Glasgow crash kills at least six: Garbage truck plows into crowd at George Square

lone wolf

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Of course the Liberals want to defend Islam.. I get it.. you look at the world in rose colored glasses.

Yes it would be nice if there was no war, no hunger, and no starvation, no disease and everyone got along. But we don't live in a fairy tail, we live in the real world... so snap out of it. ;)

No ... I just don't jump to conclusions and want to kill everyone in the name of a big mouth and stupidity. You claim to have driven a truck. Do you even bother with a circle check in your perfect little world?
 

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Do you even bother with a circle check in your perfect little world?

Every single time..

That is why I can pretty much walk into any trucking company and get a job the same day.. run my DAC Report and no tickets, no log book infractions, no shut downs, no maintenance issues.

It takes very little time to prevent an accident that could kill innocent people, and then I would have to live with that for the rest of my life.

Personally, I think Canada need to legislate every trucking company in Canada to use PeopleNet and a DashCam in the truck.

PeopleNet would force company and driver to follow legal hours.

DashCam would see if that driver is paying attention, not texting while driving and in the event of an accident see who is responsible, speed, road conditions, weather and so on.

Sample:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-tbwASICFk
 

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Why bother with the circle check at all if only a terrorist act causes a crash?

That's Scotland ... and on a wet road. Can a circle check prevent someone from doing something stupid in front of you, causing you to take evasive action - which, in turn, can result in eighteen-wheel (ten, in that case) ballet?

I certainly hope, for your sake, there's not a crowd of you around when it happens
 

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Why bother with the circle check at all if only a terrorist act causes a crash?

That's Scotland ... and on a wet road. Can a circle check prevent someone from doing something stupid in front of you, causing you to take evasive action - which, in turn, can result in eighteen-wheel (ten, in that case) ballet?

I certainly hope, for your sake, there's not a crowd of you around when it happens

Yeah, seems he was looking ill before the accident.. remembered I posted this before all the details were in and they were updating the news article online. I just said I hope it's not terrorism.. didn't point fingers.

Tell me was that driver in Scotland leaving more space because of weather conditions, did he lower his speed in heavier traffic??

Actually, I think ONTARIO's speed restriction on trucks is a good start.
 

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This is the second tragedy in succession which has hit Glasgow just before Christmas. Last year's Clutha helicopter crash, which happened on 29th November, killed 10 people.

There's been no word yet as to what religion the bin lorry driver is. It'll be interesting to find out.
 

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This is the second tragedy in succession which has hit Glasgow just before Christmas. Last year's Clutha helicopter crash, which happened on 29th November, killed 10 people.

There's been no word yet as to what religion the bin lorry driver is. It'll be interesting to find out.

Because Muslims don't have accidents, and non-Muslims don't commit terrorism.
 

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Because Muslims don't have accidents, and non-Muslims don't commit terrorism.

Yeah. I knew it. You Lefties just don't inhabit the real world. You believe what you WANT to think about the world rather than choosing to see it as it is.

How many Christians have blown themselves up in crowded marketplaces recently?

When was the last time that Hindu terrorists blew up the London Underground?

Have there been any instances recently of a group of Sikhs hijacking an aeroplane and flying it into a skyscraper?

What about the Buddhists? Can you give me a recent example of Buddhist atrocities?

When was the last time a Jewish terrorist held people hostage in a Sydney cafe or killed hudnreds of children in a Pakistani school?

When an incident like the one in Glasgow last night occurs, people are naturally going to initially assume that it could be TERRORISM, what with all the terriorism around the world lately. And, of course, people are going to naturally assume that it's MUSLIM terrorism, considering that the vast majority of terrorists in the world are Muslims and most terrorist attacks are done by Muslims.

Unless you're pretty stupid like the average Left-winger, you're not going to to think: "Oh, bloody hell. Are those bloody Buddhists at it?" or "Oh. A bus has blown up in Manchester. Must be those Sikhs." Thick Lefties like you may think that, but the sensible majority will naturally assume it's the Muslims again.

Anyway, now that I've sorted one of the resident loony Lefties out, here is some footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QGMthJthq7M


People screaming and people lying dead and injured - Haunting aftermath of Glasgow bin lorry crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AyvfFknRWc&feature=player_detailpage


It's been confirmed that five women and one man were killed.
 
