Psst....try reading it.
It is relevant to what you guys are doing to yourselves.
They help create jobs?
Are you for frickin real?
Man you crack me up.:lol:
F-35 Stealth Fighters Come Without Engines
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Psst....try reading it.
It is relevant to what you guys are doing to yourselves.
They help create jobs?
Are you for frickin real?
Man you crack me up.:lol:
We could make a widgets develop a market for them, make money and keep our economy going, we are good at selling products and someone is always ready to buy.
Hire some immigrants...............illegal or no...........have them heave up on the plane and run like hell downhill. Who TF needs engines...........****, we are too stupid..................................35 BILLION..............think about it.
To bad about AVRO, it was a good company. The U.S. can always fall back on the better F-22 engine, it has not been scrapped. (Yet?)
Canada should not buy this plane - it is the last for the most part of a manned aircraft - The new air wars will be fought with armed drones - Canada should invest, buy technology etc and jump to the next level of what an air war will be. Then we would be once again in the lead of a tech that everyone will need.
Armed drones, your right soon (maybe now) they will be able to out fly any manned aircraft. Drones have hit mach 7 in tests and that was a couple of years ago. For all we know Canada is already involved in the high tech needed to produce them.
30 billion+ for fighter jets without engines...ranks up there with 6 billion for subs that sink and don't come back up...
Why we don't just go back to a few canoes and some slingshots is beyond me.
The last estimates were about $135 million each with the service parts and hardware. Of course the software is proprietary to the US Govt so who even knows if any of them will fly if we don't do exactly what the Americans want all the time. The friggin yanks will be able to send a little signal and shut them all down in a heartbeat.
Why we don't just go back to a few canoes and some slingshots is beyond me.
The last estimates were about $135 million each with the service parts and hardware. Of course the software is proprietary to the US Govt so who even knows if any of them will fly if we don't do exactly what the Americans want all the time. The friggin yanks will be able to send a little signal and shut them all down in a heartbeat.
The only point I was trying to make was the Conservatives are adamant that the cost of F35's is going to be 75M per copy not the 135M being estimated. So they are really good negoiators or they are trying to pull the wool over Parliament with fictious cost estimates.
Stop.....:lol:.....it....oh god....:lol:....can't breath.....:lol:....oh my sides.....:lol::lol:....man, you are one funny dude.....:lol::lol:
:lol::lol::lol:......F-22.....:lol::lol:...biggest waste of money ever.....:lol::lol::lol:....1.5 trillion....:lol::lol:.....what great money managers you are.....:lol::lol:.
So now the estimate on lifetime cost of an F35 is 375M over 30 years as outlined by the US military. Thats 24.375B for 65 of them. That number is alot closer to Kevin Page's estimate than the Conservatives.Do you think the Cons will get their head out of the sand anytime soon or are they waiting to lay the real estimate on Cdns until after the election?
Or twice as many SuperHornets & still have change leftover.Sure could buy a bunch of these.
Check out the price tag of these little beauties.
The shift away from manned-fighter technology is serious business. In an essay today, Lawrence Korb and Krisila Benson argue that should the Pentagon eventually terminate the F-22 Raptor, the loss of production will not degrade the U.S. strategic-industrial base, since "the Obama administration's fiscal 2010 budget includes 28 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters - planes better suited for air-to-ground combat."
American Power: Unmanned Fighter Aircraft (And the Left)
The next generation of fighters probably will be unmanned. They will not be cheap like the predators, Super Hornets or any third generation fighter would stand a chance against them.
LONDON (AFP) – An unmanned jet capable of striking long-range targets has been dubbed the combat aircraft of the future" by the Ministry of Defence.
The Taranis -- named after the Celtic god of thunder -- was unveiled at a ceremony at BAE Systems in Warton, Lancashire, on Monday.
The £142.5 million prototype is the size of a light aircraft and has been equipped with stealth technology to make it virtually undetectable.
In a press release, the MoD described the Taranis as "a prototype unmanned combat aircraft of the future."
It is built to carry out intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions while its crew stays safely on the ground and can control the aircraft from anywhere in the world.
The unmanned fighter jet can also carry bombs and missiles and, if the trials prove successful, the MoD said it should "ultimately be capable of striking targets at long range, even in another continent."
The current generation of propeller-driven drones -- such as the Predator and Reaper -- are capable of carrying missiles, but these unmanned planes can only be used in areas where the military has air dominance, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
The first flight trials are due to start next year.
"Taranis is a truly trailblazing project," said Minister for International Security Strategy Gerald Howarth.
"The first of its kind in the UK, it reflects the best of our nation's advanced design and technology skills and is a leading programme on the global stage."
February 6th, 2011
Unmanned aircraft, and warfare in general, took a serious step forward Friday when the Navy’s X-47B Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle demonstrator took to the skies for the first time.
The stealthy jet flew in a circular pattern known as a racetrack with its landing gear down (standard for first flights) for 29 minutes at an altitude of 5,000 in the airspace around Edwards Air Force Base in California, by all accounts the flight was a success.
http://defensetech.org/2011/02/06/navys-x-47b-stealthy-combat-drone-makes-first-flight/
The shift away from manned-fighter technology is serious business. In an essay today, Lawrence Korb and Krisila Benson argue that should the Pentagon eventually terminate the F-22 Raptor, the loss of production will not degrade the U.S. strategic-industrial base, since "the Obama administration's fiscal 2010 budget includes 28 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters - planes better suited for air-to-ground combat."
American Power: Unmanned Fighter Aircraft (And the Left)
The next generation of fighters probably will be unmanned. They will not be cheap like the predators, Super Hornets or any third generation fighter would stand a chance against them.
LONDON (AFP) – An unmanned jet capable of striking long-range targets has been dubbed the combat aircraft of the future" by the Ministry of Defence.
The Taranis -- named after the Celtic god of thunder -- was unveiled at a ceremony at BAE Systems in Warton, Lancashire, on Monday.
The £142.5 million prototype is the size of a light aircraft and has been equipped with stealth technology to make it virtually undetectable.
In a press release, the MoD described the Taranis as "a prototype unmanned combat aircraft of the future."
It is built to carry out intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions while its crew stays safely on the ground and can control the aircraft from anywhere in the world.
The unmanned fighter jet can also carry bombs and missiles and, if the trials prove successful, the MoD said it should "ultimately be capable of striking targets at long range, even in another continent."
The current generation of propeller-driven drones -- such as the Predator and Reaper -- are capable of carrying missiles, but these unmanned planes can only be used in areas where the military has air dominance, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
The first flight trials are due to start next year.
"Taranis is a truly trailblazing project," said Minister for International Security Strategy Gerald Howarth.
"The first of its kind in the UK, it reflects the best of our nation's advanced design and technology skills and is a leading programme on the global stage."
February 6th, 2011
Unmanned aircraft, and warfare in general, took a serious step forward Friday when the Navy’s X-47B Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle demonstrator took to the skies for the first time.
The stealthy jet flew in a circular pattern known as a racetrack with its landing gear down (standard for first flights) for 29 minutes at an altitude of 5,000 in the airspace around Edwards Air Force Base in California, by all accounts the flight was a success.
http://defensetech.org/2011/02/06/navys-x-47b-stealthy-combat-drone-makes-first-flight/