The suggestion that a sweeping majority of Canadians hate anything to do with the CBC, as some here would seem to imply, is entirely false. The CBC has good viewership, good ratings, and solid programming.
Give your opinion on the CBC
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actually I am pretty sure that 6 O' clock news on CTV and Global has higher viewership than CBC the National. That lockout they had probably cost them a lot of viewers.
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actually I am pretty sure that 6 O' clock news on CTV and Global has higher viewership than CBC the National. That lockout they had probably cost them a lot of viewers.
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when I saw CBC last, well.....and walked past their HQ in toronto, I thought they were a little socialistic really........well they were locked out of their offices and picketing outside lol
when I saw CBC last, well.....and walked past their HQ in toronto, I thought they were a little socialistic really........well they were locked out of their offices and picketing outside lol
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November 19, 2004
The following is CBC Television's Letter to the Editor in response to a recent column by the National Post's John Ivison on the House of Commons debate on the Department of Canadian Heritage.
CBC Television Responds to National Post
Re: John Ivison's column "Keeping the barbarians at bay - and CBC afloat" - National Post, November 18, 2004
Dear Editor,
John Ivison's entertaining article about the House of Commons debate on the Department of Canadian Heritage this week had some fun at the expense of cultural nationalists. That is his schtick and he is good at it.
Along the way, he quotes the old saw about CBC Television having "floundering" ratings and "the hundreds of millions of dollars going into English Language TV." I thought, in the interest of informed debate, I should provide an update on our ratings and correct a misconception about CBC Television's funding.
First let me say that ratings alone are a lousy measure of how well a public broadcaster is fulfilling its mandate. If all we were after was ratings, we'd put on a bunch of US programming like the private networks do and people would quite correctly call for us to be dismantled for using taxpayers dollars to do what the private sector can do better. That is not our role.
Our role is to host the Canadian conversation. To give voice to Canadians in all their diversity, telling our stories, celebrating our heroes and educating our kids through news information and high impact distinctive programming. I hasten to add that private broadcasters do some of this programming as well and, in exchange, they are licensed to build profitable businesses around broadcasting popular, mostly American, programming. But for us it is our raison d'être and the most telling measurement of the success of this kind of programming, whether at CBC or Global, is not necessarily market share. Programming of this kind needs a more flexible instrument.
It is, of course, true that you can not have public broadcasting without the public. If no one was watching there would be no point. On average, 62% of the Canadian anglophone population tunes in to CBC Television each week. CBC Television's share in 2003-2004 was up over the previous year both in all-day viewing and in prime time. So far in 2004-2005, CBC Television's share is again tracking ahead of last year (prime time currently running at 7% share this season versus, for instance, Global TV at 8.7%).
What is more exciting and more important than the increase in viewing of CBC Television is that it is in response to programming that is proudly and quintessentially Canadian. Mr. Ivison points to the fact that CBC Television does not do well on the list of Nielsen list of top 20 programs. In fact, Canadian programs generally do not do well in the overall top 20. Why? One reason is that a big US drama program, like West Wing or ER, will spend between three and five times more to make an hour of programming than it costs to make a top end Canadian show.
What he doesn't perhaps know, is that 12 of the top 20 Canadian drama series and 18 of the top 20 Canadian drama specials in 2003-04 were CBC programs. Given our mandate, that is the list that measures our success.
The other misconception that seems to be abroad is that CBC Television costs the taxpayer a billion dollars. CBC Television is one platform out of 18 that CBC/Radio-Canada, operates. It receives $278 million in funding from the public purse. The rest of its budget is raised through advertising and other sources of funds. Compare this to the approximately US$800 million that US government sources contribute to PBS over and above the money they receive from fundraising drives and other revenue sources.
We, in Canada, need to figure out how to free up more funds for Canadian programming not cut what there is. CBC Television wants to produce Canadian programs that dominate not only the Canadian top 20 but the over all top 20. We will not do that, and nor will CTV or Global, if there is less money in the Canadian broadcasting system.
The ultimate question in all this, however, is whether television is solely entertainment or whether it can serve a public purpose. If it is only amusement and diversion then, as your columnist says, bring on Fear Factor. But if, as some believe, television can play the role in twenty first century Canada that the railroad played in the nineteenth and twentieth century, tying us together against forces of geography and economics, then we should invest in it and make it strong.
