Every Knee and Tongue

darkbeaver

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What does contemporary mean in the timeless void? I was saved by rediscovery of the laws of conservation of information. Some day we will have a great conversation in heaven. I will wait for you.
 

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I was saved by rediscovery of the laws of conservation of information. Some day we will have a great conversation in heaven. I will wait for you.

Saved from what? When? Please explain "rediscovery of the laws of conservation of information".

For me the kingdom of heaven has already come and I am currently engaged in a great conversation with you : )
 

darkbeaver

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Saved from what? When? Please explain "rediscovery of the laws of conservation of information".

For me the kingdom of heaven has already come and I am currently engaged in a great conversation with you : )

Saved from death by living death here in this valley of shadows. One of the things that troubled me, most of my previous life, was the waste of information gathered in life brought about by death. A while ago I become interested in the old philosophies. All my adult life I was an enemy of religion and never once bothered to look up the meaning of the word. When I did finally use dictionaries and got the word right in my head I started to laugh and haven't stopped since. I discovered that I was very religious, actually devote, a godwhack of the first order. It's hard to explain ones personal philosophy, religion, to another, hence the market for ready made. We all like to arrive at a comfortable picture of the power that builds and maintains things. The ready mades we're all hounded by every day in the modern media
are not suitable for minute to minute life. God is light, light carries information, information is AC, evrything we see and do and feel is remembered and processed upstream, adjustments are made in a blink, and our purpose in life is to labour through the hell of matter building the next best thing. These themes fill the Holy Bible. The zodiacs of today are ancient bibles These uranographs were written down after many thousands of years of progress orally, at the end, when all was fearful of oblivion they were chiseled in stone and they embedded in poetry and fairies tales. Religion is a very important subject and we are sorely misserved by the ready mades and drive ins, and take outs. thanks for the converse
 

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The keys are always left in the ignition waiting for you to crank the engine.The Lost Key to the Scriptures

Have you been able to locate any sources revealing the familial religious heritage of A. B. Kuhn, DB? His Wurrtemberg, German ancestry and Pennsylvanian birthplace and upbringing are published, but not his religious context.
 
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darkbeaver

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Have you been able to locate any sources revealing the familial religious heritage of A. B. Kuhn, DB? His Wurrtemberg, German ancestry and Pennsylvanian birthplace and upbringing are published, but not his religious context.

I never bothered to look but I did question his motive early on and found no reason to suspect him of anything other than his expressed interest in the science alone. The explaination of these mysteries of religions are as easily pertinent to one as to any other. I am very happy to have stumbled upon them. It's a beginning where before there was none a perspective from a position far better than was mine a while ago. Christ is food of the gods served in a manger to elevate the human animal. Any denominational connection to that? There is great conspiracy nevertheless but maybe not where you think, if you do think there might be.
 
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Motar

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I never bothered to look but I did question his motive early on and found no reason to suspect him of anything other than his expressed interest in the science alone. The explaination of these mysteries of religions are as easily pertinent to one as to any other. I am very happy to have stumbled upon them. It's a beginning where before there was none a perspective from a position far better than was mine a while ago. Christ is food of the gods served in a manger to elevate the human animal. Any denominational connection to that? There is great conspiracy nevertheless but maybe not where you think, if you do think there might be.

Pennsylvania German families of Kuhn's era (1880-1963) were Lutheran, Reformed or Anabaptist in religious affiliation, DB. Christ myth theory had its origins in 19th century Europe. It seems likely that Kuhn was influenced by both Protestant Lutheranism and Christian mythicism during his formative years. Interesting that both of these belief systems categorically refute the other.
 

darkbeaver

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Pennsylvania German families of Kuhn's era (1880-1963) were Lutheran, Reformed or Anabaptist in religious affiliation, DB. Christ myth theory had its origins in 19th century Europe. It seems likely that Kuhn was influenced by both Protestant Lutheranism and Christian mythicism during his formative years. Interesting that both of these belief systems categorically refute the other.

That is interesting. But rather than spend anytime on the various sects I will study as far back as is possible. They even got Christs birthdays wrong, both of them, as I understand. You must know they never intended for the masses to learn to read, in fact it was thought entirely impossible.
 

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That is interesting. But rather than spend anytime on the various sects I will study as far back as is possible. They even got Christs birthdays wrong, both of them, as I understand. You must know they never intended for the masses to learn to read, in fact it was thought entirely impossible.

Tell me more about "they", DB.
 

darkbeaver

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In the context of ancient Israel and idolatry, the following prediction is made:

"By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear." (Isaiah 45:23 NIV)

To whom does "every knee; every tongue" apply?


Back to your opening post, I think the declaration means none can escape the cycle of rebirth to spirit from the carnal man. Every soul has to complete the walk through the valley of the shadow of death, and there are no exceptions.
 

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Pennsylvania German families of Kuhn's era (1880-1963) were Lutheran, Reformed or Anabaptist in religious affiliation, DB. Christ myth theory had its origins in 19th century Europe. It seems likely that Kuhn was influenced by both Protestant Lutheranism and Christian mythicism during his formative years. Interesting that both of these belief systems categorically refute the other.

I have a FB friend who recently released his 3rd personal religious/spiritual book. His writings express bitter disappointment with his early conservative religious experiences and euphoric celebration of his recent liberal spiritual epiphanies. His motives may be cathartic or vengeful or evangelistic or otherwise. I don't know. Only omniscient beings can judge motives. He seems quite passionate though.

A. B. Kuhn was a prolific, self-published religious/spiritual author. I wonder what motivated him.
 
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Back to your opening post, I think the declaration means none can escape the cycle of rebirth to spirit from the carnal man. Every soul has to complete the walk through the valley of the shadow of death, and there are no exceptions.

Certainly every body is engaged from physical birth to physical death in a death march, DB. The Spirit of Christ however is present and active universally and eternally to revive and restore every receptive soul.

Perhaps, this explains how A . B. Kuhn discovered the Christ in eras and locales outside of ancient Israel.
 

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Perhaps, this explains how A . B. Kuhn discovered the Christ in eras and locales outside of ancient Israel.

The presence of Christ in the records of ancient and modern civilizations is confirmation, not refutation of the Christ of the Torah and New Testament, DB. As we have said, Christ is the universal and eternal Spirit, always and everywhere present and active. All historical records should reflect Christ, providing that historians are sensitive to such a Spirit.
 

darkbeaver

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Certainly every body is engaged from physical birth to physical death in a death march, DB. The Spirit of Christ however is present and active universally and eternally to revive and restore every receptive soul.

Perhaps, this explains how A . B. Kuhn discovered the Christ in eras and locales outside of ancient Israel.

Rediscovery of this force called Christ would have been much easier and earlier if the force call Christianity hadn't all but crushed the spirit in the dark times. There never was a meaty christ and there never was a material Israel.
 

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Rediscovery of this force called Christ would have been much easier and earlier if the force call Christianity hadn't all but crushed the spirit in the dark times. There never was a meaty christ and there never was a material Israel.

Tell me more about "this force called Christ", DB.
 

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Then there was Saul, moved to the head of the class despite all his best efforts to do just the opposite. Much like live in general.