Ft. Hood Was Not Terrorism

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There is no universally accepted definition of terrorism and even when people agree on a definition of terrorism, they sometimes disagree about whether or not the definition fits a particular incident. In order to understand terrorism, one must assess the different views of what exactly constitutes terrorism. Reaching a general conclusion on the definition of terrorism has generated much debate in the social sciences and internationally. No single definition seems to satisfy the wide interpretation of what specifically is terrorism. Since September 11th a large coalition has been formed to combat Terrorism. In order for this coalition to work there will have to be a universally excepted definition in order for the coalition to form plans and act. J.R's GLobal Security Resource uses the definition set forth by the U.S Federal Bureau of Investigation:
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]--FBI Definition [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the use or threatened use of force designed to bring about political change.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]-Brian Jenkins [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the unlawful use or threat of violence against persons or property to further political or social objectives. It is usually intended to intimidate or coerce a government, individuals or groups, or to modify their behavior or politics.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]-Vice-President's Task Force, 1986[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Terrorism consitutes the illegitimate use of force to achieve a political objective when innocent people are targeted.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]-Walter Laqueur[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the premeditated, deliberate, systematic murder, mayhem, and threatening of the innocent to create fear and intimidation in order to gain a political or tactical advantage, usually to influence an audience.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]-James M. Poland[/SIZE][/FONT]
 

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Let's see, he was a devout muslam living in a nearly bare appartment known by people he worked with to make anti american comments. He had a card in his wallet linking him with a terrorist organization, he had been in contact with a terrorist in the middle east urging him on. He had a weapon and he shot what about 30 unarmed American Soilders on a military base. Oh yeah - work place violence, just another "man caused disaster" as some lesbian stated - right as Doc Savage would state.

Conservative Christian. If I see a blue helmet coming down my street to enforce the law, he may be a christian but he will be a dead one!
Socialism and world government are anti Christian. I am not a mindless passifist. I believe a 30-06 with a site has a range of 400 yards. I am an oathkeeper. Fighting for freedom is not inconsistent with my beliefs, if it were we would be under Nazi control today. We would still be a British colony. etc...

General George S Patton was a devout Christian.

[SIZE=+2]The Speech[/SIZE]




[SIZE=+1]Somewhere in England[/SIZE]




[SIZE=+1]June 5th, 1944[/SIZE]


The big camp buzzed with a tension. For hundreds of eager rookies, newly arrived from the states, it was a great day in their lives. This day marked their first taste of the "real thing". Now they were not merely puppets in brown uniforms. They were not going through the motions of soldiering with three thousand miles of ocean between them and English soil. They were actually in the heart of England itself. They were waiting for the arrival of that legendary figure, Lieutenant General George S. Patton, Jr. Old "Blood and Guts" himself, about whom many a colorful chapter would be written for the school boys of tomorrow. Patton of the brisk, purposeful stride. Patton of the harsh, compelling voice, the lurid vocabulary, the grim and indomitable spirit that carried him and his Army to glory in Africa and Sicily. They called him "America's Fightingest General". He was no desk commando. He was the man who was sent for when the going got rough and a fighter was needed. He was the most hated and feared American of all on the part of the German Army.

Patton was coming and the stage was being set. He would address a move which might have a far reaching effect on the global war that, at the moment, was a TOP-SECRET in the files in Washington, D.C.

The men saw the camp turn out "en masse" for the first time and in full uniform, too. Today their marching was not lackadaisical. It was serious and the men felt the difference. From the lieutenants in charge of the companies on down in rank they felt the difference.

In long columns they marched down the hill from the barracks. They counted cadence while marching. They turned off to the left, up the rise and so on down into the roped off field where the General was to speak. Gold braid and stripes were everywhere. Soon, company by company, the hillside was a solid mass of brown. It was a beautiful fresh English morning. The tall trees lined the road and swayed gently in the breeze. Across the field, a British farmer calmly tilled his soil. High upon a nearby hill a group of British soldiers huddled together, waiting for the coming of the General. Military Police were everywhere wearing their white leggings, belts, and helmets. They were brisk and grim. The twittering of the birds in the trees could be heard above the dull murmur of the crowd and soft, white clouds floated lazily overhead as the men settled themselves and lit cigarettes.

