So you're NOT fed up with any religion that calls for heinous crimes to be committed in its name?
Would it be fair to say that you are angry that Charles Manson ever went to prison?
Why are you asking me about this? Muslims CLAIM to be the religion of peace and they CLAIM to revere Abraham, Isaac and Moses......which means they SHOULD be honouring the ten commandments.....do you suppose any Muslim has compared the instructions God gave Moses to the behaviour exhibited by ISIS as it murders people in so many creative ways? Thou shalt not kill- but beheading men is fun and it is relaxing to rape the wives and daughters? So much for Allah favouring the compassionate and merciful?
Here is an article illustrating what Muslims consider “reasonable steps” for religious accommodation. With some comments of my own in brackets):
School guidelines okay weekly prayers: Muslim leader
Chris Reynolds, Toronto Sun. First posted: Monday, July 04, 2011 06:30 PM EDT
Public schools have an obligation to ensure students can practise their faith, a local Muslim leader insisted Monday.
Alimamy Bangura, executive director of the Muslim Education Network, said the Valley Park Middle School’s weekly prayer sessions for Islamic students fall within Toronto District School Board guidelines.
He referred to the school board guidelines which specify the need to “take reasonable steps to provide accommodation to individual members of a religious group.”
Prayer is just one of the areas highlighted for accommodation, along with fasting, observation of religious holy days, and “modesty requirements” in physical education.
(Actually there is NO mandate to accommodate religious holidays as any Jewish or Hindu student will tell Muslims- not that they would heed a Jew!)
“All schools in the TDSB — high schools — are required to make provisions for prayers which makes it possible for Muslim students to pray whenever they wish,” Bangura argued.
(The non denominational Lords Prayer- the mildest and least contentious Christian prayer has been banned from school in a display of religious tolerance and now Muslims DEMAND that school the door be forced open to their own crap!)
There is no doubt that the public school system is secular, he added.
“But the students that go to these schools are not secular. They do not take off their religious garb and leave them outside the doors of the school, only to pick them up at the end of the day,” said Bangura. “They take those values with them,
and I think it is to the benefit of the school, not only Muslim students.”
(Too bad a lot of Cdns of many faiths are all concerned with the TYPE of prayers being spoken at Muslim prayer sessions. We have all heard way to much about radical writings at ALL Muslim schools and Mahdrassas through out Canada! The school board AND OUR GOVT have the right to monitor what manner of crap you are teaching kids! And in fairness to ALL- since our schools ARE secular, maybe it would be most fair to insist that Muslims take off their religious garb and leave it at the school door- to be recovered at the end of the school day as the Imam has suggested?)
(It seems logical to me that one way of eliminating radical Muslims from Canada would be to INSIST on certain minimal standards of behaviour such as: no systematic insulting of women, no hate speech against infidels and NO Burqas or other restrictive religiously mandated clothing! Either you can be comfortable with minimal western standards of dress, social behaviour and political tolerance or you are OUT-and good riddance!)
(Ernst Zundel was a German born Holocaust denier who came to the attention of govt because of his habit of distributing his scurrilous literature to Cdns-going around neighborhoods and dumping his propaganda into mail boxes- imcluding the mail boxes of Holocaust surviviors- until people complained. Zundel refused to stop his propaganda distribution and was eventually stripped of Cdn citizenship and deported back to Germany. Jim Keegstra was an Alberta high school teacher who got fired from his job for teaching kids that the Holocaust was a fake and fraud and that Hitler had some good ideas about race and Keegstra was fired for his historical revisions of the school curriculum.)
WE are Cdns and have free speech but you cannot force your self and your hatred into peoples faces! You can say what you want at home but on public school property you will keep a civil tongue in your head and stick to the approved school curriculum and values! Muslim hate is no more acceptable than Nazi hate and at least Germans have generally accepted they did wrong in the Hitler era while Muslims still insist they are the Chosen of Allah! Some Muslims point to ancient Catholic bigotry but that is a red herring- Catholics have very long ago admitted error with regard to their `Inquisition`! It is now only Muslims that are convinced THEIR S**T does not stink!)
