Gilles Duceppe

[Mowich]

Gilles Duceppe has cushiest position of all the leadership candidates – oh to be in his shoes with only a single province to worry about and a steady flow of federal funds till the day he dies or leaves politics. It can’t be that hard to get the required number of voters to keep his party in parliament. After all, the Bloc has done very well by Quebec during their time in power – why not vote for them with that kind of record.

Think of what it would mean if BC had a party in parliament which spoke only to our needs and wants.

I think Gilles smiles so much because his job is so easy. At the same time, I do admire Gilles for his ability to stay on target which is putting Quebec’s interests above everything and anything else. He is superb when it comes to obfuscating to the point where any question put to him can be turned into yet another tirade about Quebec.

"The Bloc leader enters the campaign with a commanding lead in opinion polls, more secure in his position than any of his fellow party leaders. Speaking to a room packed with more than 300 supporters at a nomination meeting in the bedroom-community riding of Marc-Aurèle-Fortin north of Montreal, Mr. Duceppe was clearly enjoying himself as he stretched his speech to 30 minutes. The crowd laughed at his jokes, applauded his attacks and chanted, “We want a country,” when, toward the end, he made his de rigueur appeal for sovereignty."
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/03/28/graeme-hamilton-harper-letter-is-fodder-for-duceppe/

 

[DurkaDurka]

He exists solely to extort more transfer payments from the Fed's, he's a self serving twat, but that's what his party stands for so I guess he's doing a good job.

 

[earth_as_one]

Gilles Duceppes, Elizabeth May and Jack Layton, have far more integrity than Harper of Ignatieff.

Harper is on record supporting an unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Given a chance, I'm sure he'd order Canadian troops to commit war crimes like Bush. Also he supported transparency and Senate reform.... until he got little power. Imagine how it'll go to his head when he gets a majority.

Ignatieff is a political opportunist who wasn't even elected to lead the Liberals.

 

[CDNBear]

Gilles Duceppes, Elizabeth May and Jack Layton, have far more integrity than Harper of Ignatieff.

Ya, the Separatist, the rude hippy and the Commie all make better politicians then the Count and Harpo...

Harper is on record supporting an unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Given a chance, I'm sure he'd order Canadian troops to commit war crimes like Bush.

Love that irrational rhetoric. I bet you have all sorts of proof to back that up eh.

Also he supported transparency and Senate reform.... until he got little power. Imagine how it'll go to his head when he gets a majority.

I'm sure, just like any other politician we've had in the last 60 years.

Ignatieff is a political opportunist who wasn't even elected to lead the Liberals.

Well at least that was lucid.

 

[s_lone]

With the Bloc, Quebecers have found some form of status quo that suits them until Quebec's place within Canada can be settled once and for all. Must I remind you that my province still hasn't signed onto our country's constitution despite the fact that the current provincial government is 100% federalist? If that's not a symbol of a dysfunctional Canadian nation I wonder what is...

It is my understanding that what Quebecers really want is a massively decentralized Canada, or at least one that accepts Quebec's desire to manage its own things. I think the Bloc will be there and strong so long as the structure of Canada doesn't change or until Quebecers have the guts to vote YES in a future referendum, which doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon... at least with the current state of affairs (it wouldn't take much for a new rise of separatism given the right circumstances).

If Quebec is to stay a Canadian province for the rest of our lives, Canada must come to terms with the fact that the province will always be centered on itself so long as a majority of its citizens are predominantly francophone. The language divide is largely responsible for the fact that most Quebecers identify to their province before identifying to Canada.

 

[CDNBear]

With the Bloc, Quebecers have found some form of status quo that suits them until Quebec's place within Canada can be settled once and for all.

That was done on the Plains of Abraham, in 1759.

The Quebeuios are just a little slow on the up take.

 

[DurkaDurka]

It is my understanding that what Quebecers really want is a massively decentralized Canada, or at least one that accepts Quebec's desire to manage its own things. I think the Bloc will be there and strong so long as the structure of Canada doesn't change or until Quebecers have the guts to vote YES in a future referendum, which doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon... at least with the current state of affairs (it wouldn't take much for a new rise of separatism given the right circumstances).

If Quebec is to stay a Canadian province for the rest of our lives, Canada must come to terms with the fact that the province will always be centered on itself so long as a majority of its citizens are predominantly francophone. The language divide is largely responsible for the fact that most Quebecers identify to their province before identifying to Canada.

Would Quebec be satisfied with just the ability to manage its own affairs?

Canada doesn't have to do squat. Why is it you think that we need to appease Quebec on a constant basis?

 

[s_lone]

That was done on the Plains of Abraham, in 1759.

The Quebeuios are just a little slow on the up take.

For a matter that's supposedly settled I sure read a lot of whinin' and bitchin' here at CanCon since I'm here...

 

[mentalfloss]

Gilles Duceppes, Elizabeth May and Jack Layton, have far more integrity than Harper of Ignatieff.

