Once again..... if that is the case, YOU ASK! It's not difficult to do, and it saves everybody a lot of time and trouble.
People and their assumptions again :roll:
Family outraged after Ont. girl buried without brain
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Once again..... if that is the case, YOU ASK! It's not difficult to do, and it saves everybody a lot of time and trouble.
People and their assumptions again :roll:
Well whoopie-doo for them, I'm getting misty-eyed, truly I am.
The big issue I have with this is that the parents now need to get a lawyer, all their papers, and basically prove that they still have their child's brain, even though they already admitted they have it and explained their reasons for having it...... to me, it's a pile of burocracy bullsh*t no parents should have to go through after their child dies...... I don't care how hard they're working or what religious beliefs they know or practice...... ask them if they want all the organs returned and this isssue would never exist.
Fig, it's probably takes less then 10 seconds to ask the question and get an answer...... but instead of doing that, now there's this whole legal battle the parents now have to deal with.
Have you ever sent stuff to a government office? They work according to rules and prescedent. Things get misplaced - and the longest distance ever is that between two bureaucrats.
Not even at Burger King can one have it their way without asking.
Yeah I have sent stuff to a gov. office in the past.... and will be doing so again shortly...... it's sorta one of the reasons why i have collections on my ass as it is..... because they didn't do their damn jobs properly based on the procedures dictated.... but somehow them misplacing several forms sent into them by me is my fault, even when I personally dropped them off to the office and made sure they got it..... somehow that got misplaced too.
So don't tell me about the government and their dumb-ass rules and prescedent, because they have to follow those rules in order for them to matter. They are human, just like everybody else, and can screw up more often then not..... and last I checked, they have no procedures that claim they have rights to keep organs and other body parts for their own personal reasons against the wishes of the family..... and if they don't know those wishes, they should ask.
The difference with Burger King, is that when you order something, you know what you are getting, because they describe or show a diagram of what is included..... normally you request things to be added or taken off based on the given information..... but where is the information for these guys claiming they can keep body parts when every they wish, as they wish?
Family members who are trying to deal with a dead family member are not autopsy experts, they're not the one's who went to university/college to learn all the ins and outs of what they do, which is why they should be explained to the families before they take action.
and as stated in the report above that they signed no forms allowing them to keep any organs after the autopsy, and if they knew that organs and/or other body parts were going to be kept, common sense would state that they wouldn't have permitted them to perform in autopsy in the first place.
Far be it for anyone to tell you anything....
Check the news. I bet the folks who got E-coli didn't get it their way. It ain't a perfect world, prax ... even in ours of reality. Shyte happens. Get used to it.
Sorry, but that explination doesn't cut it for me, and no, I won't get used to it.
My body, and everybody else's body, alive or dead does not belong to the government or idiot sicentists who think they got a clue.
If I ever find out that there is a chance the government or some dumbass science class plan on taking my body apart or keeping parts of it for their own sick and twisted little games, then I'll just make sure I fill my body with so much fibre, beans, hummus, old chunky milk and a timed pipe bomb lodged into my stomach so they'll have a suprise in store when they take my body.
It's my body and it's my life, and I'll dispose of myself as I please. If I am not a blood donor, and I am not an organ donor, then wtf do you or anybody else think it's ok to harvest my body?
It's not.
Selfish of me is it?
No more selfish then those same asspuckers who take dead people's bodies without permission, who probably wouldn't submit their own bodies for study in the same respects.
It's not them or their family members, so who cares right?
Oh yeah, I already asked that and still got no answer. :roll:
Like I said ... why would anyone explain to you. Either you know it all or there's nothing to catch the info.
No, my sister knows it all, hince her username Knowitall
I explained how I understand the situation and what I got from existing explinations of justification, and if they are not adiquate of an explination, then I ask futher questions so what they say may eventually make sense. If there are no futher explinations, then it simply doesn't make sense, and therefore they are not justified with their reasoning or actions.
**** happens LW, true,
But why does that mean the family are the one to deal with it? The other thing about **** is that is that it is easy to transfer.
Now the autoposy people are in ****, hopefully a world of ****, but hey, **** happens and they can deal with it, as it may cost them their jobs.
But why does that mean the family are the one to deal with it? The other thing about **** is that is that it is easy to transfer.
Now the autoposy people are in ****, hopefully a world of ****, but hey, **** happens and they can deal with it, as it may cost them their jobs.
Hopefully there's some room on that mountain of shyte created by one Doctor Smith. There can be no justifying the foulup - only those excuses Bureaucrats have come to accept.
I'm aware. We always do. I have never seen a death where the family wasn't asked about their preferences and requirements. I currently work in a catholic hospital and we have other religious leaders on call to ask any questions who will come in and comfort families. Of course, then we try not to assume ALL muslims or ALL jews or ALL christians feel the same way.... But, like I said, we always ask the family and their wishes are respected.
Well just so you know, my comment was in general and not exactly directed towards you.... the quote just reminded me of something I wanted to say.