France's Sarkozy reaches out to far-right voters

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France's Sarkozy reaches out to far-right voters

Paris (CNN) -- French President Nicolas Sarkozy courted far-right voters Monday in advance of a May 6 runoff against Socialist Francois Hollande, who won the most support in the first round of France's presidential elections.

Sarkozy said he has a "duty to listen" to far-right voters after National Front candidate Marine Le Pen attracted a record amount of support in the first round of voting Sunday.

"We must respect the voters' will," Sarkozy said Monday, calling the support for Le Pen a "crisis vote."

Hollande narrowly beat Sarkozy as 10 candidates competed in the first round of the election. Hollande and Sarkozy now go to a

Second round because no one got a majority Sunday.

A poll of 1,004 people shows Hollande with support from 54.5 percent of respondents compared with 45.5 who said they would vote for Sarkozy. The French Institute of Public Opinion said it conducted the poll Sunday night.

Sarkozy, of the center-right RPR party, has been a significant figure on the European and international stages since becoming president in 2007.

Under his leadership, France has played key roles in international hot spots such as Libya and Syria, not to mention during the pan-European debt crisis, but the domestic economy has been a prime focus of the election. France is struggling in the face of sluggish economic growth and a 10% unemployment rate.

Hollande generally supports "more government action to stimulate the economy" whereas Sarkozy favors policies such as lowering some taxes and possibly repealing the mandatory 35-hour limit on the work week, said Michael Leruth, who teaches a course about the election at the College of William & Mary in Virginia.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, through spokesman Georg Streiter, expressed her support Monday for Sarkozy, but said she would work "closely and well with any elected French president."

Sarkozy is pressing for three debates with Hollande before the next round, accusing the Socialist of "fleeing his responsibilities" by saying he wanted only one debate.

Aurelie Filippetti, an adviser to Hollande, said Sunday there would only be a single debate, on May 2.

"There has always been one debate, and there's no need for (that) to change," she told CNN.

The far-right Le Pen, 43, did not specifically direct her own supporters to rally behind or against anyone in the runoff, but on Sunday night, she described Sarkozy as "the outgoing president" and characterized her party as "the only opposition."

"We have never been as high as this," she said, pointing to her showing. "This is only the beginning. Let us continue to fight."

Her National Front party -- founded and, until last year, led by her father -- has been known for anti-euro, protectionist policies, its stringent positions on curbing immigration and other more right-wing stances that would appear to jibe more closely with the views of Sarkozy than Hollande.

Yet Ludovic Dedanne, a Le Pen adviser, accused Sarkozy of breaking promises during his five years in office and said people "do not trust" him. He recommended that his candidate's supporters "abstain" in the runoff.

With all votes counted on Monday, Hollande had 28.63% support, followed by Sarkozy at 27.18%.

Le Pen garnered 17.9% of the vote, while Jean-Luc Melenchon on the extreme left had 11.11% and centrist Francois Bayrou had 9.13%.

The gap had tightened appreciably from earlier results, when Hollande held a 6-percentage-point lead with just less than half the votes counted.

Turnout was 79.47%, officials said. That marks a drop from 2007, when 84% of the nation's voters went to the polls, though key players from both Hollande and Sarkozy's camps described it as a "strong turnout" indicative of citizens' high interest in the race.

The results appeared to be historic, and a bad sign for Sarkozy. Several high-profile Hollande supporters told CNN that a French president running for re-election has never failed to place first in the first round of the vote.

Especially with neither of them close to a majority, who assumes the presidency hinges on what support Sarkozy or Hollande can get from those who didn't back them Sunday.

In his speech Sunday night, Melenchon urged his supporters to "fight against Sarkozy" -- noting that he's not "asking for anything in exchange" from Hollande for siding with him.

"I'm asking you not to drag your feet," Melenchon told his backers. "I just ask you to mobilize."

One year ago, Hollande wasn't even considered by many as the Socialist party's best hope. That distinction belonged to then-International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who polls suggested could challenge and possibly beat Sarkozy.

But Strauss-Kahn's political prospects floundered in the wake of sexual assault charges -- later dropped -- after an incident at a New York hotel, as well as accusations he participated in a prostitution ring in France. That helped propel the 57-year-old Hollande, who has never formally held any national elected office, to become his party's presidential choice.

He is now aiming to become France's first left-wing leader since the late Francois Mitterrand left office in 1995.

French Trade and Tourism Minister Frederic Lefebvre described Hollande as "the choice of the past," with other Sarkozy backers playing up the fact that Francois Mitterand didn't select him as one of his ministers during his 14 years as president, which ended in 1995.

Yet Hollande adviser Filippetti said that Le Pen's strong showing suggested that Sarkozy couldn't get those more philosophically aligned with his views to support him, despite his "aggressive" efforts. That will leave the incumbent hard-pressed to unite all French, she said.

"The people ... don't trust Nicolas Sarkozy any more," Filippetti said.

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In France.. he'd probably get more votes than going right. ;)

The left votes are fairly well locked ip - Also many cannot stand the man. And France is only a short time away from going the way of Greece. With a Left Wing govt that debt and stagnant economy will only worsen.
 

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The left votes are fairly well locked ip - Also many cannot stand the man. And France is only a short time away from going the way of Greece. With a Left Wing govt that debt and stagnant economy will only worsen.