Harper is on record supporting an unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Given a chance, I'm sure he'd order Canadian troops to commit war crimes like Bush. Also he supported transparency and Senate reform.... until he got little power. Imagine how it'll go to his head when he gets a majority.

Ignatieff is a political opportunist who wasn't even elected to lead the Liberals.

Post nails it.

 

[CDNBear]

For a matter that's supposedly settled I sure read a lot of whinin' and bitchin' here at CanCon since I'm here...

I thought it was, when you lost. I guess the Quebecouis didn't get the memo.

Oh, and that whining and crying you hear, isn't us. Ours is drowned out by the collective sobbing of the Quebecuois.

Post nails it.

I love it when people remove their own facades.

 

[s_lone]

Would Quebec be satisfied with just the ability to manage its own affairs?

Canada doesn't have to do squat. Why is it you think that we need to appease Quebec on a constant basis?

I don't think that. It's up to Canada to decide if it wants to appease Quebec or not. In some cases it probably should, in other cases not. But Quebecers don't have a bad deal with the Bloc, why would they stop voting for it?

What I do think is that Canadians should stop believing that one day Quebec will just wake up and feel part of the great big happy Canadian family. If this is to happen, we need to solve the constitutional issue... and getting rid of monarchy would help a lot. Good luck with all of that.

Face it, what we've got in common is Tim Hortons, hockey, cold weather, and a devastatingly strong closeness to US American culture. Other than that, there isn't much. The language divide is at the root of the Quebec ''problem''. So long as Quebecers speak French in majority, they will feel like they are their own nation. This isn't about to change because French is there for at least a good couple decades and probably more if we can get our **** together and improve the education system.

 

[earth_as_one]

If Canada can be divided, so can Quebec. The people who live here should have a choice to stay in Canada:

So should Shawville and Aylmer, West Island Montreal.

Separation would be like divorce. Only the lawyers would win.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Gilles Duceppes, Elizabeth May and Jack Layton, have far more integrity than Harper of Ignatieff.

You crack me up EAO. When your not bashing Israel you can be one funny (whatever you are)

 

[Sparrow]

My happiest day will be when the Bloc doesn't exist anymore, and I live in Quebec.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

My happiest day will be when the Bloc doesn't exist anymore, and I live in Quebec.

That's an Irish dream Lassy.;-)

 

[DurkaDurka]

What I do think is that Canadians should stop believing that one day Quebec will just wake up and feel part of the great big happy Canadian family. If this is to happen, we need to solve the constitutional issue... and getting rid of monarchy would help a lot. Good luck with all of that.

Face it, what we've got in common is Tim Hortons, hockey, cold weather, and a devastatingly strong closeness to US American culture. Other than that, there isn't much. The language divide is at the root of the Quebec ''problem''. So long as Quebecers speak French in majority, they will feel like they are their own nation. This isn't about to change because French is there for at least a good couple decades and probably more if we can get our **** together and improve the education system.

You are under the illusion that Canadian's care about Quebec's historical grievances, we have our own lives to live without worrying if Quebec feels ignored or if it needs more of "our" money to fund your pet projects. Quebec leaving would suit me fine, albeit, after the natives and anglophones carve their chunks out. Like the Supreme Court said, not verbatim but if Canada is divisible, Quebec is divisible.

The language divide would get no better with Quebec being a sovereign nation, you would be a French nation surrounded by Anglophone nations... how does that make your situation better? All these pipe dreams floated by your leaders past and present....

 

[s_lone]

You are under the illusion that Canadian's care about Quebec's historical grievances, we have our own lives to live without worrying if Quebec feels ignored or if it needs more of "our" money to fund your pet projects. Quebec leaving would suit me fine, albeit, after the natives and anglophones carve their chunks out. Like the Supreme Court said, not verbatim but if Canada is divisible, Quebec is divisible.

Oh come on... This isn't about historical grievances. It's about the political situation right now. I agree that if Canada is divisible, so is Quebec. The point here isn't whether or not would be a good or bad thing. It's about coming to terms with Canada's current political situation which is in a certain state of stagnation.

Canadians care as much about Quebec as Quebecers care about Canada. The indifference both goes ways... But it's obvious there's more to it than that. I'm sure you'll agree there is a good dose of emotion in this issue. Think of how the country was just before the 1995 referendum when it was far from clear that Canada as we know it would survive.

The language divide would get no better with Quebec being a sovereign nation, you would be a French nation surrounded by Anglophone nations... how does that make your situation better? All these pipe dreams floated by your leaders past and present....

I don't speak of the language divide as if it was a good thing or a bad thing. It's just a fact of life that we all need to come to terms with. We already are a French speaking nation surrounded by Anglophones. We speak different languages and it follows that communication between the Québecois nation and the rest of Canada isn't very fluid and natural.

 

[petros]

AB and SK are very well catered to by Harper.