Here is an older article illustrating the on-going gross bias of LIE-berals. With some comments of my own in brackets):
Ontario being selective about religious accommodation
By Christina Blizzard, Queen's Park Columnist
First posted: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 07:28 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 08:48 PM EDT
Steve Tourloukis wants his daughter's school to notify him when parts of the curriculum not in keeping with his family's religious beliefs are being taught in school.
TORONTO - Welcome to Ontario — where we have “religious accommodation,” in our public schools. Or not, depending on which religion needs accommodation.
If you’re a Catholic school and your parents, priests and a cardinal say they don’t want a Gay/Straight Alliance because it’s not in keeping with Catholic beliefs, not only will you have GSA’s forced upon you, you’ll be slammed as a homophobe for opposing them.
If, however, you’re a parent at Valley Park Public School in North York and you want to have Muslim prayers in the school cafeteria during school time on a Friday afternoon, that’s perfectly OK.
Let’s ignore the fact that girls are told to sit behind boys and girls who are menstruating are told to sit at the very back.
It’s OK to humiliate those girls and reinforce a medieval notion that women are inferior to men because it’s all done in the name of “religious accommodation.”
In a public school, on school time.
Now, Hamilton parent Steve Tourloukis says he wants to be notified ahead of time when his child’s class will be studying such issues as sex ed and homosexuality.
In a scrum earlier this week, Education Minister Laurel Broten pondered the nature of religious accommodation and talked about the Ontario Human Rights Code-OHRC- and the Canadian Charter of Rights. She was unaware of the situation at Valley Park when I asked her about it.
(OH, she CLAIMS she is unaware!)
How does telling women they’re second class fit within the OHRC or the charter of rights, I asked?
An aide got back to me later.
“Boards, like any other workplace or public institution, need to find ways to make religious accommodations. Through the Policy on Creed and the accommodation of religious observances, boards get direction from the OHRC on how public institutions should make religious accommodations,” said Grahame Rivers. “It’s not our place to determine what is part of someone’s faith observance and what is not.”
Unless, of course, you’re a Catholic and you’d prefer to have a “Rainbow club” in your school, instead of a “Gay/Straight Alliance.”
(Or if you are a woman and are hugely uncomfortable with anti female aspects of Sharia Law-which Muslims EXPECT to see here in Canada at some point in the future!)
“Families are entitled to their beliefs and school boards must work with their local communities and families on a case-by-case basis to work out accommodations, if necessary,” Rivers said.
(IN other words, our vaunted constitution-written by LIE-beral Pierre Trudope is now DISPOSABLE- IF it will win more votes for power made LIE-berals!)
Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday parents can already request their children be excused from classes on religious grounds.
(And too bad schools will shrug and tell you its YOUR problem as they are too busy to review every little detail with you! Not even for 30 seconds!)
“We have worked as a society long and hard to develop a publicly funded education system that shares with our children, all children of all different backgrounds, some basic values and tenets that help us build a strong, diverse, tolerant, respectful society,” McGuinty said.
Huh? Can this be the same premier who rejected faith-based schools as “sequestration and segregation,” in the 2007 election? How diverse, tolerant and respectful is it to tell little girls to sit at the back of the room?
Shockingly, the OHRC goes along with this nonsense.
Ash Wednesday is a day of devotion for Anglicans. You don’t see them demanding priests be allowed in public schools on that day to run a church service. Nor should they. Observant Anglicans take their kids out of school and take them to church for the service. They get a letter from the church so they’re not marked absent.
That’s how religious accommodation should work.
Don’t get me wrong. My kids went to public school. I don’t believe in censorship and selective education. I’m not advocating for parents to pull their kids from classes.
I do worry that we’re being selective about religious accommodation. There is no accommodation for Catholic beliefs — yet they have a constitutional right to their own schools. And Catholic schools do an excellent job of teaching those very morals, values and ethics that McGinty talked about. But they get smacked upside the head.
Meanwhile, we accommodate groups that humiliate little girls.
That’s a very toxic message to send to kids.
(There is no moral nor any value that LIE-berals will not dispose of in their quest for power. They will move ahead with their poisoned agenda even if it bankrupts us- just like power mad third world dictators who shrug off the collapse of their countries- just so long as the palace is well stocked!)