Freedom Tower Construction Begins

[tracy]

I think it's great they are finally rebuilding. I don't think it's such a bad name either. I do think we can go overboard using the "f" word (like freedom fries ), but who really cares? I laughed when they were talking about the building's height and name on the daily show and said it was a monument to American subtlety, but I think it's kind of sweet in a way Why should Americans try to downplay their freedom fetish?

 

[I think not]

I agree with tracy, why should we downplay our Freedom fetish? And on that note.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

 

[Johnny Utah]

The Freedom Tower
There is nothing wrong with that except to the whiners.

 

[tracy]

ITN, I have to tell you that last week I said something about "your tired and poor..." when talking about myself (it was after a night shift so I was tired, and the extra bills I've had lately have left me temporarily poor) and my friend from Texas had no idea what I was talking about!!! So, this Canadian taught her a little bit about an American monument I feel I've done my part for NYC.

Oh, and I am not wretched refuse though...

 

[I think not]

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Oh, and I am not wretched refuse though...

:lol:

Certainly not with your sense of humor.

 

[Riyko]

Re: RE: Freedom Tower Construction Begins

In my own opinion, the building of the freedom tower is just trying to cover up the whole 9/11 events and also it could be attacked again after it's been built.

How would building the Tower be covering up the 9/11 events?

You would think there would be some kind of Ground to Air Missile Defence System for not only the Freedom Tower as it would make a very tempting target for Terrorists.

It'd be covering it up because people walk past that site and realize how real the attack was and remember what happened and with the new building they'll eventually forget it happened and feel comfortable in the US again.

You'd think so, but it's the US they just sort of hope it'll fade away so they won't have to worry about it again

Also i'd like to know what freedom you guys are talking about that we get in the US?

 

[I think not]

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Also i'd like to know what freedom you guys are talking about that we get in the US?

Maybe you can save us the trouble and tell us which ones you don't get, it will save lots of time.

 

[Riyko]

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Also i'd like to know what freedom you guys are talking about that we get in the US?

Maybe you can save us the trouble and tell us which ones you don't get, it will save lots of time.

It's suppose to be sarcastic, but I know all of the freedoms.

 

[thecdn]

if you hate it so much why dont you leave and go back where you came from?

Where I came from is Calgary. Will you be there to greet me?

Considering the US is still (at this moment anyway), a democracy It is well within my rights to criticize things that I wish to.

My job is here, my kids are in school here, and the wife is the wimpiest Canadian ever and hates the cold. I'll just stay here for awhile. If that's all right with you?

 

[I think not]

To cdn and Daz, I'll repeat, if you want to stop hearing about the Yanks and their "freedom", turn off American television. It's really that simple.

Check out my location - North Lauderdale, FL. So I'm supposed to throw out my tv's and cancel my newspaper so I stop hearing Americans use the word freedom in every sentence?

It seems to disturb you enough to warrant such an action, although you are indeed exaggerating. And you make it sound as if it is some sort of systemic propaganda. The claim isn't without foundation, you seem to be quick on geography but have you spent any time looking into American history?

 

[the caracal kid]

freedom and the US:

indeed there is freedoms in the US, and naming this tower the freedom tower is a reflection of its dual insidiousness.

america has the freedom of those with power to maintain power, the freedom of those with power to rape, pillage, and plundar, the freedom of the elite to keep the masses ignorant, the freedom to kill thousands of people to serve their own needs abroad, the freedom to assassinate their own citizens. While this goes on, ignored by the populace, they can idealize their supposed freedom within america. The quote in my signature sums up the american masses quite well.

 

[jimmoyer]

Caracal Kid, you live in a comfy glass house, your
passivity an abomination to those who would need
your support, such as in Dafur, or in each broken
Yugoslavian republic that needed action while
Europe and Canada dithered.

You can earn a real easy Moral Righteousness Badge,
but it does not absolve you of a sin that every nation
and every person cannot escape.

You are intelligent and sincere, but narrow in your
tunnel vision.

 

[the caracal kid]

Jim,

I am not absolving canada of anything.
I am not claiming any nation is of some "higher ground".

All nation states reflect human nature, and as such have more commonalities than differences.

It is important to look at the realities of the tribes, and not be misled by their Ministries of Truth.

 

[I think not]

Democracy and freedom is a journey, not a destination. The definitions change with time.

 

[jimmoyer]

By the quantity of your posts, and the selective
nature of your chosen topic, you certainly do
fall prey to this tunnel vision, Caracal Kid.

Like many others, no other ill but America stirs
your passion.

Not Dafur. Not Milosovec, his soul
now passed. Not Saddam. Not Osama. Not Nuclear
Proliferation to more Nations so we have more
unpredictable variables. Not the Mordida of Mexico
destroying a whole society.

 

[I think not]

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Not the Mordida of Mexico destroying a whole society.

This cutie I tried to date once (didn't work out) from Mexico was telling me all about "LA MORDIDA". It's a way of life eating away at their way of life, so to speak.

 

[the caracal kid]

"By the quantity of your posts, and the selective
nature of your chosen topic, you certainly do
fall prey to this tunnel vision, Caracal Kid. "

Proximity.
I don't hold america above or below any other nation. I am however more directly affected by it, admittedly. This may cause me to post on america from time to time, but rest assured I am not anti-american. I am anti-propaganda, no matter what the source. If you go over my posts you will see I am not a defender of canada either, nor a defender of any of the human attrocities. I prefer to not even think in terms of nations. If I suffer from a vision problem, it is one brought on by disappointmnet in humanity.

 

[darkbeaver]

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Capital enjoys the lions share of freedom in the world today. It's not been about people for a long time now but about consumers. The American dream is about to end, the tower won't be completed. The first buildings represented a flawed and failed system, this new thing is just a continuation of the mistakes. Misguided and misdirected sentiment embodied in a building , what a joke.

 

[jimmoyer]

Sit Darkbeaver.

Have a capitalistic Thomas's English Muffin
toasted with butter.

 

[I think not]

:laughing3: