarnation, we can catch the sublime imputations in these figurative details of scripture.


It may fall with disconcerting effect upon religionists who so sharply differentiate between Old and New Testaments to be told that the Old Testament exodus is identical in meaning with the New Testament resurrection! To be sure, it is set forth under vastly different forms of typology in the two versions. The Hebrew representation perhaps also depicts the entire scope of the cycle rather than just the concluding or climactic stage of it. Massey’s words will make this clear:
"Thus the origin of the exodus, as Egyptian, was in the coming forth of the heavenly bodies from below the horizon as the mythical representation. This was followed by the coming forth of the Manes from dark to day, from death to life, from bondage to liberty, from Lower Egypt to Upper Egypt in the eschatology."3
The exodus, he says, is the experience of the Manes in making their journey through, and their exit from, Amenta.
Luke’s "multitude of the heavenly host praising God" fills also the Book of the Dead with celestial chorus: "They rejoice at his beautiful coming forth from the womb of Nut," or, as it might be rendered, the womb of Meri (Mary), for Meri is another name for the Mother-heaven. And as the glory appeared to the shepherds in such effulgence that they were sore afraid, so "the coming forth to day is attended by
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a great flood of light that emanated from the solar glory and enveloped him entirely


It is singular that Paul (Ephesians 3:3 ff) speaks in quite similar terms of a mystery made known to him "which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men; as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the spirit"--that the Gentiles should be fellow-heirs and partakers of the promise of Christhood. It would seem, then, that the great aeonial mystery of this portion of the universe was the coming of the solar deities to link with the animal races and lift them up. This is the theme of our book. It is for men the greatest of all mysteries, since it is the mystery of his own being. We, unspiritualized, are the Gentiles.http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm