Germany Has Sights on Several Alleged Nazi War Criminals

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Germany Has Sights on Several Alleged Nazi War Criminals

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John Demjanjuk is not an isolated case. German investigators have set their sights on other presumed Nazi war criminals, raising the question of how the law should deal with the aged accessories of the Holocaust.

When he had completed the job, SS Colonel Karl Jäger, filled with pride, wrote in his report to his superiors: "Today, I am proud to report that the objective of solving the Jewish problem for Lithuania has been achieved by Task Force 3. There are no longer any Jews in Lithuania ..."


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War crimes suspect John ("Ivan") Demjanjuk is expected to be extradited from the United States to Germany for trial imminently.


It was Dec. 1, 1941, and German troops had occupied Lithuania, which was part of the Soviet Union, since the summer. According to Colonel Jäger's meticulous account, his subordinates had killed exactly 47,326 men, 55,556 women and 34,464 children.
But Jäger did not claim all the credit for himself and the 120 men he commanded. He was only able to achieve his goal, the ardent Hitler supporter wrote, because one of his subordinates had managed to "secure the cooperation of the Lithuanian partisans."
The "partisans" Jäger referred to were anti-communist militia units that had once fought against the Soviet occupation and had now become the willing helpers of their new, German masters. One such incident of voluntary collaboration took place on August 15 and 16, 1941, in Rokiskis, a town in northeastern Lithuania, where 80 Lithuanians rounded up Jews, brought them to an execution site and helped lock up the victims. Twenty of the Lithuanian volunteers joined Jäger's men in shooting them dead.
Rokiskis was only one of many such places. The Holocaust was a crime ordered and committed by Germans, but without the help of Lithuanians, Latvians, Ukrainians, ethnic Germans living in Eastern Europe (known as "Volksdeutsche") and other Eastern Europeans, the death toll would not have been as high. Historians estimate the number of non-German "killing workers" (a term coined by German writer Ralph Giordano) at about 200,000. There is probably no other group of criminals that has proven more difficult to prosecute than the Nazis' non-German helpers and accomplices. Until today, that is.

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Names rarely appear in archives, and many of the murderers managed to disappear in the confusion of postwar Europe or emigrated abroad. And because they were at the end of the chain of command, they were able to argue more credibly than many former members of the SS that they had no other choice, at least until someone could prove them wrong. Not all non-Germans participated in the Holocaust voluntarily the way Jäger's "partisans" did. Some in the Wehrmacht's POW camps signed up to work for the SS simply because they would otherwise have faced death by starvation.
Under these circumstances, it comes as no surprise that it has taken German prosecutors so long to turn their attention to these suspects. In mid-March, a court in Munich issued a warrant for the arrest of John ("Ivan") Demjanjuk, an 89-year-old Ukrainian-American living in Cleveland, Ohio, who is accused of being an accessory to at least 29,000 murders. Demjanjuk is believed to have worked as a guard at the Sobibor extermination camp. A US court temporarily blocked Demjanjuk's deportation, arguing that he is too frail to travel and stand trial in Germany. But German authorities expect him to be flown to Germany shortly after a US immigration appeals board ruled that he could be deported.
The Central Office for the Prosecution of National Socialist Crimes (ZSTL) in Ludwigsburg, near Stuttgart, already has its sights set on four other men who may have committed murder or been accessories to murder on behalf of the Germans, and who, like Demjanjuk, subsequently emigrated to the United States.


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The Americans recently deported suspect Josias Kumpf to Austria.


A preliminary investigation is now under way against Ivan Kalymon, 87, who lives in Michigan. Kalymon once worked for the Germans in Lemberg, now Lviv, Ukraine, as a member of the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police. In August 1942, he wrote a short-handwritten note to his superiors to report on a mission. The document reads: "I employed my weapon in the line of duty during the 'Jewish Action' on 8/14/1942, at 7 p.m., using four rounds of ammunition, wounding one person and killing another."
It is hard to imagine that this would not suffice as evidence for issuing a German arrest warrant. Kalymon's appeal against the revocation of his US citizenship was denied last fall, and the Americans would be able to place him on a flight to Germany immediately. In the other three cases, German authorities are still at the start of their investigations.
Johann Breyer, 83, was born in Slovakia and lives in Philadelphia today. The son of a Volksdeutsche man and an American woman has admitted that he worked as a guard at the Buchenwald and Auschwitz concentration camps.
A few weeks ago, the Americans deported Josias Kumpf, now 83, to Austria, from where he had emigrated to the United States. Kumpf was present when, in November 1943, the SS shot about 8,000 Jewish inmates in the space of a few days at the Trawniki concentration camp near the southeastern Polish city of Lublin. Kumpf claims, however, that his job was merely to search for survivors in the corpse pits, and that others were responsible for the murders.

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Lithuanian Algimantas Dailide, 87, already lives within the jurisdiction of German courts, namely in Kirchberg, a town in the eastern state of Saxony. During World War II, Dailide, as a member of the Lithuanian secret police, handed over Jews who had attempted to escape from the Vilnius ghetto to the Nazis, and they were subsequently murdered. At the end of the war, Dailide went into hiding in Germany, where he married a woman from the eastern state of Thuringia. In 1950, the couple emigrated to the United States and, like Demjanjuk, settled in Cleveland.
In 2001, faced with the threat of deportation from the United States, Dailide went to Europe voluntarily. A Lithuanian court sentenced him to five years in prison, but suspended his sentence due to his supposedly poor health. Now the Ludwigsburg prosecutors are examine whether they have a case against Dailide.







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#juan

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A man who is eighty seven years old now, was 20 years old in 1943 when the crime was supposed to have occured. Are we supposed to believe that a twenty year old was responsible for Nazi policy.......Hogwash!!!
 