Depends on the debt to GDP ratio.

Contrary to what North Americans believe, a leftist government doesn't mean the economy goes to the ****ter or unruly spending. Most of the northern European countries are doing very well economically, and they are not governed by right-wing parties.
 

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Depends on the debt to GDP ratio.

Contrary to what North Americans believe, a leftist government doesn't mean the economy goes to the ****ter or unruly spending. Most of the northern European countries are doing very well economically, and they are not governed by right-wing parties.

I believe it is around 90 %. Also look at what the left has promsed.
 

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I believe it is around 90 %. Also look at what the left has promsed.

The "left" doesn't have to promise anything. Being left (economically) simply means that the government has more control of the economy. There can be good controls and there can be bad controls.

It doesn't require public services up the wazoo, heavy spending or excessive tax policy.
 

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The "left" doesn't have to promise anything. Being left (economically) simply means that the government has more control of the economy. There can be good controls and there can be bad controls.

It doesn't require public services up the wazoo, heavy spending or excessive tax policy.

Look to the unemloyment figures in France. Those that also can only find part time, contract positions. Large numbers and that is not a sign of a heatlhy economy. Blame it on the last recession - Not - France has had these same high numbers for quite a few years if not a couple of decades.

Around?

Try 86%....how about us?

83%....Harper is doing a good job eh?

What was it under Cretien?

As low as 49%.

Well Buckey tell me how the ecomomists rate Canada's debt.

As you are new here links are normally posted. Just a hint.
So links please.
 

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How about German Employment numbers?

How about Swedens, Finlands, Switzerlands, Denmarks, Norways, Austria, Netherlands.....non of which is a bastian of right wing ideology.



Where are your links?

Did you note I stated around. If you surf you will find differing numbers. Can you figure out why?

Debt-to-GDP Ratio of 10 Largest Economies | munKNEE.com
The chart below via the Wall Street Journal. It shows the total debt to GDP ratios for the largest developed economies in the world broken down into four sectors: households, non-financial corporations, financial institutions and government.

 

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The point is that you can have a successful economy from both sides political spectrum. The difference is simply how well government or private enterprise makes its decisions.
 

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Good link.

Seems there are many countries below us.

Is there an exspanded graph?

I'll assume of course that the lower the number the more right wing a country is....correct?

If not can you figure out why?

Nope - I do not know what your parameters are - Do you consider Canada Right Wing - Do you consider the Democrats in the US Left Wing?
Can you tell me that please?
 

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No doubt, look no further than the hero of the right Ronald Reagan.

He tripled the debt, not one single year of surpluses.....the Libs in Canada....several years in the black only to have that evaporate under a Reformer in Harper.

Nevermind the borderline communist China, who is looking to become the leading economy in the next few years.
 

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Nevermind the borderline communist China, who is looking to become the leading economy in the next few years.

China will be grey before they are rich. look to india as the powerhouse nect in line. Younger popualtion by age groups than China.
They are finally starting to develop their internal economy compared to 10 -15 years or so ago. That will be their biggest hurdle, along with the massive debt that state companies - cities hold. They will also have to pay the piper at some time or another.

Yes, those darn commies....:lol:

Speaking of which....what is the unemployment rate in Cuba?

About 1%.....WTF!




Seems you can gauge who is left wing and who is not.

If you don't have to explain that why should I?

Well like you I also have an opinion. Something wrong with that.
 

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Nope, not at all.

When you can define who is right and who is left I will do the same but until then that is nothing more than a red herring on your part.

What red herring - Sarkozy is not well liked - The left is locked up by the guy whose ex wife pushed past him to gain the nomination and lose to Sarkozy during the last election- Sarkozy can only persuade voters on the far right. he may gain a few on the left but those numbers would be small. Why would they vote left to suddenly change to Sarkozy?
Sarkozy is right of center. And your questions are?
 

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Yes, those darn commies....:lol:

Speaking of which....what is the unemployment rate in Cuba?

About 1%.....WTF!




Seems you can gauge who is left wing and who is not.

If you don't have to explain that why should I?

Cuba? Having a job that you are virtually forced to have and barely keeps you fed is not very progressive. Thousands upon thousands of Cubans risked their lives to get to the USA. How can Cuba even enter into a fiscal argument?
I believe they needed their revolution given the situation up through the 50's when they were essentially a US colony being raped and having zero self determination.
That time is long gone Cuba, is ripe to join the free world IMO.

China is now showing signs of free enterprise sprouting, tends to happen when light creeps into a long darkened greenhouse. Hong kong was a free enterprise catalyst.
The information age has changed the world utterly and forever. No longer can a nation state blank out the rest of the world. I believe both extreme right and left dogma is a dinosaur doomed to extinction.
 

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For those that haven't figured it out yet. Gerrya is avro. Guess the poor boy doesn't have a life.

It took me a tad of time but yes I got baited. It was the name that clued me in. But honestly I was not 100 % sure until you confirmed it. Thought I could be wrong. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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It's not as if I was hiding it.:lol:

The alphabet it long....gerryb, gerryc, gerryd....etc etc etc.

Why were you permabanned anyway?

Most of your posts are pretty benign compared to the trolls that lurk these days.