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Yeah. I knew it. You Lefties just don't inhabit the real world. You believe what you WANT to think about the world rather than choosing to see it as it is.

How many Christians have blown themselves up in crowded marketplaces recently?
I assume you're defining "recently" as "since the last IRA attack," right?

When was the last time that Hindu terrorists blew up the London Underground?

Have there been any instances recently of a group of Sikhs hijacking an aeroplane and flying it into a skyscraper?
Not that I recollect, but the good news is that didn't stop a good, Gawd-fearin' Christian from shooting up a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, killing six and wounding four. But I'm sure you'll tell me that's not terrorism.

What about the Buddhists? Can you give me a recent example of Buddhist atrocities?

When was the last time a Jewish terrorist held people hostage in a Sydney cafe or killed hudnreds of children in a Pakistani school?
Never that I recall. When was the last time an Aussie kidnapped and murdered a Palestinian teenager?

When an incident like the one in Glasgow last night occurs, people are naturally going to initially assume that it could be TERRORISM, what with all the terriorism around the world lately. And, of course, people are going to naturally assume that it's MUSLIM terrorism, considering that the vast majority of terrorists in the world are Muslims. Unless you're pretty stupid like the average Left-winger, you're not going to to think: "Oh, bloody hell. Are those bloody Buddhists at it?" or "Oh. A bus has blown up in Manchester. Must be those Sikhs." Thick Lefties like you may think that, but the sensible majority will naturally assume it's the Muslims again.
I recollect a time when it woulda been Irish terrorism.

You keep on doing what you call "thinking," Blackleaf. It's kinda fun to watch.
 

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I assume you're defining "recently" as "since the last IRA attack," right?

It's not Irish terrorists that the British people are worrying about now. It is, quite rightly, Muslim terrorists that the British people are worrying about. After that incident in Glasgow last night, people would have assumed that it's MUSLIM terrorists, not Irish terrorists, and quite understandably.

Sensible Glaswegians didn't run round saying: "It's the Irish! It's the Irish!" They ran round saying "It's the Muslims! It's the Muslims". And you can't blame them.


Not that I recollect, but the good news is that didn't stop a good, Gawd-fearin' Christian from shooting up a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, killing six and wounding four. But I'm sure you'll tell me that's not terrorism.

Just one isolated incident. Only thick lefties like you could think there is a major global problem with Christian terrorism.

The world doesn't find Christian, or Sikh, or Jewish, or Hindu, or Zoroastrian, or Buddhist terrorism to be a major problem. It's MUSLIM terrorism which is the major problem in the world today.

When a terrorist attack occurs in America or Europe or China or Australia or Uzbekistan, people don't suddenly assume that it's Christians or Sikhs or Jews or Hindus or the Irish who have done it. They don't think: "Oh, God. Is it those bloody Buddhists again? They assume it's the Muslims and, nine times out of ten, they're right.

Never that I recall. When was the last time an Aussie kidnapped and murdered a Palestinian teenager?

I don't know. Do you know? I didn't realise Aussies kidnapping Paleosimians was a real problem in the world today. Paleosimian terrorism is much more of a problem.

I recollect a time when it woulda been Irish terrorism.

Yeah? And when was that? Back in the 1970s and 1980s. Of course, Britain still has a major problem with Irish terrorism today, doesn't it? We all know that it was really the Paddies who committed 7/7. And Britain's threat levels are currently high due to the high threat of Irish, rather than Muslim, terrorism, aren't they?


You keep on doing what you call "thinking," Blackleaf. It's kinda fun to watch.

Not as fun to watch as seeing you and your fellow Loony Lefties wriggling and squirming uncomfortably as they fail rather miserably to persuade people that Muslim terrorism really isn't a big problem in the world and that we should be more worried about the Christians and Irish.

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Three of the six victims of the Glasgow bin lorry crash were members of the same family, BBC Scotland understands.

Jack Sweeney, his wife Lorraine and their 18-year-old granddaughter Erin McQuade were among the dead.

Mr and Mrs Sweeney were from Dumbarton. Their granddaughter worked for Cameron House Hotel Resort, near Loch Lomond.

Police have confirmed that those who died included five females and one male and said 10 others, including the driver, were injured.

Of the 10 casualties, four have since been discharged, while six others remain in hospital. Two casualties are in an intensive therapy unit.