On the special platform near the speakers stand, Colonels and Majors were a dime a dozen. Behind the platform stood General Patton's "Guard of Honor"; all specially chosen men. At their right was a band playing rousing marches while the crowd waited and on the platform a nervous sergeant repeatedly tested the loudspeaker. The moment grew near and the necks began to crane to view the tiny winding road that led to Stourport-on-Severn. A captain stepped to the microphone. "When the General arrives," he said sonorously, "the band will play the Generals March and you will all stand at attention."

By now the rumor had gotten around that Lieutenant General Simpson, Commanding General of the Fourth Army, was to be with General Patton. The men stirred expectantly. Two of the big boys in one day!

At last, the long black car, shining resplendently in the bright sun, roared up the road, preceded by a jeep full of Military Police. A dead hush fell over the hillside. There he was! Impeccably dressed. With knee high, brown, gleaming boots, shiny helmet, and his Colt .45 Peacemaker swinging in its holster on his right side.

Patton strode down the incline and then straight to the stiff backed "Guard of Honor". He looked them up and down. He peered intently into their faces and surveyed their backs. He moved through the ranks of the statuesque band like an avenging wraith and, apparently satisfied, mounted the platform with Lieutenant General Simpson and Major General Cook, the Corps Commander, at his side.

Major General Cook then introduced Lieutenant General Simpson, whose Army was still in America, preparing for their part in the war.

"We are here", said General Simpson, "to listen to the words of a great man. A man who will lead you all into whatever you may face with heroism, ability, and foresight. A man who has proven himself amid shot and shell. My greatest hope is that some day soon, I will have my own Army fighting with his, side by side."

General Patton arose and strode swiftly to the microphone. The men snapped to their feet and stood silently. Patton surveyed the sea of brown with a grim look. "Be seated", he said. The words were not a request, but a command. The General's voice rose high and clear.

"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bull****. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."

The General paused and looked over the crowd. "You are not all going to die," he said slowly. "Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen."

"All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chicken **** drilling". That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don't give a **** for a man who's not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready for what's to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of ****!" The men roared in agreement.

Patton's grim expression did not change. "There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily", he roared into the microphone, "All because one man went to sleep on the job". He paused and the men grew silent. "But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did". The General clutched the microphone tightly, his jaw out-thrust, and he continued, "An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse ****. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about ****ing!"

The men slapped their legs and rolled in glee. This was Patton as the men had imagined him to be, and in rare form, too. He hadn't let them down. He was all that he was cracked up to be, and more. He had IT!

"We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world", Patton bellowed. He lowered his head and shook it pensively. Suddenly he snapped erect, faced the men belligerently and thundered, "Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against. By God, I do". The men clapped and howled delightedly. There would be many a barracks tale about the "Old Man's" choice phrases. They would become part and parcel of Third Army's history and they would become the bible of their slang.

"My men don't surrender", Patton continued, "I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That's not just bull **** either. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!"

Patton stopped and the crowd waited. He continued more quietly, "All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands". But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war. The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the 'G.I. ****s'."

Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, "Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the road to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable."

The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the leaves of the bordering trees and the busy chirping of the birds in the branches of the trees at the General's left.

"Don't forget," Patton barked, "you men don't know that I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army. I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, 'Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-****ing-bitch Patton'."

"We want to get the hell over there", Patton continued, "The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit."

The men roared approval and cheered delightedly. This statement had real significance behind it. Much more than met the eye and the men instinctively sensed the fact. They knew that they themselves were going to play a very great part in the making of world history. They were being told as much right now. Deep sincerity and seriousness lay behind the General's colorful words. The men knew and understood it. They loved the way he put it, too, as only he could.

Patton continued quietly, "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"

"When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-****ing-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"

"I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living **** out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like **** through a tin horn!"

"From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that."

