Galloway hits Bulls Eye again

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Make a stupid comment, you get a stupid answer.

Thanks for admitting to making a stupid comment. However, I dispute your analysis of the reply.

Of course you do, it's better you stay in your box thinking you're being governed by the likes of Hitler. Like I said, stupidity reigns supreme.

OFF TOPIC (for the record: this is a debate/discussion board..........not some stupid IQ test - Sorry you feel so "sensitive" about the criticism of your leader. Y'all had your chance to change things.......but obviously chose not to and keep this insanity in longer. (either that , or the election was rigged (which many suspect anyhow.). --- as the idea of integrity , ethics, is just an idle idea /concept ,fantasying the current USG . There is no new low as to how far down they will go. sadly , y'all will have to deal with this for some time to come. That is the reality. Galloway is but one person , that is sick and tired of your (USG)damned lies, manipulations and self centred-ness (narcissism). If it walks like a "hitler" , talks like a "hitler" .......the odds favor that it is a "hitler clone."

Sorry , that the rights are being eroded to the point that a population is afraid to speak against it's leadership. ( on some stupid basis that it is "war time ". If ever the time was to question, it is during war. Has nothing to do with supporting the troops either. Logic and reason is another casualty too.

On the plus side.......the world has Galloway who refreshingly calls it , what it is, minces no words and delivers this with a delightful Scots accent. (that takes the sting out of his words :wink:
 

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Even a decorated and patriotic Marine says it!








True American Patriot
by Ken O'Keefe

It is inevitable that simple minds will accuse me of anti-Americanism and to this I have a few words.

First of all: I have studied, defended and fought for the "inalienable rights" within the U.S. Constitution more than 99.9% of so-called "patriots" who would call me "anti-American," "hateful," a "traitor," etc.

Second: I have "served" as a United States Marine (yes I was an idiot) and "honorably" earned a "Unit Combat Action Award" (2cd Battalion Fourth Marines - Camp Lejeune 1989-1992) for "service" in the original Gulf Slaughter in 1991 which combined with the first fact assuredly means that by my American flag wavers own definition I am a full fledged American Patriot.

Third: The un-elected de facto U.S. President (dictator) was a first class deserter during the Vietnam War. Those who might fall under this "Commander and Chief's" chain of command might want to ask themselves what would happen to them if right now during this so-called "War on Terror" they just stopped showing up for duty; for a year or more?

58,000 American's serverd and died in Vietnam; Bush took a holiday. Think about it.

The fact is that Bush is a hypocritical coward who is happily sending America's sons and daughters to kill (murder) or be killed for unlawful wars of greed and power that he himself would never have the balls to participate in.

Fourth: The so-called "Patriot Act" & "Homeland Security Act" & soon "Patriot Act II" are traitorous mortal blows to the United States Constitution; accordingly, Bush and his cronies must be lawfully tried as traitors in accordance with due process of Constitutional Law.

Fifth: By virtue of George Bush's criminal negligence and/or active complicity on 9-11; specifically his charge over the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and U.S. Military and their seriously unexplained defiance of Standard Operating Procedures that clearly dictate fighter jet intercept for passenger jet scenarios such as 9-11 dictate that he be a legitimate suspect for the charge of Treason. At the very least he must be impeached for gross incompetence.

Sixth: Thanks to dictator Bush there is still no legitimate independent investigation into 9-11 more than two years after America's worst security breach. Why the fuck not? (rhetorical question)

Seventh: Blindly accepting the ridiculous status quo explanation of 9-11 and worse yet using this as justification to launch unending war on the entire planet is beyond stupid, it begs comparisons to the "decent Germans" of pre-World War II Nazi Germany.




Eighth: Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather financed Hitler's Nazi war machine before, during and after America's entrance into World War II and was only stopped by an act of Congress. I see no significant difference between "Dubya" and his grandfather who was without question an un prosecuted American Traitor who (also) gave 'Aid and Comfort' to American 'Enemies.'

