Five dead in Sask highschool shooting

Ron in Regina

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La Loche has had its problems over the years. I used to do road maintenance up there, spraying the gravel roads with calcium to keep the dust down in the summer. My company spends about four or five days up there every year.

One summer we were told by some of the locals that a gang of young bucks were coming out to rob us, but it never happened. On another occasion there was a a pickup truck full of young native men who came out to try and intimidate us. Mostly posturing, which amounted to a short lived stand off. Outsiders aren't all the welcome in La Loche.

I believe the RCMP were under siege there at one point.

Very sad about this. Young teacher and students wasted senselessly.

Though I haven't been up to La Loche in about 20yrs, I
have been up there about 20 times in the five years
before that. To say that La Loche 'had its problems' is
being very kind. It's one of the nastiest armpits I've ever
come across, if not the nastiest.

I've always been into La Loche for business and not
pleasure, and have had experiences similiar to what
you are describing. The RCMP assigned to La Loche
must have really pissed someone off to be punished
with that posting. My experience with the RCMP up
there is that they stayed inside their locked building,
communicating with the community via telephone &
and intercom on the wall outside their locked building,
coming out only when they absolutely had to.

I was up there repossessing furniture in the '90's....

I agree. It is very sad, and a tragic waste of human
potential. The School shooting, I mean.
 

JLM

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As someone who lost a child to crib death, every time I hear a story like this
i unfortunately know what the parents are going through right now. This
is a situation where nothing a parent can do will be of any value the child is
gone and the memory and feeling is triggered with each shooting and
there ain't nothing can be done. Scenes like this play out and it angers me
to the core and in the midst of that a sprinkle of sadness.
Now can some understand what is going on in a few homes tonight?
And who the hell cares if its a native home or some other home?
Yesterday families lost their child regardless of age and the family of the
shooter are also reluctant victims they lost a child too. To the justice system
the family is guilty of nothing, in fact what I heard is he shot family members
before the school Honestly sometimes we have to think about what we say
in our first reactions to these situations.
I would also like to suggest by volunteer or legislation we not mention the name
of any mass murderer or group or gang it gives them prestige and life



A wise post indeed- it's just too bad getting such wisdom is in itself a very sad process!
 

spaminator

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Though I haven't been up to La Loche in about 20yrs, I
have been up there about 20 times in the five years
before that. To say that La Loche 'had its problems' is
being very kind. It's one of the nastiest armpits I've ever
come across, if not the nastiest.

I've always been into La Loche for business and not
pleasure, and have had experiences similiar to what
you are describing. The RCMP assigned to La Loche
must have really pissed someone off to be punished
with that posting. My experience with the RCMP up
there is that they stayed inside their locked building,
communicating with the community via telephone &
and intercom on the wall outside their locked building,
coming out only when they absolutely had to.

I was up there repossessing furniture in the '90's....
Good reason to suspect the whole town is being exposed rather than the people that chose to live there are just naturally lower class people than anybody else except ISIS.
Ever come back empty handed. If people are being shot I don't have much hope for a plasma TV lasting very long. 36" CRT and then it can't be stolen as well as being able to fall over occasionally and still work.

Sound like trailer trash would even bypass if they could. It might be a sign of what's coming to every town.
 

JLM

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Good reason to suspect the whole town is being exposed rather than the people that chose to live there are just naturally lower class people than anybody else except ISIS.
Ever come back empty handed. If people are being shot I don't have much hope for a plasma TV lasting very long. 36" CRT and then it can't be stolen as well as being able to fall over occasionally and still work.

Sound like trailer trash would even bypass if they could. It might be a sign of what's coming to every town.


Perhaps what you are saying is an indication many people need help more than ridicule! Don't fall into the trap of being a Knucklehead!
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Put up yer hand if you were ever teased. Lefties always want to make an excuse for bad behaviour.

But it is cracked down on now from JK to grade 12. When it does happen, the natural defenses we all develop from earlier teasing are not there. So when it does eventually happen ....
 

JLM

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Put up yer hand if you were ever teased. Lefties always want to make an excuse for bad behaviour.


There's teasing and then there's TEASING. Occasional light hearted teasing is one thing- when it's relentless and mean spirited that's entirely different. I don't believe any kind of teasing is an excuse for an attempt on nine lives, killing four. But excuse or not when there is relentless, mean spirited teasing there is a slim chance of that result and anyone who doesn't realize that by now is a f**king Knucklehead!
 

SLM

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But it is cracked down on now from JK to grade 12. When it does happen, the natural defenses we all develop from earlier teasing are not there. So when it does eventually happen ....

That's because there is no balance, no moderation in attitudes anymore. Everything has become extreme. When every incident and issue becomes a tragic and traumatizing one, the ones that are truly traumatizing get lost in crowd.
 

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Teen has fetal alcohol syndrome, defence experts say as sentencing hearing delayed for La Loche shooter
Andrea Hill, Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, August 25, 2017 01:26 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, August 25, 2017 01:38 PM EDT
MEADOW LAKE, Sask. — Closing arguments in the sentencing hearing for the teen who killed four people and injured seven others in La Loche last year were delayed after two defence experts submitted a letter saying the shooter has fetal alcohol syndrome.
Crown prosecutor Lloyd Stang on Friday said he wanted an opportunity to cross examine the two experts before making his closing arguments, which were originally scheduled for Friday at Meadow Lake provincial court. The judge consented and scheduled the cross examinations for Sept. 1. Final arguments may also take place that day.
During sentencing arguments last month, defence psychiatrist Dr. Mansfield Mela told court that he observed symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome in the teen shooter (who cannot be named under the Youth Criminal Justice Act), but that he couldn't confirm a diagnosis because interviews with the teen's mother about whether she consumed alcohol during her pregnancy provided “inconclusive" information.
Since then, the judge ordered a Gladue report on the teen's background. Such reports provide information about aboriginal offenders' personal backgrounds and, in this case, discussed the drinking habits of the teen shooter's mother.
After seeing that report, Mela and defence psychologist Dr. Monty Nelson wrote a letter to the judge confirming the shooter's fetal alcohol syndrome diagnosis.
La Loche Mayor Robert St. Pierre, who travelled to Meadow Lake for Friday's court date, said the delay is disappointing.
"A lot of people, I think, want to move this process forward and move onto their healing journey so delaying it again on the defence just adds to that anxiety again," St. Pierre told reporters outside court. "What's the end result here? Is he going to be sentenced as a youth? Is he going to be sentenced as an adult? A lot of people want some closure so it just prolongs that process."
The teen shooter was just weeks away from his 18th birthday, when on Jan. 22, 2016 he shot two people in a home and then opened fire inside La Loche Community School. He pleaded guilty last October to two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of brothers Dayne and Drayden Fontaine, two counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of teacher’s aide Marie Janvier and teacher Adam Wood, and seven counts of attempted murder.
Judge Janet McIvor will eventually decide whether to sentence the teen as a youth, which carries a maximum term of six years in custody and four years under supervision in the community, or as an adult, which would result in a sentence of life behind bars.
McIvor said this summer that when she is ready to issue her decision, she will do so in La Loche.
St. Pierre said there are mixed feelings about that.
"There's still some reservations on some members of the community just because of safety or what that might entail depending on the reading of the decision, how that may look or how that may come about," he said.
"But other community members have expressed that they'd rather have it in the community so it's still a toss up, I'm still not sure where that's going to lead and still need to have more consultation."
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Teen has fetal alcohol syndrome, defence experts say as sentencing hearing delay