It is believed Mr Sweeney had previously lived in Ontario, in the east of Canada, where he was president of Bramalea Celtic supporters club.

A statement posted on the Bramalea Celtic supporters club Facebook page said: "It is with great shock and sadness we share with you our friend and past president Jack Sweeney, his wife Lorraine and granddaughter Erin were victims of today's tragedy in Glasgow.

"Our thoughts and prayers go to the family and friends of the Sweeney family."


George Square crash: Three family members killed in Glasgow

23 December 2014
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The tragedy occurred not long after Glasgow held a memorial service to mark the 1st anniversary of the Clutha helicopter crash which killed 10 people

Three of the six victims of the Glasgow bin lorry crash were members of the same family, BBC Scotland understands.

Jack Sweeney, his wife Lorraine and their 18-year-old granddaughter Erin McQuade were among the dead.

Mr and Mrs Sweeney were from Dumbarton. Their granddaughter worked for Cameron House Hotel Resort, near Loch Lomond.

Police have confirmed that those who died included five females and one male and said 10 others, including the driver, were injured.

It is believed Mr Sweeney had previously lived in Ontario, in the east of Canada, where he was president of Bramalea Celtic supporters club.

A statement posted on the Bramalea Celtic supporters club Facebook page said: "It is with great shock and sadness we share with you our friend and past president Jack Sweeney, his wife Lorraine and granddaughter Erin were victims of today's tragedy in Glasgow.

"Our thoughts and prayers go to the family and friends of the Sweeney family."

Mr Sweeney and his wife Lorraine are understood to be an elderly couple.

Their granddaughter Erin worked at Cameron House, which said in a statement: "Cameron House Hotel and Resort are saddened to hear we have lost one of our brightest and dedicated members of housekeeping staff, Erin McQuade.

"We want to offer our deepest condolences and sympathies to the family of Erin and to all those who have been affected by the tragic events at George Square yesterday."

Of the 10 casualties, four have since been discharged, while six others remain in hospital. Two casualties are in an intensive therapy unit.

Bodies removed

The bodies of the victims were removed from the scene overnight in a fleet of private ambulances.

An investigation is continuing to establish the exact circumstances surrounding the crash. Police said they hoped to re-open George Square later on Tuesday.

Glasgow City Council leader Gordon Matheson said the plan was to have the square, which hosts the city's Christmas Festival, fully operational on Wednesday.

The council has also opened a book of condolence at the City Chambers, near to where the crash happened.


Lord Provost Sadie Docherty and Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon look at flowers left near to the scene

Mr Matheson, Lord Provost Sadie Docherty and First Minister Nicola Sturgeon all spoke near the scene on Tuesday morning where hundreds of floral tributes have been placed.

Ms Sturgeon said: "Glasgow this morning is a broken-hearted city. 2014 has been such an incredible year for this wonderful city, the Commonwealth Games were such an outstanding success, but it is a year that has been bookended by two unimaginable tragedies, the Clutha at the end of last year and now this awful tragedy that unfolded here yesterday.


"But Glasgow is a resilient city, we saw last year and we have seen again in the last 24 hours the incredible spirit of the people of Glasgow and this city will pull together to support those who have been affected, not just in the days ahead but in the weeks and months to come.

"We are reminded today of that spirit of Glasgow, this is a city I am so deeply proud to call my home and I know I will be one of many whose thoughts and prayers particularly over the Christmas period are with all those who have been so tragically affected by what happened yesterday."

The first minister said that "like everyone else" she wanted to know what had caused "this dreadful incident" and stressed that police were "absolutely focused on completing that investigation as quickly as possible and giving people the answers they seek".

Church service

Earlier, Ms Sturgeon said flags would fly at half-mast on government buildings out of respect.

On Tuesday morning, a service of remembrance for victims of the crash was held at the Church of Scotland's St George's Tron Church, located yards from the crash scene.

Presbytery Clerk and former Moderator Very Rev Bill Hewitt told the service that "we feel for the pain of others in this city".

He added: "We understand something of the burden carried the hearts by those who have lost loved ones, who are concerned for those in hospital, for emergency workers who have been on the frontline in meeting human need and offering themselves."



Roman Catholic Archbishop Philip Tartaglia will say mass for the victims at St Andrew's Cathedral in Glasgow on Wednesday.

Police Scotland is expected to release details of the victims once formal identification has taken place.