Yours sincerely,
Slawko Klymkiw
Executive Director
Network Programming
CBC Television
None of the above ratings information includes the programing in the north in eight first nations languages. Nor does it include the northern home schooling services that we provide through CBC.
November 19, 2004
The following is CBC Television's Letter to the Editor in response to a recent column by the National Post's John Ivison on the House of Commons debate on the Department of Canadian Heritage.
CBC Television Responds to National Post
Re: John Ivison's column "Keeping the barbarians at bay - and CBC afloat" - National Post, November 18, 2004
Dear Editor,
John Ivison's entertaining article about the House of Commons debate on the Department of Canadian Heritage this week had some fun at the expense of cultural nationalists. That is his schtick and he is good at it.
Along the way, he quotes the old saw about CBC Television having "floundering" ratings and "the hundreds of millions of dollars going into English Language TV." I thought, in the interest of informed debate, I should provide an update on our ratings and correct a misconception about CBC Television's funding.
First let me say that ratings alone are a lousy measure of how well a public broadcaster is fulfilling its mandate. If all we were after was ratings, we'd put on a bunch of US programming like the private networks do and people would quite correctly call for us to be dismantled for using taxpayers dollars to do what the private sector can do better. That is not our role.
Our role is to host the Canadian conversation. To give voice to Canadians in all their diversity, telling our stories, celebrating our heroes and educating our kids through news information and high impact distinctive programming. I hasten to add that private broadcasters do some of this programming as well and, in exchange, they are licensed to build profitable businesses around broadcasting popular, mostly American, programming. But for us it is our raison d'être and the most telling measurement of the success of this kind of programming, whether at CBC or Global, is not necessarily market share. Programming of this kind needs a more flexible instrument.
It is, of course, true that you can not have public broadcasting without the public. If no one was watching there would be no point. On average, 62% of the Canadian anglophone population tunes in to CBC Television each week. CBC Television's share in 2003-2004 was up over the previous year both in all-day viewing and in prime time. So far in 2004-2005, CBC Television's share is again tracking ahead of last year (prime time currently running at 7% share this season versus, for instance, Global TV at 8.7%).
What is more exciting and more important than the increase in viewing of CBC Television is that it is in response to programming that is proudly and quintessentially Canadian. Mr. Ivison points to the fact that CBC Television does not do well on the list of Nielsen list of top 20 programs. In fact, Canadian programs generally do not do well in the overall top 20. Why? One reason is that a big US drama program, like West Wing or ER, will spend between three and five times more to make an hour of programming than it costs to make a top end Canadian show.
What he doesn't perhaps know, is that 12 of the top 20 Canadian drama series and 18 of the top 20 Canadian drama specials in 2003-04 were CBC programs. Given our mandate, that is the list that measures our success.
The other misconception that seems to be abroad is that CBC Television costs the taxpayer a billion dollars. CBC Television is one platform out of 18 that CBC/Radio-Canada, operates. It receives $278 million in funding from the public purse. The rest of its budget is raised through advertising and other sources of funds. Compare this to the approximately US$800 million that US government sources contribute to PBS over and above the money they receive from fundraising drives and other revenue sources.
We, in Canada, need to figure out how to free up more funds for Canadian programming not cut what there is. CBC Television wants to produce Canadian programs that dominate not only the Canadian top 20 but the over all top 20. We will not do that, and nor will CTV or Global, if there is less money in the Canadian broadcasting system.
The ultimate question in all this, however, is whether television is solely entertainment or whether it can serve a public purpose. If it is only amusement and diversion then, as your columnist says, bring on Fear Factor. But if, as some believe, television can play the role in twenty first century Canada that the railroad played in the nineteenth and twentieth century, tying us together against forces of geography and economics, then we should invest in it and make it strong.
Yours sincerely,
Slawko Klymkiw
Executive Director
Network Programming
CBC Television
None of the above ratings information includes the programing in the north in eight first nations languages. Nor does it include the northern home schooling services that we provide through CBC.
juan your posting is an opinion, not to mention CBC Television's opinion on the CBC. It is also a letter to the editor, which does not get into numbers, and was written years ago.
Since 2005, CBC TheNational has averaged around 650,000 viewers while CTV and even Global has outdone them.(The article was written 3 months ago).
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20060213_121291_121291
There are the national news numbers, I do not have the numbers for other programs. Although other than Da Vinci and Rick Mercer, I'm not sure propaganda like the Passionate Eye and crap like Antiques Roadshow are pulling in the big audiences.
