Examination Of Conscience

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that dosent make sense. if god says it is wrong to do something it cant be right sometimes. that isnt even logical


None of its logical. Not the bible not any of it. Its blind faith. Everyone believes differently and its your own person rules that you have to live by. My "commandment" Is "Do No Harm." I think it covers everything nicely :)
 

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In fact we ALL have the same golden rule if you look into it.............

http://www.loyno.edu/twomey/blueprint/vol_lv/No-06_Feb_2002.html
 

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None of its logical. Not the bible not any of it. Its blind faith. Everyone believes differently and its your own person rules that you have to live by. My "commandment" Is "Do No Harm." I think it covers everything nicely :)

I'm trying to understand you and I'm not being critical. :read2:

It would seem that without "Doing No Harm's" sister "Doing Good" there is no substance to the former. What I mean is if I see you starving and I do nothing, I am "Doing No Harm", and I'm still a righteous person by your rule, is that what you mean?

Consider. It would seem DNH is a rule for prevention but not a phrase that inspires action, nor a phrase that itself describes the completeness a just moral rule would require. But DG is a definite requirement. That is why the former seems missing something. DNH on it's own seems to connote isolationism, (egotism, antisocialism?), and seems to imply that one can live an entire life in isolation and ignore the plight of others.

Also, it should never be forgotten how we have benefitted from the DG's of the world, as we could not even survive without them from the moment of birth.

I can Accept the two in entirety, "Do No Harm and Do Good Always".

Sorry if this clutz doesn't get it. :grommit:

AndyF
 

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I'm trying to understand you and I'm not being critical. :read2:

It would seem that without "Doing No Harm's" sister "Doing Good" there is no substance to the former. What I mean is if I see you starving and I do nothing, I am "Doing No Harm", and I'm still a righteous person by your rule, is that what you mean?

Consider. It would seem DNH is a rule for prevention but not a phrase that inspires action, nor a phrase that itself describes the completeness a just moral rule would require. But DG is a definite requirement. That is why the former seems missing something. DNH on it's own seems to connote isolationism, (egotism, antisocialism?), and seems to imply that one can live an entire life in isolation and ignore the plight of others.

Also, it should never be forgotten how we have benefitted from the DG's of the world, as we could not even survive without them from the moment of birth.

I can Accept the two in entirety, "Do No Harm and Do Good Always".

Sorry if this clutz doesn't get it. :grommit:

AndyF


Your not a klutz your inqizative and thats always good. Like Maple always asking questions. :)

If you saw me hungry on the street is that doing no harm? If you have plenty and I have none is waklking away doing no harm? In my beliefs ignoring things I dont want to face IS doing harm. Not only to a person in need but to myself also. It is always in my best interest to help and be kind.
 

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Your not a klutz your inqizative and thats always good. Like Maple always asking questions. :)

If you saw me hungry on the street is that doing no harm? If you have plenty and I have none is waklking away doing no harm? In my beliefs ignoring things I dont want to face IS doing harm. Not only to a person in need but to myself also. It is always in my best interest to help and be kind.

OK, Thanx. I understand, that definitely includes a DG., ....great stuff.

AndyF
 

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Going back to the "thou shalt not kill" bit about it being strict. There must be something wrong with people that take the commandment to be without exceptions. When one washes their hands, one kills germs and bacteria. When one walks around on their lawn, they kill insects. When one takes food out of their garden, they kill carrots and whatnot.
 

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Thanks Self

LOL - I'm in the over the hill category girl - but thanks anyway!!

I just kinda liked Gilbert's "Carrots and Whatnot"....
 

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[1] I am the Lord your God. You shall not have strange gods before me. oops
Do I give God time every day in prayer? no
Do I seek to love Him with my whole heart? no
Have I been involved with superstitious practices or have I been involved with the occult? yes
Do I seek to surrender myself to God's Word as taught by the Church? no
Have I ever received Communion in a state of mortal sin? no
Have I ever deliberately told a lie in confession or have I withheld a mortal sin from the priest in confession? no
[2] You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. my god? nope
Have I used God's name in vain: lightly or carelessly? yes
Have I been angry with God? no
Have I wished evil upon another person? yes
Have I insulted a sacred person or abused a sacred object? no
[3] Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day. oops
Have I deliberately missed Mass on Sundays or Holy Days of Obligation? yes
Have I tried to observe Sunday as a family day and a day of rest? yes
Do I do needless work on Sunday? no
[4] Honour your Father and your Mother. no problem
Do I honour and obey my parents? yes
Have I neglected my duties to my spouse and children? no
Have I given my family good religious example? yes
Do I try to bring peace into my home life? yes
Do I care for my aged and infirm relatives? yes
[5] You shall not kill. ok
Have I had an abortion or encouraged anyone to have an abortion? no
Have I physically harmed anyone? yes
have I abused alcohol or drugs? yes
Did I give scandal to anyone, thereby leading them into sin? no
Have I been angry or resentful? yes
Have I harboured hatred in my heart? yes
Have I mutilated myself through any form of sterilization? no
Have I encouraged or condoned sterilization? no
[6] You shall not commit adultery. oops
Have I been faithful to my marriage vows in thought and action? n/a
Have I engaged in any sexual activity outside of marriage? yes
Have I used any method of contraception or artificial birth control in my marriage? my marriage? no, else always
Has each sexual act in my marriage been open to the transmission of new life? n/a
Have I been guilty of masturbation? yes
Have I sought to control my thoughts? yes
Have I respected all members of the opposite sex, or have I thought of other people as objects? yes and no
Have I been guilty of any homosexual activity? no
Do I seek to be chaste in my thoughts, words and actions? no
Am I careful to dress modestly? no
[7] You shall not steal. oops
Have I stolen what is not mine? yes
Have I returned or made restitution for what I have stolen? no
Do I waste time at work, school or at home? yes
Do I gamble excessively, thereby denying my family of their needs? no
Do I pay my debts promptly? yes
Do I seek to share what I have with the poor? yes
[8] You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. oops
Have I lied? yes
Have I gossiped? yes
Have I spoken behind someone else's back? yes
Am I sincere in my dealings with others? yes
Am I critical, negative or uncharitable in my thoughts of others? yes
Do I keep secret what should be kept confidential? yes
[9] You shall not desire your neighbour's wife. oops
Have I consented to impure thoughts? yes
Have I caused them by impure reading, movies, conversations or curiosity? yes
Do I seek to control my imagination? never
Do I pray at once to banish impure thoughts and temptations? no

[10] You shall not desire your neighbour's goods. ok
Am I jealous of what other people have? no
Do I envy the families or possessions of others? no
Am I greedy or selfish? sometimes
Are material possessions the purpose of my life? no
Do I trust that God will care for all of my material and spiritual needs? no

Doesn't really apply to non-Catholics let alone pagans. Maybe there should be a Catholic discussion sub forum.