The force said there appeared to be nothing "sinister" about the crash and said it was still carrying out investigations at the scene.
Signs flattened

It is known that the lorry struck a pedestrian outside the Gallery of Modern Art (Goma), then mounted the pavement and travelled hundreds of metres, hitting several others.

The lorry, operated by the city council, flattened street signs as it travelled along Queen Street and the side of George Square.

It finally crashed into the Millennium Hotel, beside the entrance to Queen Street station in George Square at 14:30 on Monday.

Eyewitnesses said the lorry driver had been "slumped over his wheel".

Glasgow City Council confirmed that three employees were in the lorry before the crash.

George Ieronymdis, owner of the Elia Greek Restaurant on George Square, said he had been told that some of the bin lorry's crew were seen jumping from the vehicle and holding their heads in their hands, looking devastated.



Police Scotland have asked for anyone with photographs, videos or any type of mobile footage of the incident to contact them, using a a dedicated email address.

A spokesman for the Institute of Traffic Accident Investigators said that vehicles, even large ones, can carry on for a considerable distance if there is an "unintended acceleration", which could be caused by a driver falling ill.

"Without speculating on this incident, there might be a number of causes for a vehicle to travel a considerable distance," he said.




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Leave it to our resident Terrorist sympathizer to defend Islam... once more.

i'm not defending islam, i'm arguing against your tired and inane blanket statements of an entire group of people. you actually treat islam and terrorism as synonymous when any sane-thinking person knows that is simply nonsense.

Now are you seriously gonna call those members islamophobes? you dumbass apologist???


of all people you're the one who is going to call me an apologist? the person who defends israel murdering children?
 

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Just one isolated incident. Only thick lefties like you could think there is a major global problem with Christian terrorism.

Good. If you say "there are no Christian terrorists" and I prove you have your head up your a$$, change the statement to "there is no major global problem with Christian terrorism." And if I prove your recto-cranial infarction on that one, you'll just change the thesis again, so why should I bother? Why don't we just settle on "One of the many groups Boomer hates categorically is Muslims," and leave it at that?
 

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Good. If you say "there are no Christian terrorists" and I prove you have your head up your a$$, change the statement to "there is no major global problem with Christian terrorism."

There is NO global problem with Christian terrorists. The world isn't running scared of Christian terrorism. It is running scared of Muslim terrorism. Any country around the world that has high alert levels because of terrorism are that high because of ISLAMIC terrorism. It is ISLAMIC terrorism that is the MAJOR problem in the world today, NOT Christian terrorism or Sikh terrorism or Jewish terrorism or Hindu terrorism or Zoroastrian terrorism or Rastafarian terrorism. It is ISLAM which is the problem in today's world. ISLAM. When a bomb blows up in a crowded marketplace killing hundreds of innocent people or a major shooting takes place at a Kenyan shopping centre or another atrocity occurs in Nigeria or Christians and Yazidi are butchered in the Middle East, people around the world don't instantly think "Oh, bloody hell. Are those Hindus are it again?" or "Christ, those Zoroastrians are at it again!". No. People think "It's those bloody Muslims again" and, nine times out of ten, they are RIGHT.

Britain's Threat Level for "'international' terrorism" (in other words, Muslim terrorism) is currently "SEVERE" yet it's Threat Level for "Northern Ireland related terrorism" is only "MODERATE". So Britain sees Muslim terrorism as much more of a threat than Irish republican terrorism.

Threat of Muslim terrorism in Britain = SEVERE
Threat of Irish republican terrorism in Britain = MODERATE


And if I prove your recto-cranial infarction on that one, you'll just change the thesis again, so why should I bother? Why don't we just settle on "One of the many groups Boomer hates categorically is Muslims," and leave it at that?


There's a good reason that many people now hate Muslims and Islam, and it's a reason that the Muslims have all brought on themsleves. It's nobody else's fault. It's Islam's fault for being an evil, barbaric, bloodthirsty, brutal, medieval cult.
 
