Gibson guitar bankruptcy

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Gibson guitars is filing for bankruptcy protection in a deal to try and keep their guitar business going. Incredible that an iconic brand like this could be going down the drain but the fact is they have always been terrible at business. For instance just trying to find out about a Gibson guitar is difficult because their record system is so poor. I have tried a number of times to determine the origins of Gibson flat tops and the best I could do was a two or three year window of when it was made. Top line guitars are generally well-documented, but not Gibson, which is just an indication of their dysfunction.

Gibson's are Gibson's because they have always tried to use the best of materials. That was easy in the old days when there were few makers and many sources. Today getting tone woods is becoming very difficult due to regulations, and also due to the fact that guitar making has entered a Golden Age where there are many fine makers big and small. Taylor being the main one. Taylor has taken over the acoustic market from Martin and Gibson.

I believe Gibson wants to abandon all its many business/brand marketing and retreat to its core business of building fine instruments. I wish them luck. I have an old Gibson at the luthier right now and am hoping to get it back in perfect shape by July. It's a rosewood model which is the very wood is putting Gibson out of business. They need to get in Sappelle and Koa and all the other tonewoods that Taylor is so heavily invested in. Rosewood is pretty much done as a guitar material.
 
DaSleeper

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Just a small part of the article to show that the democrats are one of the reasons behind gibson's problems
Gibson Guitar, the owners who are Republican supporters, were accused of using illegal wood for the guitars and the company was shut down at great loss and its employees lost income. A competing guitar company, who gave money to Democrats, used the same wood as Gibson and had no trouble with the law.
The IRS stopped hundreds of grassroot Republican organizations from participating in the 2012 presidential election. One IRS operative made more than 100 trips to the White House during the brief period before the election and one IRS official took the Fifth Amendment (on the grounds she would incriminate herself). Many of the IRS documents disappeared or so America was told.
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https://www.newsmax.com/johnhavick/...n-hillary-clinton-obama/2018/02/01/id/840912/
 
petros

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Gibson got greedy making "limited editions" and lowering production quality.

That's fine by me. My old ones don't need replacing.
 
Danbones

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That's just the way that I felt when I answered your bullshit.
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I used to work for the top guy at Martin guitars, I can safely say here You are the one full of sh!ple bub, democrats are one of the NASTY things that happened to Gibson...

The democratic judge told them they should move off ashore during the lawsuit.
so take you can take your bag of braindead crap and stuff it up your two bit fakeness a$$.




""We had a raid," he said, "with federal marshals that were armed, that came in, evacuated our factory, shut down production, sent our employees home and confiscated wood."

The raids at two Nashville facilities and one in Memphis recalled a similar raid in Nashville in November 2009, when agents seized a shipment of ebony from Madagascar. They were enforcing the Lacey Act, a century-old endangered species law that was amended in 2008 to include plants as well as animals. But Juszkiewicz says the government won't tell him exactly how — or if — his company has violated that law.

"We're in this really incredible situation. We have been implicated in wrongdoing and we haven't been charged with anything," he says. "Our business has been injured to millions of dollars. And we don't even have a court we can go to and say, 'Look, here's our position.'"

Gibson vigorously denies these allegations, maintaining that all of its purchases from Madagascar have complied with U.S. and Malagasy law. A company attorney says Gibson has presented documents to support that claim and that the recent raid seized legally obtained wood from India. He adds that the company stopped importing wood from Madagascar in 2009
https://www.npr.org/sections/therec...n-guitar-was-raided-by-the-justice-department

they’re taking the position that we should be shifting these jobs overseas,” says Bruce Mitchell, the chief legal counsel for Gibson. “We have – probably 40 people in our factory here just at USA who are doing the inlays into the fingerboard … that are putting the fret on. If all that was to be done over in India, then …. those jobs would be lost.

What’s most puzzling about this case is that India is perfectly happy to ship the fingerboard ‘blanks’ to the United States. In a letter dated July 13, the deputy director general of foreign trade for India confirmed that “fingerboards made of rosewood and ebony is (sic) freely exportable.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/07/does-white-house-want-to-ship-jobs-overseas.html

The top guy at Martin said it had a lot to do with who got supported...By gibson at campaign time, and which artists support gibson and who did NOT support Obama or offshoring... and obamacare...and taking all the guns...and killing free speech...
 
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Danbones said:
I used to work for the top guy at Martin guitars, I can safely say here You are the one full of sh!ple bub, democrats are one of the NASTY things that happened to Gibson...

The democratic judge told them they should move off ashore during the lawsuit.
so take you can take your bag of braindead crap and stuff it up your two bit fakeness a$$.




""We had a raid," he said, "with federal marshals that were armed, that came in, evacuated our factory, shut down production, sent our employees home and confiscated wood."

The raids at two Nashville facilities and one in Memphis recalled a similar raid in Nashville in November 2009, when agents seized a shipment of ebony from Madagascar. They were enforcing the Lacey Act, a century-old endangered species law that was amended in 2008 to include plants as well as animals. But Juszkiewicz says the government won't tell him exactly how — or if — his company has violated that law.

"We're in this really incredible situation. We have been implicated in wrongdoing and we haven't been charged with anything," he says. "Our business has been injured to millions of dollars. And we don't even have a court we can go to and say, 'Look, here's our position.'"

Gibson vigorously denies these allegations, maintaining that all of its purchases from Madagascar have complied with U.S. and Malagasy law. A company attorney says Gibson has presented documents to support that claim and that the recent raid seized legally obtained wood from India. He adds that the company stopped importing wood from Madagascar in 2009
https://www.npr.org/sections/therec...n-guitar-was-raided-by-the-justice-department

they’re taking the position that we should be shifting these jobs overseas,” says Bruce Mitchell, the chief legal counsel for Gibson. “We have – probably 40 people in our factory here just at USA who are doing the inlays into the fingerboard … that are putting the fret on. If all that was to be done over in India, then …. those jobs would be lost.

What’s most puzzling about this case is that India is perfectly happy to ship the fingerboard ‘blanks’ to the United States. In a letter dated July 13, the deputy director general of foreign trade for India confirmed that “fingerboards made of rosewood and ebony is (sic) freely exportable.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/07/does-white-house-want-to-ship-jobs-overseas.html

The top guy at Martin said it had a lot to do with who got supported...By gibson at campaign time, and which artists support gibson and who did NOT support Obama or offshoring... and obamacare...and taking all the guns...and killing free speech...
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Some people "experts in everything" on this forum wouldn't know the difference between a Blueridge and a Martin if it wasn't for the logo

Although The Blueridge sounds almost as good......
 
petros

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They were banking on selling copies of the 62 ES Les Paul for $20K.

62 ain't coming back no matter how hard you wish.
 
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Oh, the KENYAN did it.

Hasn't the possibility come up, yet that Gibson is in trouble because of bad business management or, perhaps, outdated marketing?
 
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have any of you tried to use a guitar speaker as a computer speaker? was the sound quality any good?
 
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