Gay marriage a 'Trojan horse', says Catholic cardinal

WLDB

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Indifferent until your Ox is gored.

That would be harm. And no one has harmed me.

The Church never did that. Secular authorities did impose cruel and indiscrimate persecutions against homosexuals, Jews, Muslims, various 'heretical' groups, pagans and many others who did not submit to the political conventions of the time.

The Papal States were run by the church.

To reduce a society to virtual anarchy is not demonstrable harm? Yeah ok.

Sure, if it did that that would be a sign of harm. It doesnt and hasnt.
 

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Idiot.

Gay marriage a 'Trojan horse', says Catholic cardinal

Gay civil unions and same-sex marriages are a “Trojan horse” that fundamentally weaken the institution of the family, a senior Catholic cardinal has warned, a month after the issue was raised by Pope Francis at a ground-breaking summit in the Vatican.

Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, the head of the Italian Bishops Conference, said that civil unions between gay men and women only serve to “confuse people” and undermine traditional family life, especially if the couples go on to have children, either through adoption or through donor methods.

“It is irresponsible to weaken the family by creating new forms”, the cardinal told a meeting of Italian bishops in the town of Assisi in Umbria on Monday.


Cardinal Bagnasco was a dark horse for elections to the Pontificate in 2013. He stated an intent to 're-write' the documents of Vatican 2, which has produced nothing but confusion and division in the Church, in complete consistency and integrity to the traditions of the Church. He would also re-establish the Latin sacraments to their proper place at the centre of the Catholic liturgical life.

This would put an end to the a persistant insurgency of 'The Spirit of Vatican 2', which strived to interpret it as a revolutionary turn in direction, obstensibly to re-conform it to a primitive, pre-conciliar Church.. but really to capitulate to the modern, post structural West. That has gone on for 50 years, and now seems to have a champion in Francis.

Bagnasco might be back, or someone like him.. sooner rather than later.
 
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I think what he means is by saying "virtual" anarchy is "not actually" anarchy, as in the sense that "virtual" means not real and so imaginary anarchy crazy bigots dream about.
 

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I think what he means is by saying "virtual" anarchy is "not actually" anarchy, as in the sense that "virtual" means not real and so imaginary anarchy crazy bigots dream about.

Maybe he means that he's so terrified of gays that he stays in his house playing videogames where there's anarchy. That'd be "virtual anarchy."