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The Zionists will accept no limitations on prosecution of alledged war crimes against them while simultaneously conducting war crimes on thier nieghbours. The lesser bretheren work tirelessly to obscure the crimes of today with the tales of crimes hidden in the mists of time. That Zionist monster we succor today has an appointment with irony that it will not survive.
 

wulfie68

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Well I don't believe in a "statute of limitations" on murder or rape so if it can be proven that the men in question are guilty of such crimes, then they should be punished. In some ways while it may seem a bit excessive to prosecute an 87 year old man, its like the prosecutions of old men in the US for crimes during the civil rights movement (a la Mississippi Burning): the law has to be upheld regardless of the age/health of the perpetrator and a clear message sent to those who would violate the rights of others.
 

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They are guilty of following orders in a time when it was politically correct to do so - and quite necessary to preserve one's own life. There is no way some eighteen-to-twenty-year-old private soldier or corporal created the situation any more than it was possible for some obscure Jewish tinker to swindle life savings from every German businessman and lunatic who demanded retribution.
 

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A man who is eighty seven years old now, was 20 years old in 1943 when the crime was supposed to have occured. Are we supposed to believe that a twenty year old was responsible for Nazi policy.......Hogwash!!!

I think it's been too long to be still seeking punishment for things that happened 60+ years ago.

I don't think a man's young age gives him the right to commit war crimes even if his superiors set the rules though. Look at the US soldiers convicted of murder and conspiracy in Iraq or those convicted for the abuses at Abu Graib. They're all pretty young. I don't have much sympathy for them though. The older nazi criminals have been pretty lucky to have escaped any punishment for over 6 decades.
 

#juan

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I think it's been too long to be still seeking punishment for things that happened 60+ years ago.

I don't think a man's young age gives him the right to commit war crimes even if his superiors set the rules though. Look at the US soldiers convicted of murder and conspiracy in Iraq or those convicted for the abuses at Abu Graib. They're all pretty young. I don't have much sympathy for them though. The older nazi criminals have been pretty lucky to have escaped any punishment for over 6 decades.

Israel's Crimes Against Humanity against Palestinians
But I want to focus for a moment on Israel's "crime against humanity" against the Palestinian People -- as determined by the U.N. Human Rights Commission itself, set up pursuant to the requirements of the United Nations Charter. What is a "crime against humanity"? This concept goes all the way back to the Nuremberg Charter of 1945 for the trial of the major Nazi war criminals. And in the Nuremberg Charter of 1945, drafted by the United States Government, there was created and inserted a new type of international crime specifically intended to deal with the Nazi persecution of the Jewish People.​
The paradigmatic example of a "crime against humanity" is what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish People. This is where the concept of crime against humanity came from. And this is what the U.N. Human Rights Commission determined that Israel is currently doing to the Palestinian People: Crimes against humanity. Legally, just like what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jews.​
 

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They are guilty of following orders in a time when it was politically correct to do so - and quite necessary to preserve one's own life. There is no way some eighteen-to-twenty-year-old private soldier or corporal created the situation any more than it was possible for some obscure Jewish tinker to swindle life savings from every German businessman and lunatic who demanded retribution.

I don't know a lot of specifics about the cases mentioned so I am talking in hypotheticals here.

If they were non-commissioned or even a junior officer even, I agree that the danger of not following orders would have been extreme. I'm not about to condemn a 20 year old for carrying out an execution when ordered to do so and when failing to carry out those orders would have meant his own death, and I don't think that very many people would, regardless of the whole "following orders is no excuse" spiel that we fixate on, particularly with the Nazis. However that doesn't extend to beating prisoners to death or raping female prisoners: those are still unquestionably crimes and if the accused performed them, they should pay for it. And remember a trial doesn't mean they're guilty, just there is enough evidence to accuse them and to stand up after 65-70 years it better be damned strong and compelling evidence.
 

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'Old and miserable.' Demjanjuk Photo: AFP


The imaginary invalid

Noah Klieger says suspected Nazi war criminal Ivan Demjanjuk is a very talented actor Noah Klieger Published: 04.16.09, 12:03 / Israel Opinion

I would have never believed that one of these days I would be writing something positive about Ivan Demjanjuk, but this day has indeed arrived. To the credit of this Ukrainian SS member, who served at extermination camps in Poland, I must say that he is most certainly a good actor, not to mention his family members.

It is amazing to see how this man, on the advice of his attorneys and relatives, is able time and again to produce episodes that buy him some more time before he will be extradited to Germany and face justice for the crimes he committed against the Jews.


Suspected Nazi guard removed from home on wheelchair (Photo: AP)

Suddenly, we see Ivan sitting in a wheelchair, as if he can no longer walk on his own two feet, while his wife and other family members are standing there and crying in the face of the grave state of the husband, father, and grandfather.

“What do they want from an elderly, invalid, and broken man who is 89-years-old?” they weep over and over again.
By the way, I would like to mention here that back in the trial against Demjanjuk in Israel, that is, about 17-18 years ago, his attorneys claimed that we are dealing with an elderly and sick man. It is odd how this elderly and sick man has been able to stay alive to this day.
And what do they really want from the old and miserable Ivan? They merely want, after years of planned foot-dragging by his people, he will be face justice in Munich over his actions as an SS man in the Sobibor and Trawniki camps, where, we should not, he did not at all show any mercy to the elderly or the disabled.
It is true that today Ivan Demjanjuk is certainly an old man, and it is doubtful whether he will indeed be imprisoned after the court in Munich finds him guilty and hand down some sort of detainment verdict – yet this has no significance whatsoever. The only thing that matters is that he will indeed be found guilty and be punished for his crimes.







 
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