The General paused. His eagle like eyes swept over the hillside. He said with pride, "There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled **** in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"
 

karrie

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There is no universally accepted definition of terrorism and even when people agree on a definition of terrorism, they sometimes disagree about whether or not the definition fits a particular incident. In order to understand terrorism, one must assess the different views of what exactly constitutes terrorism. Reaching a general conclusion on the definition of terrorism has generated much debate in the social sciences and internationally. No single definition seems to satisfy the wide interpretation of what specifically is terrorism. Since September 11th a large coalition has been formed to combat Terrorism. In order for this coalition to work there will have to be a universally excepted definition in order for the coalition to form plans and act. J.R's GLobal Security Resource uses the definition set forth by the U.S Federal Bureau of Investigation:
[SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]--FBI Definition [/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the use or threatened use of force designed to bring about political change.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]-Brian Jenkins [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the unlawful use or threat of violence against persons or property to further political or social objectives. It is usually intended to intimidate or coerce a government, individuals or groups, or to modify their behavior or politics.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]-Vice-President's Task Force, 1986[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Terrorism consitutes the illegitimate use of force to achieve a political objective when innocent people are targeted.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]-Walter Laqueur[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Terrorism is the premeditated, deliberate, systematic murder, mayhem, and threatening of the innocent to create fear and intimidation in order to gain a political or tactical advantage, usually to influence an audience.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]-James M. Poland[/SIZE]

so, is it simply his cry to his god that qualifies him in your mind, or is there more?
 

karrie

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How about the fact that he was in email contact with terrorists overseas....and his cry was the battle cry of terrorists?
Or do you favour only the US administration's view of what constitutes terrorism?
around the 25 sec. count


FInally! This is what I've been ASKING.... if there was more than that. I never said 'I think it was ______'. I simply said that if that cry was all there was then the gov might have a point, BUT, if you read my first post, I also criticized the gov in the following paragraph. But, apparently you guys have too heavy an investment for anyone to walk into your thread and ask questions and find out what your reasons for thinking what you do are. Instead, you guys just all want to tell me what I think because I've asked questions.
 

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FInally! This is what I've been ASKING.... if there was more than that. I never said 'I think it was ______'. I simply said that if that cry was all there was then the gov might have a point, BUT, if you read my first post, I also criticized the gov in the following paragraph. But, apparently you guys have too heavy an investment for anyone to walk into your thread and ask questions and find out what your reasons for thinking what you do are. Instead, you guys just all want to tell me what I think because I've asked questions.

- If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, its a duck (unless Dear Leader Obama decides that this would weaken his pitch that terrorism was overblown and anyway is now as dead as bin Laden, in which case it is not a duck but rather a Radio City Rockette).

- If you take the trouble to google the relevant information on this troubled major who clearly had evolved his twisted thinklng over time to an Islamist extremism that was obvious to some of his fellow officers who were too cowed by the Obama docterine of political correctness and terrorism being slain by Dear Leader to speak up before it was too late, you will quickly and readily realize that this nutcase was indeed an Islamic extremist who wished to kill as many American infidels as possible on the road to Heaven and the 72 (more or less) virgins who awaited him. Obama for his own political propoganda purposes is lying to the American people just as he has lied about the Libya terrorsist attack, his `success`in Iraq and in Afghansitan and about so many other things concerning the Islamist threat to the West..
 

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- If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, its a duck (unless Dear Leader Obama decides that this would weaken his pitch that terrorism was overblown and anyway is now as dead as bin Laden, in which case it is not a duck but rather a Radio City Rockette).

- If you take the trouble to google the relevant information on this troubled major who clearly had evolved his twisted thinklng over time to an Islamist extremism that was obvious to some of his fellow officers who were too cowed by the Obama docterine of political correctness and terrorism being slain by Dear Leader to speak up before it was too late, you will quickly and readily realize that this nutcase was indeed an Islamic extremist who wished to kill as many American infidels as possible on the road to Heaven and the 72 (more or less) virgins who awaited him. Obama for his own political propoganda purposes is lying to the American people just as he has lied about the Libya terrorsist attack, his `success`in Iraq and in Afghansitan and about so many other things concerning the Islamist threat to the West..