The United States Constitution - Article III Section 3 - Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Ninth: America's legacy for the 20th & 21st Centuries according to the legal definition of the word, is that of the single greatest terrorist.

Tenth: U.S. Federal Income Tax dollars are the single greatest source of funding for America's shameful legacy.

Eleventh: By the legal definition of the word, citizenship is allegiance and no True American Patriot could possibly defend allegiance to the United States Government in it's current state.

The American people who are not completely off their head stupid know some if not all of these grave realities and are working to remedy this situation. A situation that threatens to destroy all that makes America beautiful, potentially plunge the world into World War III, and likely incite nuclear annihilation.

The fact is I love America; as I do our irreplaceable Planet. So to my lost brothers and sisters of false American "Patriotism"; I present the above facts for your pondering. I say to you; Stop Waving that Fucking Flag and read your Constitution!; it is one of the very best things you have. Than read the Patriot Act; one of the very worst. When you do we will understand each other.

The time for action is now; future generations will not have the luxury of our "prosperity" induced state of denial. And if we were to fail our children, than we are all genuinely collective traitors to humanity as well. Patriotism must become synonymous with Humanity; Let the True American Patriots Rise!



As an ex-Marine who has visited American troops and Iraqi people in Iraq both pre and post invasion, I call on all True American Patriots to SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS FOR REAL; BRING THEM HOME NOW! - Ken O'Keefe



US & Germany: The parallels are striking

by Mike - FreeQuark@aol.com

What worries me is that we are imaging pre WWII Germany. The parallels are striking....

lack of real political opposition (weak Weimar government--weak Democratic Party)
consolidation of massive amounts of power without a clear mandate from the people (1932 election - 2000 election)
usurpation of leftist terminology to further a RW agenda (national socialism - compassionate conservatism)
the use of propaganda (Goebbels - Rove, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, FoxNews, CNN)
hatred of the French
an appeasing British Prime Minister (Chamberlain - Blair)
contempt for the international community (Hitler ignores the Treaty of Versailles - Bush ignores the ABM treaty and U.N. treaties on global warming, the international criminal court, landmines, chemical and biological weapons)
hatred directed at leftists and other groups in opposition to the government (communists - war protesters)
hatred directed at minority groups (Jews - Arabs)
weapons of mass destruction cited as a reason to invade other countries (Hitler claims that Poland could use poison gas against Germany - Bush claims Saddam Hussein could use poison gas against the U.S.)
a terrorist attack on the country as the final catalyst for fascism (Reichstag fire - 9/11 attacks)
the merging of big business with government (Krupps - Halliburton)
extreme nationalism (Nazi flags everywhere - American flags everywhere)
a culture that emphasizes the physical over the intellectual (Aryan *supermen* - American redneckism)
leader worship (Hitler as Der Fuhrer - Bush as God's child)
the creation of an internal security department (Gestapo - Department of Homeland Security)
massive build-up of military and police forces (paramilitary SS dressed in black - paramilitary cops dressed in black)
the use *lightning* warfare (blitzkrieg - shock and awe)
easy military victories setting the stage for other conquests (Sudentenland - Poland and France, Iraq - Syria and Iran)
eventual disastrous conflict with the Russians (WWII - Armageddon?)
The only real difference is that this time Jews are on the side of the fascists, and of course this crossover of Jews is the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party. There is no way Democrats can mount an effective opposition to Republican imperialism without taking on the Jewish neo-cons and the fascist Sharon government, and there is no way they're going to do that and risk alienating Jewish voters. In the end, whatever disasters may befall this country, it will be because the Democratic Party placed the feelings of 2% of American voters over the best interests of the U.S.
 

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If it walks like a "hitler" , talks like a "hitler" .......the odds favor that it is a "hitler clone."