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Ex-Brampton soccer club prez killed in Scotland crash
By Jenny Yuen, Toronto Sun
First posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:35 AM EST | Updated: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 09:42 PM EST
Jack Sweeney was known as a man with a big heart who “never got over his homesickness” after moving from Scotland to Canada.
The former president of the Bramalea Celtic Football Club was killed Monday — along with his wife Lorraine, 69, and their granddaughter, Erin McQuade, 18 — when a driver lost control of his truck and careened into George Square in downtown Glasgow, killing six people.
“He was a quiet man with a small stature,” Thomas Donnelly, who preceded Sweeney as president of the club, said Tuesday. “But (he) had a heart the size of Brampton. Jackie hated snow — if there was an inch of snow, the members of the club would tell him to stay in Bramalea for the weekend.”
Donnelly said Sweeney, 68, lived in Scarborough with his family when they arrived in Canada in the 1990s. He managed the club from 1996 to 1998 and was always focused on charity events.
“As a non-profit organization, we would have to do a lot more for charity, especially for Sick Kids, underprivileged children and mothers,” he said. “He would fight tooth and nail to make sure these profits would go to charity. He had a poor upbringing and he never forgot.”
The Bramalea Celtic Football Club posted a message on its Facebook pageMonday night confirming the deaths.
The three were living northwest of Glasgow in Dumbarton, Scotland.
“It is with great shock and sadness we share with you our friend and past president Jack Sweeney, his wife, Lorraine, and granddaughter, Erin, were victims of (Monday’s) tragedy in Glasgow. Our thoughts and prayers go to the family and friends of the Sweeney family,” the message said.
Donnelly, 68, said Sweeney’s two grown daughters didn’t wish to settle in Canada and wanted to go back home to Scotland. Sweeney was working as a bartender at the time.
“Jack being the family man, decided he would go with them, about 12 or 13 years ago,” he said. “Lorraine was a really nice person, really sweet. My phone hasn’t stopped ringing from all over the world, offering their condolences. They really loved them. The whole of Glasgow is in a very sombre mood.”
McQuade worked at Cameron House Hotel and Resort on Loch Lomond in Scotland.
“Cameron House Hotel and Resort are saddened to hear we have lost one of our brightest and dedicated members of housekeeping staff, Erin McQuade,” said the hotel’s general manager Allan Reich in a statement released Tuesday.
“We want to offer our deepest condolences and sympathies to the family of Erin and to all those who have been affected by the tragic events at George Square yesterday.”
Police have said the driver lost control of the vehicle before careening into George Square, hitting a number of pedestrians. According to British media reports, six people remained in hospital Tuesday.
jenny.yuen@sunmedia.ca
Couple with ties to Brampton among dead in Glasgow crash
December 23, 2014
Media reports say Jack Sweeney, 68, his wife Lorraine, 69, and their 16-year-old granddaughter Erin McQuade were among the dead.
Couple with ties to Brampton among dead in Glasgow crash | CityNews
 

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How's about this for a tragic story just before Christmas?

A woman saw her daughter and parents die in a bin lorry crash which killed six people in Glasgow, it has emerged.

Jacqueline McQuade was shopping with her daughter Erin and parents Jack and Lorraine Sweeney when the council lorry careered along Queen Street.

Before the vehicle eventually crashed in George Square it also killed three other women and left 10 people injured.

A special service will be held in Glasgow later to remember the victims. An appeal fund has also been launched.

Student Erin McQuade, 18, and her grandparents Jack, 68, and Lorraine Sweeney, 69, all from Dumbarton, were among the victims of Monday's crash.

It has emerged that Ms McQuade's mother witnessed the aftermath of the crash after escaping the path of the lorry.

Jacqueline McQuade had reportedly gone to take out money from a cash machine when her daughter and parents were struck.

Primary school teacher Stephenie Tait, 29, from Glasgow, also died as did Gillian Ewing, 52, from Edinburgh, and Jacqueline Morton, 51, of Glasgow.

Of the 10 people who were injured, five people remain in hospital.

Glasgow bin lorry crash: Woman saw daughter and parents die

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Jacqueline McQuade saw her father Jack, mother Lorraine and daughter Erin die in the crash

A woman saw her daughter and parents die in a bin lorry crash which killed six people in Glasgow, it has emerged.

Jacqueline McQuade was shopping with her daughter Erin and parents Jack and Lorraine Sweeney when the council lorry careered along Queen Street.

Before the vehicle eventually crashed in George Square it also killed three other women and left 10 people injured.

A special service will be held in Glasgow later to remember the victims. An appeal fund has also been launched.