Hopefully we in the US will kick these communist bastards out of our White House and take the senate as well. If not the Red states will force the Blue states to seceed! Then buy them back for pennies on the dollar when they are more broke than Greece is now!
 

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Hopefully we in the US will kick these communist bastards out of our White House and take the senate as well. If not the Red states will force the Blue states to seceed! Then buy them back for pennies on the dollar when they are more broke than Greece is now!

You are truly wacked.
 

Peaches

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It's the lengths that the Obama administration goes to to placate the Islamic countries..
First the apology tour, then, what did Napolitano call the underwear bomber? man made disaster?
Then the embassy attacks were a two bit filmmaker's fault? etc. etc. .......

Let's take the blinders off folks...

yeah, guess it was when he got caught he XXXXed in his underwear bomb!

You are truly wacked.

Yeah tore up my rotator cuff pretty good when I fell off the dock, someone had recently caught a 3.5' shark off my dock with a hunk of ladyfish - teeth and all, the 3' black tip got away - instead of walking to the shore like I have done several times before I decided I wasn't going to do that this time and pulled my 205# fat ass back on to the dock then rolled over groaning for several minutes - talk about a dumb idea! but the sharks caught were big enough to take out some hunks of my body! Salinity was high and the water was relatively warm. what is that psalm many Christians are praying - you know we are praying for him - oh yeah - Psalm 109: vs 7-10. We are to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Obama is a traitor, and a communist. The scenerio about the US breaking up is not far off it may very well come to pass - I live here and know how much Obama is hated in the Red States.

yeah, guess it was when he got caught he XXXXed in his underwear bomb!



Yeah tore up my rotator cuff pretty good when I fell off the dock, someone had recently caught a 3.5' shark off my dock with a hunk of ladyfish - teeth and all, the 3' black tip got away - instead of walking to the shore like I have done several times before I decided I wasn't going to do that this time and pulled my 205# fat ass back on to the dock then rolled over groaning for several minutes - talk about a dumb idea! but the sharks caught were big enough to take out some hunks of my body! Salinity was high and the water was relatively warm. what is that psalm many Christians are praying - you know we are praying for him - oh yeah - Psalm 109: vs 8-9. We are to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Obama is a traitor, and a communist. The scenerio about the US breaking up is not far off it may very well come to pass - I live here and know how much Obama is hated in the Red States.

These people have worked on my car cash deal under the table to keep it out of the hands of the socialists. The larger shark was a spinner shark. They cut off the tail and let it bleed out, then cut it into steaks and trimmed off the skin.

You may not have a bible the verses state "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership, May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow." Actually I added vs 9 Kenyan socialist bastard!
 

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yeah, guess it was when he got caught he XXXXed in his underwear bomb!



Yeah tore up my rotator cuff pretty good when I fell off the dock, someone had recently caught a 3.5' shark off my dock with a hunk of ladyfish - teeth and all, the 3' black tip got away - instead of walking to the shore like I have done several times before I decided I wasn't going to do that this time and pulled my 205# fat ass back on to the dock then rolled over groaning for several minutes - talk about a dumb idea! but the sharks caught were big enough to take out some hunks of my body! Salinity was high and the water was relatively warm. what is that psalm many Christians are praying - you know we are praying for him - oh yeah - Psalm 109: vs 7-10. We are to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Obama is a traitor, and a communist. The scenerio about the US breaking up is not far off it may very well come to pass - I live here and know how much Obama is hated in the Red States.



These people have worked on my car cash deal under the table to keep it out of the hands of the socialists. The larger shark was a spinner shark. They cut off the tail and let it bleed out, then cut it into steaks and trimmed off the skin.

You may not have a bible the verses state "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership, May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow." Actually I added vs 9 Kenyan socialist bastard!

Oh no need to worry - I have bible - would it matter if I did not - would I be less of a Christian in your eyes- Appears we have a chasm between us regarding beliefs on the teachings of Jesus.
 