Sure it does, especially when you present a liberal, conservative, and a decorated Marine as sources to prove the point! :D
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
OFF TOPIC (for the record: this is a debate/discussion board..........not some stupid IQ test - Sorry you feel so "sensitive" about the criticism of your leader. Y'all had your chance to change things.......but obviously chose not to and keep this insanity in longer. (either that , or the election was rigged (which many suspect anyhow.). --- as the idea of integrity , ethics, is just an idle idea /concept ,fantasying the current USG . There is no new low as to how far down they will go. sadly , y'all will have to deal with this for some time to come. That is the reality. Galloway is but one person , that is sick and tired of your (USG)damned lies, manipulations and self centred-ness (narcissism). If it walks like a "hitler" , talks like a "hitler" .......the odds favor that it is a "hitler clone."

Sorry , that the rights are being eroded to the point that a population is afraid to speak against it's leadership. ( on some stupid basis that it is "war time ". If ever the time was to question, it is during war. Has nothing to do with supporting the troops either. Logic and reason is another casualty too.

On the plus side.......the world has Galloway who refreshingly calls it , what it is, minces no words and delivers this with a delightful Scots accent. (that takes the sting out of his words :wink:

Pardon me but last time I checked you weren't a moderator, if I am OFF TOPIC, let a moderator tell me so.

As for the population being afraid to speak, I think you have completely lost all sense of reality since most of your weblinks are based in the US and sponsored by Americans. And last I checked we still have freedom of speech, but if it gets you through the day believing otherwise, thats your business.
 

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On the plus side.......the world has Galloway who refreshingly calls it , what it is, minces no words and delivers this with a delightful Scots accent.


That's the type of refreshing honety that we need in the USA today.


GALLOWAY FOR PRESIDENT!!!
 

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Don't worry ITN...they are just blow'n steam.

If Bush was Hitler, he would have taken Canada and Mexico, and be well onto his way to Argentina by now.
 

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As for the population being afraid to speak, I think you have completely lost all sense of reality since most of your weblinks are based in the US and sponsored by Americans.


please make your point without "attacking" the poster . Calls for re-phrasing . Thanks. :)
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
As for the population being afraid to speak, I think you have completely lost all sense of reality since most of your weblinks are based in the US and sponsored by Americans.


please make your point without "attacking" the poster . Calls for re-phrasing . Thanks. :)

OK, I'll re-phrase it. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Thanks.
 

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Jay said:
Don't worry ITN...they are just blow'n steam.

If Bush was Hitler, he would have taken Canada and Mexico, and be well onto his way to Argentina by now.

Sorry , but that is really missing the point of the analogy. Who said anything about Bush copying Hitler's methods and strategies?? Who said that Bush would resort to the tactics that Hitler did many years ago now??? Maybe the question is: What would hitler be doing Today , with todays technology etc??? But personality types , the need to control. and lust for more power and the many irrational remarks are definately pararrels . The lack of humane sincerety , regrets , and failure to acknowledge mistakes made (or believing he made NO mistakes) are characteristics they both share. Bush is just as paranoid, as hitler was .........but has created a situation that warrants some serious "paranoia" ( in a way "hitler" did the same)
 

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Argentina?

Hell, imperialistic Bush has taken Afghanistan, Iraq, and is threathening Iran and North Korea. Geographically, that exceeds the span from here to Argentina.


IMPEACH BUSH!
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
Sorry , but that is really missing the point of the analogy. Who said anything about Bush copying Hitler's methods and strategies?? Who said that Bush would resort to the tactics that Hitler did many years ago now??? Maybe the question is: What would hitler be doing Today , with todays technology etc??? But personality types , the need to control. and lust for more power and the many irrational remarks are definately pararrels . The lack of humane sincerety , regrets , and failure to acknowledge mistakes made (or believing he made NO mistakes) are characteristics they both share. Bush is just as paranoid, as hitler was .........but has created a situation that warrants some serious "paranoia" ( in a way "hitler" did the same)