Since 2005, CBC TheNational has averaged around 650,000 viewers while CTV and even Global has outdone them.(The article was written 3 months ago).
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20060213_121291_121291
There are the national news numbers, I do not have the numbers for other programs. Although other than Da Vinci and Rick Mercer, I'm not sure propaganda like the Passionate Eye and crap like Antiques Roadshow are pulling in the big audiences.
Oh yea, Hockey Night in Canada and their contract with CBC is up in the next few years. I've been hearing rumors that CTV or TSN might get the rights. I think TSN would be a perfect fit for HNIC don't you.
Well, i shouldn't have expected anything else from an Alberta separatist. You have no idea even what the CBC is, for that matter, you don't know what Canada is.
I really hope that Bush realises what a good American you are, because you are not much of a Canadian.
I really hope that Bush realises what a good American you are, because you are not much of a Canadian.
#juan said:
Harsh. :?
I like the CBC. Rick Mercer is the man. The only thing that pisses me off is that one announcer for HNIC. Its the same guy as on NHL06. After playing some fifty games on the Xbox, I never want to hear his voice again.
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I reckon all these BC's are a big world wide TV empire just waiting to throw the world into a second dark age!!!! CBC, ABC, BBC it's gonna happen I tells ye!!!
"THE END IS NIGH!!!!! THE DARK MAN COMMETH, HE HAS NO FACE!!!!!...........but goes by the name *BC!!!!"
LOL
I reckon all these BC's are a big world wide TV empire just waiting to throw the world into a second dark age!!!! CBC, ABC, BBC it's gonna happen I tells ye!!!
"THE END IS NIGH!!!!! THE DARK MAN COMMETH, HE HAS NO FACE!!!!!...........but goes by the name *BC!!!!"
LOL
Neil Macdonald.
About 60% of what I can't stand about the CBC.
I just watched that arsehole do a piece on the news about 5 US soldiers charged with rape and murder of a 14 year old Iraqi girl and her family. These guys are accused of stalking her, kidnaping her and murdering her family, raping her, and then murdering her as well.
A terrible thing, and if found guily, these gentlemen should be executed. Mass murder and rape deserves capital punishment in my view. The executions should be done in public, in Iraq. Justine done, and seen to be done is important.
Now, Dear Mr. Macdonald had to go all self-righteous, pointing out what a murder spree US soldiiers have been on. He used the case in Fallujah, where a US soldier searching a mosque they had attacked was warned "That one's playing dead", whereupon he shot dead an unarmed wounded man.
What Dear Neil forgot to mention was that the soldiers had just been in a fight, and that all the people in the mosque were militants (or had been warned to leave, or be treated as hostiles), that the soldiers did not know the man was unarmed................
This sorta shit happens WAY too often on the CBC> It is leftist propaganda, pure and simple.
I remember, on the day before the election in 2000, a CBC Radio news program quoting Ms Caplin, then Liberal Minister of Immigration....."The Reform Party is the Party of Racists and fascists".......over and over and over and over...........
That was the last straw.....The CBC has Got to GO IMHO.
About 60% of what I can't stand about the CBC.
I just watched that arsehole do a piece on the news about 5 US soldiers charged with rape and murder of a 14 year old Iraqi girl and her family. These guys are accused of stalking her, kidnaping her and murdering her family, raping her, and then murdering her as well.
A terrible thing, and if found guily, these gentlemen should be executed. Mass murder and rape deserves capital punishment in my view. The executions should be done in public, in Iraq. Justine done, and seen to be done is important.
Now, Dear Mr. Macdonald had to go all self-righteous, pointing out what a murder spree US soldiiers have been on. He used the case in Fallujah, where a US soldier searching a mosque they had attacked was warned "That one's playing dead", whereupon he shot dead an unarmed wounded man.
What Dear Neil forgot to mention was that the soldiers had just been in a fight, and that all the people in the mosque were militants (or had been warned to leave, or be treated as hostiles), that the soldiers did not know the man was unarmed................
This sorta shit happens WAY too often on the CBC> It is leftist propaganda, pure and simple.
I remember, on the day before the election in 2000, a CBC Radio news program quoting Ms Caplin, then Liberal Minister of Immigration....."The Reform Party is the Party of Racists and fascists".......over and over and over and over...........
That was the last straw.....The CBC has Got to GO IMHO.