Student Erin McQuade, 18, and her grandparents Jack, 68, and Lorraine Sweeney, 69, all from Dumbarton, were among the victims of Monday's crash.

It has emerged that Ms McQuade's mother witnessed the aftermath of the crash after escaping the path of the lorry.


Gillian Ewing and Stephenie Tait were among the six people killed in the crash

Jacqueline McQuade had reportedly gone to take out money from a cash machine when her daughter and parents were struck.

Primary school teacher Stephenie Tait, 29, from Glasgow, also died as did Gillian Ewing, 52, from Edinburgh, and Jacqueline Morton, 51, of Glasgow.

Of the 10 people who were injured, five people remain in hospital.

Casualty conditions

Three patients remain in Glasgow Royal Infirmary. One is a 14-year-old girl who is serious but stable, one is an 18-year-old woman and one is a 64-year-old woman, both of whom are stable.


A 57-year-old man is being treated at the Western Infirmary and is in a stable condition.

A 49-year-old woman, who is being treated at the Southern General Hospital, is stable.

A mass for those affected will be held at St Andrew's Roman Catholic Cathedral at 13:00 GMT.

Tributes have been paid to the victims and Archbishop Philip Tartaglia will lead the mass of remembrance at the cathedral.





The city council has set up a fund for donations. The local authority and the Scottish government have already pledged a total of £60,000.

George Square reopened to the public on Tuesday afternoon and the metal cordons which were put in place following the crash were lifted.

Christmas lights in the area are due to be switched back on but attractions including the ice rink and big wheel will remain closed until noon on Boxing Day as a mark of respect.

'Spirit of Glasgow'

Flowers and candles have been left in George Square and near the Gallery Of Modern Art in Royal Exchange Square where the first pedestrian was struck.

Candles, cards and a poem hailing the "spirit of Glasgow" have also been placed there.

The investigation into the crash is continuing.

It is known that the city council lorry hit the first pedestrian then mounted the pavement and travelled hundreds of metres, hitting several others before crashing into the Millennium Hotel.



Eyewitnesses said the lorry driver had been "slumped over his wheel".

Glasgow City Council confirmed that three employees were in the lorry before the crash.

The council has also opened a book of condolence at the City Chambers, near where the crash happened.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon described Glasgow as a "city with a broken heart".

Commenting on the appeal fund, she said: "It will be available to those who need it most and I would urge people affected to make use of the services available through the fund.

"This week we have, once more, seen how well Glasgow has pulled together to support those in need, which is why it is so heartening to hear that so many donations have already been made to the fund - further evidence of the incredible spirit of the people of Glasgow and of Scotland."

Other politicians have used their Christmas messages to reflect on the bin lorry crash.

Labour's Jim Murphy said: "What has been an extraordinary year for Scotland is ending on a note of great sadness and pain."

Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said: "The events in Glasgow in the last few days remind us to hold our loved ones close this Christmas."

Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie said: "Our thoughts are with those affected by the tragedy in Glasgow. We will stand with them as they deal with their pain and grief in the time ahead."


BBC News - Glasgow bin lorry crash: Woman saw daughter and parents die

For values of the world = Blackleaf's little island.


Never mind my island. It's time to left your Left-wing bubble and start seeing reality for how it actually is. The world doesn't run to a Left-wing narrative. Reality isn't that way.
 

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Life's tough. People die. She needs to get over it.

Never mind my island. It's time to left your Left-wing bubble and start seeing reality for how it actually is. The world doesn't run to a Left-wing narrative. Reality isn't that way.
Sorry, Li'l Englander. Your island isn't the world. There is no significant worry about Muslim radical terrorism in China, South America, or Africa, and not much in Asia east of the Urals. Contrariwise, there is considerable fear of Christians, particularly the U.S./UK/Aussie type, in much of the world.
 

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Sorry, Li'l Englander. Your island isn't the world.

These islands (plural) once RULED the world.


There is no significant worry about Muslim radical terrorism in China, South America, or Africa, and not much in Asia east of the Urals. Contrariwise, there is considerable fear of Christians, particularly the U.S./UK/Aussie type, in much of the world.

The world is facing up to a major problem with Muslim terrorists. It's not Christian terrorists that the world has a major problem with. I've told you to get out of your Left-wing bubble.

ISLAM is the major problem the world faces today. Not Christianity, not Judaism, not Sikhism, not Buddhism, not Jainism.