I would imagine he would outlaw firearms (as he did).
Most likely instead of shooting homosexuals he would burn them with some EM gun.
Probably just burn Jews, Gypsies alive, and maybe not make soap out of them.
Declare martial law.
Not allow anyone to live in the country other than the German "race"
Not permit immigrants of color in the country

You know, all these things Bush is currently doing. :roll:
 

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"outlaw firearms"

~~ Bush did so in Iraq

"shoot homosexuals"

~~ ironically Bush uses them such as Mehlman, Drier, and Carlson

"burn Jews, Gypsies"

~~ Bush's criminal war is taking a FAR larger toll on minorities and there are no wealthy whites getting killed there

"declare martial law"

~~ the Patriot [sic] Act is just about there

"not allow anyone - immigrants of color"

~~ while Mexicans and other dark skinned peoples are being excluded, Russians, Israelis, and East Europeans continue to flow into NYC every day
 

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I would imagine he would outlaw firearms (as he did).
Most likely instead of shooting homosexuals he would burn them with some EM gun.
Probably just burn Jews, Gypsies alive, and maybe not make soap out of them.
Declare martial law.
Not allow anyone to live in the country other than the German "race"
Not permit immigrants of color in the country

You know, all these things Bush is currently doing.


that is assuming that hitler stayed in the era he operated . If one were to place him ......with all the added technology, knowledge etc...... but retain his personality , his ambitions etc....don't think that would fly. But then , what does anyone know about what goes on in the US "secret prisons"??? We do know what has been made public. But heck .......out of sight??? the sky is the limit. and anything is possible. The degree of secrecy that has shrouded the bush G. is another parrallel. Of course in the current era ......."security" , and "terrorism" make for an excellent fear tactic to do what they want . It also spreads like a malignancy........mostly behind the scenes , and on the QT.



Meanwhile.......those terrorists, and terrorist wannabe types are getting more sophisticated , and at least several steps ahead of the bush go. But then bush actually "needs" this terrorist issue as it provides the platform to carry out other agendas he came into office with. Bush could care less about the victims of 9-11 as to him that was an opening. an opportunity. He could care less about the troops that have dies or been maimed due to his war ambitions. THAT is perhaps the most significant parrallel between the original hitler and the new version. Neither is humaine or humanitarian oriented . Narcissim is the key factor in both their personalities.

Others see this quite differently. Fair enough. Diversity of views are the joys of a forum. :wink:

(just some observations and thoughts)
 

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security" , and "terrorism" make for an excellent fear tactic to do what they want . It also spreads like a malignancy


Note how frequently Hitlerian Bush used 9/11 in his justification speeches for his criminal war in Iraq. Even though his own 9/11 Commission clearly and unequivocally stated that there is no parallel between the two.
 

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gopher said:
security" , and "terrorism" make for an excellent fear tactic to do what they want . It also spreads like a malignancy


Note how frequently Hitlerian Bush used 9/11 in his justification speeches for his criminal war in Iraq. Even though his own 9/11 Commission clearly and unequivocally stated that there is no parallel between the two.

exactly!! It is almost like he is operating from a completely different universe . Presenting him with facts , does not change one thing. .........he just builds on the original lies . or reconfigures them to fit HIS current ideology. Consistency is not a strong suit with the man. Just follow his LIES trail........and anyone can see that.
 

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gopher said:
"outlaw firearms"

~~ Bush did so in Iraq

"shoot homosexuals"

~~ ironically Bush uses them such as Mehlman, Drier, and Carlson

"burn Jews, Gypsies"

~~ Bush's criminal war is taking a FAR larger toll on minorities and there are no wealthy whites getting killed there

"declare martial law"

~~ the Patriot [sic] Act is just about there

"not allow anyone - immigrants of color"

~~ while Mexicans and other dark skinned peoples are being excluded, Russians, Israelis, and East Europeans continue to flow into NYC every day

Yeah, you shut me up real good gopher :roll: