English Debate Tonight

[the caracal kid]

I disagree, he is the ABSOLUTE WORST to ever be offered.

Look at his history, his past policies, etc. Even Preston Manning was less dangerous becuase he did not hide his position nor disguise himself to try and fool Canadianna into going down a route to being a fancy lapdog to the US. As much as there are good qualities about the US, this is not the US and I have no desire to become americian via Harpie's americian asperations. Further, any party pandering to religious groups is dangerous. Theocracies result in atrocities. Harpie and his love for stipping gays and women of equality should be enough to oppose him.

 

[Calberty]

"If Harpie won, i would have to seriously consider if it is time to move out of Canada."

You sure don't have much self confidence. You need to take a few deep breaths and get some perspective in life.

 

[the caracal kid]

its not self confidence, its a lack of confidence in the country and especially in an electorate that would fall for the cons of Harper and the CPC.

Marx said "the masses are asses". if the masses vote for harper, marx's statement will have been shown validity.

 

[Calberty]

Marx said lots of things. So did his counterpart, Groucho Marx.

Once you learn to be more self confident you'll learn that you don't need to govern your life by being a slave to the quippy quotes of gurus like Marx, Jesus or Captain Kirk.

 

[the caracal kid]

funny boy! my distaste for what happens to canada has nothing to do with self-confidence, i assure you. if anything it is my self confidence that allows me to say "hey, canada is not doing so well. i can go to a better location and start over." it is a lack of self confidence that keeps one imprisoned. it is self confidence that sets one free.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: English Debate Tonigh

Don't worry, Caracal. Harper isn't going to win the election and even if he did, he'd be powerless to do anything.

 

[missile]

If he did,he'd wind up doing the same political marriage deals that Martin had to do to stay in power for the short time he had. In other words..another election within 2 years! We may never see a majority government again in our times[unless Quebec does separate]

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: English Debate Tonigh

It's unlikely that he could make those deals and maintain his base, Missile. I wouldn't bet on him lasting a year.

 

[Ted]

Point by point, why does Harper make you guys pee in your pants?

I disagree with him as well on some issues, but scary? Run me out of the country?

Well, here's a scary thought: PM Harper representing Canadian interests, seated at the table with the likes of Cheney, Bush and Putin. That scares me shytless. He'd be so busy licking their boots (I could have been more blunt, lol) that we could kiss what is left of our sovereignty goodbye.

At least Paul Martin can hold his own in that kind of company and stand up to them, even if it is for show only. If Harper were PM, our reputation in the world would be severely damaged, even worse than it was when Mulroney was Prime Minister.

The only difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives is that the Liberals are selling our country off piece by piece behind our backs, and they deny it. The Conservatives would do it openly and try to convince us it is in our best interests. And I am sure that if by some bizarre turn of events the NDP got elected, all those lofty ideals would fly out the window and nothing would really change. It's all about obtaining power and maintaining it. They no longer serve the electorate. None of them.

 

[no1important]

RE: English Debate Tonigh

War of words continues after election debate

A teaser:

After squaring off on stage during Friday night's English-language debate, party leaders were back on the campaign trail Saturday. But the war of words was far from over.

"So did you like those debates?" Conservative Leader Stephen Harper asked a partisan crowd in Victoria, B.C. on Saturday.

Harper argued he made the case for change in Thursday's and Friday's debates, saying, "this election will be the end of a government plagued by scandal, failed expectations and broken promises.[/end of teaser]

Harper argued why we do not need a change from current situation.

 

[Breakthrough2006]

Well, here's a scary thought: PM Harper representing Canadian interests, seated at the table with the likes of Cheney, Bush and Putin. That scares me shytless. He'd be so busy licking their boots (I could have been more blunt, lol) that we could kiss what is left of our sovereignty goodbye.

Martin has done nothing to improve relations with the US and thus our beef industry and our soft wood lumber industry has suffered because of it. If Martin would back up his child like rhetoric, then even I would have to admit that he is standing up for Canada. On the contrary, his antics have cost us Billions of dollars in lost revenue and the fact that we refuses to fly the Canadian flag on his ships proves to me that he doesn't have Canadas interests in mind either.

Many here always talk about how the US is taking over Canada but the numbers prove otherwise. Canadian banks are well estabilished in the US, yet American banks are almost unheard of in Canada. All 3 American car manufactureres have invested tens of billions of dollars into our economy that provide thousands of Canadians with high paying jobs.

I find it ironic that the left is always complaining about NAFTA, yet the Liberals have had ample opportunity to get out of the agreement yet fail to do so knowing full well that NAFTA benefits both countries.

At least Paul Martin can hold his own in that kind of company and stand up to them, even if it is for show only.

He's NEVER in their company because he is a joke on the international stage. He is known as "MR. Dithers" internationaly.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Martin has done nothing to improve relations with the US and thus our beef industry and our soft wood lumber industry has suffered because of it.

Better check the Conservative record on BSE there, BT. Try Googling it along with Contempt of Parliament and then tell us the Conservatives would be any better than the Liberals.

Look into Stevie's idea on softwood while you're at it. We have an agreement. The Americans are refusing to follow it. Stevie's solution is to hire some more people to talk to the Americans. If Martin lacks balls, then Stevie lacks any sexual organs whatsoever.

Many here always talk about how the US is taking over Canada but the numbers prove otherwise.

No, they don't prove otherwise. You've cherry-picked a few "facts" that you think prove your point, but the truth is that Caanda's industry is being taken over by the US and Harper and Martin both think that's fine and dandy. It isn't.

I find it ironic that the left is always complaining about NAFTA, yet the Liberals have had ample opportunity to get out of the agreement yet fail to do so knowing full well that NAFTA benefits both countries.

If you consider the Liberals to be part of the left, especially under Martin, then you really haven't been following things, have you?

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[Jo Canadian]

You know there was something about Duceppe that was bugging me, but I couldn't really put my finger on it, then a caller from last nights Cross Country Checkup brought up a point that clarified the issue. It was something along the line that Duceppe is Governing a Region, not Federally...What's he doing in a federal election debate then when a multi-provincial party -The Greens- weren't able to partake in the Debate

Not that it was much of a debate though, it seems the only debating is taking place after the "debate".

 

[Reverend Blair]

It was something along the line that Duceppe is Governing a Region, not Federally...What's he doing in a federal election debate then when a multi-provincial party -The Greens- weren't able to partake in the Debate

While I agree that the Greens should be in the debates, Duceppe has as much right to be there as the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives. They are a predominantly western party. More than that, it they would have been excluded from participating when they were just a few guys from Alberta, they never would have grown to be a national party.

Even though the BQ has no intention of growing, excluding a party because they are "just regional" would make it impossible for most parties to grow.

 

[Colpy]

I do think that requiring a seat in the House of Commons is a reasonable restriction for inclusion in the debates. The thing would become incredibly confused with several more people on stage.

I suppose you could use a 5% rule, i.e. you get on if you had 5% of the vote last time. Would that include the Greens? I think so.

Point is, there has to be a line somewhere.

 

[Jo Canadian]

I certainly see your point. I do recall ol' Stockwell taking part in the debates a few years ago. I wonder then, with the selected exclusion of other potential parties, how the heck would you go about creating something new if you're not allowed to play the same game as the Big Boys?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: English Debate Tonigh

I think if you qualify for federal funding, then you deserve to be in the debates, Jo. I don't worry about there being too many people onstage. Maybe it would encourage them to go to a one-on-one round robin format.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Re: RE: English Debate Tonigh

I think if you qualify for federal funding, then you deserve to be in the debates, Jo. I don't worry about there being too many people onstage. Maybe it would encourage them to go to a one-on-one round robin format.

Personally I'd rather see the debates with all of them locked in the same room and forced to actually use unscripted answers to questions and of course have actual debate. Although that would probably make the debate look more like the Jerry Springer show, if that is the case you may have more people take interest in it, escpecilly the younger voters who usually would rather watch Dr Phil rather than the news.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: English Debate Tonigh

A round robin would be like the WWF though, Jo. I agree that they should be allowed no scripts or notes. They should also be forced to answer the questions asked, not go off on a tirade about something only partially related.