Peaches

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yeah, guess it was when he got caught he XXXXed in his underwear bomb!



Yeah tore up my rotator cuff pretty good when I fell off the dock, someone had recently caught a 3.5' shark off my dock with a hunk of ladyfish - teeth and all, the 3' black tip got away - instead of walking to the shore like I have done several times before I decided I wasn't going to do that this time and pulled my 205# fat ass back on to the dock then rolled over groaning for several minutes - talk about a dumb idea! but the sharks caught were big enough to take out some hunks of my body! Salinity was high and the water was relatively warm. what is that psalm many Christians are praying - you know we are praying for him - oh yeah - Psalm 109: vs 7-10. We are to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Obama is a traitor, and a communist. The scenerio about the US breaking up is not far off it may very well come to pass - I live here and know how much Obama is hated in the Red States.



These people have worked on my car cash deal under the table to keep it out of the hands of the socialists. The larger shark was a spinner shark. They cut off the tail and let it bleed out, then cut it into steaks and trimmed off the skin.

You may not have a bible the verses state "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership, May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow." Actually I added vs 9 Kenyan socialist bastard!

Obama's plan is to bankrupt our country, redistribute our wealth to the third world and then place us by treaty under the authority of the UN. I did not vote for him, shortly after his election he stated the capitalist freemarket system that bult this country does not and has never worked then he started spending trillions of dollars to take us on a path towards socialism. We will end up just like Greece if that happens. With the fiscal cliff, and Obamacare kicking in, and on top of all of that his only plan is to spend us to over 20 trillion in debt all while redistributing the money to his green energy campaign contributors right before they go bankrupt. If he is elected there will be trouble to your south.

Obama's plan is to bankrupt our country, redistribute our wealth to the third world and then place us by treaty under the authority of the UN. I did not vote for him, shortly after his election he stated the capitalist freemarket system that bult this country does not and has never worked then he started spending trillions of dollars to take us on a path towards socialism. We will end up just like Greece if that happens. With the fiscal cliff, and Obamacare kicking in, and on top of all of that his only plan is to spend us to over 20 trillion in debt all while redistributing the money to his green energy campaign contributors right before they go bankrupt. If he is elected there will be trouble to your south.

Peace through strength - If you want peace prepare for war - an old roman proverb. We are facing an islamic caliphate and Russia and China have never truly been our friends.

Wow. For ease of reading a thread, someone's got to go on ignore. Wowzas.

OK, later....
 

DaSleeper

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What the hell have you been smokin'?
 

Locutus

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If an al-Qaeda-inspired gunman screaming “Allahu Akbar” as he guns down 13 American soldiers is not a terrorist attack then what is?


Via Washington Times:
Already facing intense scrutiny for its shifting narrative about the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, the Pentagon now says it will not reclassify the Fort Hood shootings as a terrorist attack over concern about biasing the case against the gunman — an argument that is getting a mixed review from legal experts.


Late Friday, after 160 victims of the Fort Hood shooting called on the Pentagon to label the attack terrorism instead of workplace violence as it has for the past three years, the Department of Defense said it would not reclassify the attack.
In rejecting the victims outcry, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s spokesman cited concern that having the government weigh in could bias the case against Mr. Hasan. Maj. Hasan, 42 is awaiting trial and faces the death penalty if convicted.
When asked how Mr. Panetta plans to respond to the victims, his spokesman took a day and a half to respond, eventually emailing a statement Friday night.


Keep reading…




http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/22/pentagon-declines-to-classify-ft-hood-shootings-as-a-terrorist-attack/

 

Highball

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Good question Locutus. But when the Grand Imam gets into the fray politically even the JAG has to acquiesce. The Liberal-socialists in the White House need those votes to get reelected. Its not about what is right. It is about who gets the power at this point..
 

damngrumpy

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In this case I would agree that it was a terrorist act and not just workplace violence.
Besides where an act like this one cannot pick and chose and start giving things a
different term. I tend to be more left than right but this is pretty clear that it was a
terrorist act and should be treated as such