Fired bus driver speaks out

CDNBear

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Anyone here not do that at least once?
Me.

All Canadians have the right to bargain their labour so you are wrong. Union "leaches" have no more rights and privileges than other Canadians.
I would imagine being a union leach like yourself, you'd have to feel that way.

Face it, you and your buddies have more rights and privileges than other Canadians.

BTW, on another thread, you mentioned all the "benefits" I got by being in a union and when asked what "benefits" I get, you kinda disappeared. Maybe you would like to clarify here.
I didn't disappear.
 
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CDNBear

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Wrong on all three accounts.

1, Being a union leach, with your proven double standards, I would be correct.
2, Unions have powers, protections and rights, non unionized Canadians do not have. I would be correct.
3, I'm posting. I would be correct.

Really, it's ok pumpkin, the only person that thinks your hypocrisy is a secret, seems to be you.
 

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Can you give me an example?



Since it is the employer who would need defending in a wrongful dismissal suit, are you calling employers scumbuckets? I don't think even Buzz Hargrove would stoop that low.

No I am not - Never mind wisting - The fellow won on a technicality - As to providing info you know as well as I that I cannot. You can either believe me or not.
 

CDNBear

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As to providing info you know as well as I that I cannot. You can either believe me or not.
It doesn't matter whether you can prove it or not. This is an informal debate. Supporting proof, evidence, facts, aren't needed.

Well, if you're Cannuck that is.

His double standards dictate that anyone but him needs to support their claims.
 

Cannuck

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1, Being a union leach, with your proven double standards, I would be correct.

Nope. You haven't even explained what benefits I get from being in a union.

2, Unions have powers, protections and rights, non unionized Canadians do not have.

Nope again. Non union Canadian workers can unionize if they choose or they can even form professional associations

3, I'm posting. I would be correct.

Nope times three. I was referring to the other thread.

So, what benefits do you think I have? I'll give you a hint. If there was a vote to de-certify tomorrow, I would be in favour. So what benefits would I be willing to do without?
 

CDNBear

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Nope. You haven't even explained what benefits I get from being in a union.



Nope again. Non union Canadian workers can unionize if they choose or they can even form professional associations



Nope times three. I was referring to the other thread.

So, what benefits do you think I have? I'll give you a hint. If there was a vote to de-certify tomorrow, I would be in favour. So what benefits would I be willing to do without?
Ummm, you must have missed this...

It doesn't matter whether you can prove it or not. This is an informal debate. Supporting proof, evidence, facts, aren't needed.

Well, if you're Cannuck that is.

His double standards dictate that anyone but him needs to support their claims.
I don't need to prove anything.

According to your standards.

Your hypocrisy, is again, duly noted.
 

Cannuck

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Ummm, you must have missed this...

I don't need to prove anything.

According to your standards.

Your hypocrisy, is again, duly noted.


I'm not sure where I stated you were required to prove anything. I just asked you a question.

Getting back to the issue of unions, I think you are confusing them with First Nations. Any Canadian can choose to be in a union.
 

CDNBear

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Getting back to the issue of unions, I think you are confusing them with First Nations. Any Canadian can choose to be in a union.
Your infatuation with First Nations aside. Nope, no confusion.

Unions have the final say of who can and can not be a member.

Something First Nations can not do.
 

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Unions have the final say of who can and can not be a member.
Thank goodness for Standard of Excellence policies and no, Union members don't have more rights, they have more tools available to them to uphold their rights.
 
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CDNBear

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False yet again. In the ridiculously and incredibly minute possibility that a union would not want members one could always start their own but you're really grasping at straws now.

FAQ - New Union

Can I start my own first nation?
LMAO! Speaking of grasping at straws.

No person has ever had their union membership revoked, and forced to pay "agency fees" instead of union dues, to keep their job.



Like I said, you'll say anything to support the union.

And unless you here before the Europeans and negotiated a living contract, my guess would be no. But I'm sure you'll have a problem with that negotiated contract. Only unions are allowed to negotiate contracts that simply benefit themselves. Your double standards being what they are.
 

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Something I find funny....a Union local is going to drop $2.6M on a new hall and training center. It will be built by a non-Union contractor.

So much for the illusion of an Us Vs. Them quagmire.
 

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After watching the video the bus driver used the F word while screaming at the rider that would not leave him alone.

He will eventually get his job back when he gets some anger management classes.

The problem is that there is no sign posted anywhere on the bus that you cannot talk to the driver of a bus because it takes the concentration away from driving and it is comparable to talking on a cell phone.

Eventually the city has to start buying buses with separate door for the driver that physically separated from the passengers.

They would have to hire a separate ticket taker or install an electronic fare box that only takes a reloadable bus pass that is scanned on the reader.

In Toronto and other major cities there is more rider agitation towards the bus driver and it looks like this trends will get worse before it gets better.

 

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Something I find funny....a Union local is going to drop $2.6M on a new hall and training center. It will be built by a non-Union contractor.
Seriously?

I never was able to get City of Toronto contracts, because I had a non union shop.

One of those rights unions get, that I was referring to.
 

petros

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Yuppers. Quorex (non-union) will be building a new hall for the UA.

To make matters more weird the Con. govt of SK is tickled pinko because it eases the load on them in the training aspect of things.
 

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Like I said, you'll say anything to support the union.

I don't support the union. I have said that before and you called me a hypocrite for accepting all the benefits that I get with the union while not supporting it (you haven't explained what benefits you think I get, despite being asked repeatedly). Talk about moving goal posts...LOL, you are the king of that tactic. So which is it? Am I a hypocrite or do I support the union?

Something I find funny....a Union local is going to drop $2.6M on a new hall and training center. It will be built by a non-Union contractor.

So much for the illusion of an Us Vs. Them quagmire.

The union I belong to has no issue with non-union outside labour...at least it has never come up in the 8 years I've been here.
 

petros

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The union I belong to has no issue with non-union outside labour...at least it has never come up in the 8 years I've been here.
Yeah there are lots of permit workers but we rarely hear about those guys. After 3 months they can join or keep working permit until the job is finished.
 

petros

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Yup but that all comes back as a tax credit and bennys anyway. In SK non-union has screwed up so many times on major projects that Union has been GIVEN preference.

If you still need work they'll need 50 fitter/welders in two weeks. $44 an hour plus sub for out of province employees. It's for PCL/Melloy doing a strip and refit of the portion of the CCRL refinery that had the explosion a couple months back.